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3rd odi, India Vs England on 17 July 2018, Headingley, Leeds,


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Just now, RAZPOR said:

Arey dk needs a few more opportunities and at no 5 not no 4 ,Rahul needs to given a run at 3 . Pant and Kishan should be given opportunity ,forget about it ,when even Rahul is getting dropped after every single failure,this team is turning toxic even to watch

Kohli ne jahgir banake ke rakh diya hai, Dhoni being the TT guard.

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3 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

 Misbah was no great ODI bat but I feel people compare him to current Dhoni without taking context into the equation.


Whenever Misbah used to come to the crease, the scorecard would be 20-3 or 30-3 with brainless middle order batsmen like Akmal, Maqsood, etc.

  

Moreover, in Misbah's period, pitches wasn't this bad (post 2015 WC, pitches world over have become even worse). Plus Pakistan could defend 250 score because they had 3 spinners (Ajmal, Hafeez, Afridi - albeit 2 of them chuckers) and a couple of pacers doing well. So Misbah's slow approach wasn't as hopeless as Dhoni's approach.

  

 This isn't to say Misbah would have scored at 90 SR had Pakistan had better batters but atleast for his time, his approach wasn't as hopelessly bad as Dhoni's is for India in recent times.

 

I agree, but what it did was it created an environment where it was okay to defend every ball and take a super cautious approach approach where the team score would be 20 runs in 10 overs with no wickets. Then they would try to force hit and the score would be 30-3......then Misbah would come in with his slow approach....

Atleast Indian openers still play there natural game and can score 100 in 20 overs easily until dhoni comes in. To be honest Dhoni should be coming in lower in the order.

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6 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Can't hack it on tough pitches. This is not ipl. He struggled on patta against wi :facepalm:

he has potential and is very young. No point going with guys who are only gonna get worse. And it's not like Dhoni was ever good on tough pitches. Not even at his peak.

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Just now, Pak_cric said:

I agree, but what it did was it created an environment where it was okay to defend every ball and take a super cautious approach approach where the team score would be 20 runs in 10 overs with no wickets. Then they would try to force hit and the score would be 30-3......then Misbah would come in with his slow approach....

Atleast Indian openers still play there natural game and can score 100 in 20 overs easily until dhoni comes in. To be honest Dhoni should be coming in lower in the order.

Yes but I think it was more due to inability.

 

Ahmed Shehzad, Hafeez and Azhar Ali...what more can you expect from them.

 

Atleast Hafeez can bash minnows well but the other 2 were just hopeless (barring the SA series where Shehzad played a good role).

 

Misbah as a captain could have done a LOT more by trying a few other players.

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7 minutes ago, RAZPOR said:

Arey dk needs a few more opportunities and at no 5 not no 4 ,Rahul needs to given a run at 3 . Pant and Kishan should be given opportunity ,forget about it ,when even Rahul is getting dropped after every single failure,this team is turning toxic even to watch

What has DK ever done in international ODI's to justify his selection? Even in his comeback year of 2017, DK has a strike rate of 70 . That is very poor. Pant is the future and it is to embrace that.

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