Khota Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It is very difficult to adjust the game at that level. French Open is a total nuisance because clay courts are a mess. It really slows down the power hitters as balls slow down. People who play on clay will always have more advantage. Spaniards also have opportunity to play on tha clay so they do well. Australian and US open are really about brute force and speeds. Totally different styley. Hardcourts are a totally different issue and they mess your body real bad. Ball comes real fast and court temps are out of control. Throw in the sun and some humidity you need a different type of athlete. 6 hours ago, mishra said: Exception cant be rule 5 hours ago, Gollum said: During Sampras' time variance from USO/AO/SW19 to RG was much much greater than what we have in cricket today. It was practically unheard of to have all court dominance in the 90s. But in cricket you have a few players who do well across conditions. Link to comment
Khota Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 4 hours ago, maniac said: Pakistan team did well in England last time and credit where due they were really prepared for that series....when even PCB gets it right over you than you have a massive problem. Hooefully we will learn from our mistakes from this tour. I expect Kohli to do real well this England series. Pakistan did well against a real pathetic English team. Link to comment
Khota Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Gollum said: During Sampras' time variance from USO/AO/SW19 to RG was much much greater than what we have in cricket today. It was practically unheard of to have all court dominance in the 90s. But in cricket you have a few players who do well across conditions. Surfaces are so different in tennis. Link to comment
maniac Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Khota said: Pakistan did well against a real pathetic English team. That is not the point...they prepared well for that tour. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Shy9 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Virat in his debut test series scored 75 in Westindies (2011) in 3 Test with high score of 25 than in his first series in eng,in 2014 he did slightly better with 145 in 3 Test with high score of 39 he shuts his critics with 6 scores of 150 plus as captain of India so I assumes he will scores heavily in July/ aug in England 5 innings out of 10 Of the series. Link to comment
MechEng Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 7 hours ago, express bowling said: McEnroe, no French , Australian Connors no French Borg no Australian , US Lendl no Wimbledon All considered as greats I do not follow tennis, but if I am not wrong I'm assuming McEnroe to be very good on grass courts. So McEnroe was like Dravid and relied more on timing the ball and Lendl relied more on raw strength being a champ on clay and hard courts. Link to comment
Khota Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, MechEng said: I do not follow tennis, but if I am not wrong I'm assuming McEnroe to be very good on grass courts. So McEnroe was like Dravid and relied more on timing the ball and Lendl relied more on raw strength being a champ on clay and hard courts. McEnroe had a very good net game. He could follow through on his serve and get to the net and backed with amazing reflexes. He was not a power player like Sampras or Courier who could grind it out from the baseline all day long. Grass courts allow you to charge to the net little bit better but not so much in US open. I dont follow tennis either anymore. No time. Edited January 23, 2018 by Khota Link to comment
mishra Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 12 hours ago, Khota said: It is very difficult to adjust the game at that level. French Open is a total nuisance because clay courts are a mess. It really slows down the power hitters as balls slow down. People who play on clay will always have more advantage. Spaniards also have opportunity to play on tha clay so they do well. Australian and US open are really about brute force and speeds. Totally different styley. Hardcourts are a totally different issue and they mess your body real bad. Ball comes real fast and court temps are out of control. Throw in the sun and some humidity you need a different type of athlete. Those greats have won things. Been best in world. What have Kohli won? Link to comment
adi B Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 22/01/2018 at 6:45 PM, Khota said: Holding please shut up. Let me ask him a simple question if a Tennis player wins all grand slams but not french is he a great player or not? Yup ,the great Pete sampras!! Khota 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 In ICF language, Holding can go eat a crow. Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 From the article Quote "Virat Kohli is a fantastic batsman. I was asked to name three top cricketers and I included Kohli in that list," Holding told the Mumbai Mirror. "He is a very, very good player. When I see him score runs in England, I would call him a great player. I like people who score runs everywhere. He is an extremely good player. "The three cricketers I think are the best now are Joe Root, Virat Kohli and Steve Smith. AB de Villiers has just come back into Test cricket and let's see how he does. I don't want to include him yet in that list." Can some of you guys stop whining for a change? Holding hasn't disrespected Kohli anywhere. Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 2:26 AM, express bowling said: Bowling average of 48 and SR of 112 was very pathetic in the 1970s and '80s One thing is ... one series is not sufficient to judge any player ... a bad habit creeps in and there is not sufficient time to rectify it, especially these days with packed schedules. The other thing is ... Holding just finds faults with Indians and is highly biased against us. how many matches they played there again ? And one of those series was pivotal in ICC even starting the discussion on neutral umpires, when the NZ umpires kept ruling not out to 1st slip catches. I agree with Holding. Virat is not a great till he can have atleast ONE successful series in England, provided he plays enough there. Ponting for eg, had atleast 1 decent series in India. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: how many matches they played there again ? And one of those series was pivotal in ICC even starting the discussion on neutral umpires, when the NZ umpires kept ruling not out to 1st slip catches. I agree with Holding. Virat is not a great till he can have atleast ONE successful series in England, provided he plays enough there. Ponting for eg, had atleast 1 decent series in India. Spot on. Glad that you mentioned, that was probably the most biased umpiring in a series. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Gollum said: From the article Can some of you guys stop whining for a change? Holding hasn't disrespected Kohli anywhere. May be you haven't watched his commentary. He's totally biased against Indians. May be we read between lines, but it's the posters' reaction to his outright bias. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 22/01/2018 at 10:14 AM, express bowling said: Ponting has a batting average of 26.5 in India. Lara has a batting average of 33 in India. Richards has a batting average of 19.3 in NZ. Root has a batting average of 17.6 in NZ and 24.5 in Bangladesh. Roberts has a bowling average of 65.3 in NZ. Greenidge has a batting average of 17.3 in Pakistan. Steve Waugh has a batting average of 16.6 in SL. etc. etc. What does Holding think about that ? Exactly someone send this to holding and tell him to stfu particularly nasty hate filled stuff by holding considering kohli just scored glorious 150 in last test in sa . pathetic from holding . Another Uncle Tom like bucknor Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: May be you haven't watched his commentary. He's totally biased against Indians. May be we read between lines, but it's the posters' reaction to his outright bias. I have called out his biased commentary many times on this forum, but he is getting unnecessary flak here, he hasn't disrespected Kohli at all. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Gollum said: I have called out his biased commentary many times on this forum, but he is getting unnecessary flak here, he hasn't disrespected Kohli at all. What he said was pathetic. So many great players have anomalies in record in one country or so . Express bowling summed it up ., so many greats not great if go by holding yardstick including Himslef sad Uncle Tom express bowling 1 Link to comment
goose Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Holding on commentary just now saying Kohli's demeanour reminds him of Viv Richards. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, goose said: Holding on commentary just now saying Kohli's demeanour reminds him of Viv Richards. Cos he made a twat of himself and knows it . Would never say such a thing against a gora bat as Uncle tom no doubt some used same yardstick against some of his former team mates and himself to show they also not greats then . So running for cover now . Twat Rightarmfast and The Dark Horse 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Never seen any English pitches where batting is this much harder in SA. adi B 1 Link to comment
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