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10 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

Very hard to put it in a detailed format like you did but I would say my perfect batsman would be a cross between SRT (completeness), Lara (long knocks, counterattack, placement), Kallis (solid defense, tremendous heart), Dravid (swing master, solid defence, tremendous heart) and Smith (clutch mindset, extreme hand eye coordination).

Counter attack, placement...interesting attributes for a batsman, have added them in my updated OP. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

How would you build a worst batsman

 

Defense - Rohit sharma

Off stump awareness - Rohit sharma

Footwork - Rohti sharma

 

:giggle:

Short ball play  - Raina

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

Very hard to put it in a detailed format like you did but I would say my perfect batsman would be a cross between SRT (completeness), Lara (long knocks, counterattack, placement), Kallis (solid defense, tremendous heart), Dravid (swing master, solid defence, tremendous heart) and Smith (clutch mindset, extreme hand eye coordination).

+ KP for pure ability to play fast bowling in hostile conditions.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, sandeep said:

Sachin Tendulkar from 2nd half of 1990s.   

 

/EndThread.

 

Technical proficiency.  Immaculate defense.  Ability and confidence to hit good balls for 4 in challenging conditions.  Handled Pace and spin alike.  Scored hundreds, every single series.   All over the world.    

 

Only flaw he had was that he would invariably get out after crossing 3 figures. i.e. rarely would he put up "daddy" hundreds.  

 

 

He is my favourite but you are overselling him. Perfection won't entail having such a poor 4th innings record and susceptibility to so many great bowlers like Mcgrath, Donald, Saqlain etc. He was technically infallible but mentally quite vulnerable. 

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Leaving.. G Boycott

Defence.. Kallis

Cover drive.. B Richards

Off Drive.. D Gower 

Straight drive.. S Tendulkar

Pull ..B Lara

Hook ..R Fredericks 

Inside out.. V Richards

Square cut..G Greenidge

Loft..V Richards

swag ..V Richards 

Bravery ..V Richards 

Back foot punch ..S Tendulkar

Ability to max talent ..S Smith 

Most around complete batsman ...V Kohli 

 

Posted
35 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Helicopter shot - DHoni :p:

Don't think a test batsman needs T20 dross :p:. Ramp shot, slogs, upper cut have become part of test cricket, helicopter may need more time. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Tattieboy said:

Leaving.. G Boycott

Defence.. Kallis

Cover drive.. B Richards

Off Drive.. D Gower 

Straight drive.. S Tendulkar

Pull ..B Lara

Hook ..R Fredericks 

Inside out.. V Richards

Square cut..G Greenidge

Loft..V Richards

swag ..V Richards 

Bravery ..V Richards 

Back foot punch ..S Tendulkar

Ability to max talent ..S Smith 

Most around complete batsman ...V Kohli 

 

Looks like you have watched cricket for quite some time :hatsoff:. Senior citizen?

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Roy fredericks? lol where did he come from. One one handed hook for six. he is suddenly the best hooker? Both Richards and Kapil Dev are significantly better hookers.  David gower is a flair player. Not much of  a foot work player. He just stands and creams the ball. Tendulkar's off drive is better. So is Brian Lara's.  Pull shot lot of Aussies are good at it. Damien Martyn,  Punter to name a few. Rahane is on his way to becoming a legendary puller alongwith Kohli. From India Dravid and Sachin. You look no further.

Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Counter attack, placement...interesting attributes for a batsman, have added them in my updated OP. 

When guys like Lara and Kohli get set, their placement ability takes a quantum leap. They can find gaps piercing fields in ways other bats can't.

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Strokes. Always one of my favorite subject in cricket. There used to be a brand of calypso cricket. You can still shades of it when Dwyane bravo plays. They play this cut shot in an unique fashion. Even lesser known players does that. Generally you don't see the ball after it leaves the bat.Greenidge, was ruthless with that shot.I only saw stuart williams at chennai live. He cut one of the ball. But just disappeared. Nobody moved. It just flew off the bat. I am not sure how many has seen Sehwag live. But i am sure ball would just  reach the boundary at knots speed from his bat. He had incredible bat speed.

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On an side. Ganguly in his prime was one of the most pleasing on the eye with his off drives. Gorgeous to watch.

 

Dravid right fully said. There is god and then there is Ganguly on the off side

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, sensible-indian said:

When guys like Lara and Kohli get set, their placement ability takes a quantum leap. They can find gaps piercing fields in ways other bats can't. 

 

Kohli is more like Lara than Tendulkar.

I wanted to put Kohli's name in placement ability but pulled out last moment and put Lara's name instead, created a new category (strike rotation) to put the brat's name. Warne rated Sachin and Lara as his toughest adversaries, in an old documentary I saw him explaining the strengths of the 2 titans against spin. Sachin apparently is very quick to judge the length by reading the trajectory when the ball leaves the bowler's hands, this way either he is fully committed on front foot or rocks back, no half measures. This is exactly the opposite of how Rahane plays spin :hysterical:. According to Warne Lara was not that good in judging the length and often made mistakes but he compensated because of his ability to pierce the gaps at will no matter how bad his body balance. For other batsmen playing in the air means giving catch practice but with Lara he played in the air in between 2 fielders close to each other, he always had a mental 2D picture of the field positions and forced himself to only play in the gaps (his own words). May be Kohli has that unique ability that makes maneuvring so easy for him. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Strokes. Always one of my favorite subject in cricket. There used to be a brand of calypso cricket. You can still shades of it when Dwyane bravo plays. They play this cut shot in an unique fashion. Even lesser known players does that. Generally you don't see the ball after it leaves the bat.Greenidge, was ruthless with that shot.I only saw stuart williams at chennai live. He cut one of the ball. But just disappeared. Nobody moved. It just flew off the bat. I am not sure how many has seen Sehwag live. But i am sure ball would just  reach the boundary at knots speed from his bat. He had incredible bat speed.

I have experienced that feeling in Eden, one Azhar flick to square leg boundary I can assure you not a soul in Eden saw that ball after he played that shot. Lightning quick wristy flick on a lightning quick outfield. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

@Tattieboy You must be the 2nd person after my dad who reckons Ponting isn't the greatest player of the hook shot. My dad says Kanhai, you say Fredericks :wp3:.

 Didn't see Kanhai play he was ending as I was starting . Fredericks just exited me seeing him playing it like nobody else .

What age is a senior citizen? :biggrin:

Posted
2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

I have experienced that feeling in Eden, one Azhar flick to square leg boundary I can assure you not a soul in Eden saw that ball after he played that shot. Lightning quick wristy flick on a lightning quick outfield. 

I saw Azhar too. He has one of the lightest bat. Whenever he hits the ball it makes a different sound like bat is about to break. It is that light. He hit a six over deep midwicket. It was so fluent.

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