Tibarn Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Kohli is doing a great job, hopefully he remains captain until he retires or becomes a scrub. Sgattick10, Switchblade and raki05 3 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Pataudi was one of the best we had tactically. He was brilliant even though he captained us against the best of teams in spite of not having many good players. Kapil Dev and even Sunny too were better than him because even with limited resources those days they didn't look as helpless like we saw yesterday. And we were minnows then, yet they were tactically shrewd. Sadly the resources were limited and there was no SL, Bangladesh, Kenya, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe etc to get easy wins. Even Pak was much better then than it is now. Ti e will tell whether he is better than Ganguly ,Dravid ,Sachin,Azhar and Dhoni as captain. For now imo Virat is only better than Wadekar, Bedi, and Venkatraghavan , though not in all aspects. Sgattick10 and UrmiSinhaRay 2 Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Kohli makes odd decisions that no one can ever explain.Remember the Bengaluru test against Australia , when we desperately needed to win and he didn't bowl Jadeja for the whole morning session. And then Jadeja came on ripped through them and took 5 fer. Luckily didn't cost us that game.Same last week we he suddenly took off Ashwin despite a left hander at the crease . Cost us the first test .Kohli is not a tactical captain, he is more like lead from the from like Ponting . But the difference is Ponting had the likes of Hayden Warne Gilcrist Langer McGrath who are strong personalities in the dressing room and could challenge or advice him when things go wrong.No one else in the side secure enough about their spot to challenge his decisions in the dressing room. Only solution is appointing a tactically strong coach but we have Yes man Shastri.Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk prasen82, Ankit_sharma03, zen and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment
Gollum Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Straight Drive said: Pataudi was one of the best we had tactically. He was brilliant even though he captained us against the best of teams in spite of not having many good players. Kapil Dev and even Sunny too were better than him because even with limited resources those days they didn't look as helpless like we saw yesterday. And we were minnows then, yet they were tactically shrewd. Sadly the resources were limited and there was no SL, Bangladesh, Kenya, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe etc to get easy wins. Even Pak was much better then than it is now. Ti e will tell whether he is better than Ganguly ,Dravid ,Sachin,Azhar and Dhoni as captain. For now imo Virat is only better than Wadekar, Bedi, and Venkatraghavan , though not in all aspects. Wadekar won in WI and Eng in 1971...our 1st overseas wins. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gollum said: Wadekar won in WI and Eng in 1971...our 1st overseas wins. More than Wadekar's captaincy, it was Sunny as well as spinners performances which won us the series. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: More than Wadekar's captaincy, it was Sunny as well as spinners performances which won us the series. That may well apply to all our wins then. Captains should get credit for successful tours just like how they get flak when we lose. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 10 hours ago, sage said: I only mentioned Rohit at the end. Rest of the post was about Kohli My apologies maniac but you wanting Rohit in place of Dhawan was hilarious. Link to comment
Adi BB Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Kohli on field is still a good captain in tests and perfect to lead the side especially the growth of fast bowlers under him has been terrific .it's the off field antics and idiocy that has resulted in defeats after defeats and he still ain't able to find out the reason and take the onus on himself,he's still clueless ! Link to comment
Adi BB Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, BeautifulGame said: Kohli makes odd decisions that no one can ever explain. Remember the Bengaluru test against Australia , when we desperately needed to win and he didn't bowl Jadeja for the whole morning session. And then Jadeja came on ripped through them and took 5 fer. Luckily didn't cost us that game. Same last week we he suddenly took off Ashwin despite a left hander at the crease . Cost us the first test . Kohli is not a tactical captain, he is more like lead from the from like Ponting . But the difference is Ponting had the likes of Hayden Warne Gilcrist Langer McGrath who are strong personalities in the dressing room and could challenge or advice him when things go wrong. No one else in the side secure enough about their spot to challenge his decisions in the dressing room. Only solution is appointing a tactically strong coach but we have Yes man Shastri. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk True Link to comment
Moochad Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 then who should be captain? UrmiSinhaRay and prasen82 1 1 Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I always see this pop up. Who do you think is a potential candidate that will do better than Kohli? I am in no means defending him here but who exactly looks like a captain material and can perform at the same time to keep his spot in the playing 11? It's not like We can get back the OLD Dhoni or OLD Ganguly. Those guys were proper captains, not this hot headed i'm too cool fella... UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Rahane Or Pujara. I will opt for Rahane as captain and Pujara as VC Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, mishra said: Rahane Or Pujara. I will opt for Rahane as captain and Pujara as VC Bhai dono run to bana nahi rahe tum unhe Captain banaoge? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Switchblade said: Bhai dono run to bana nahi rahe tum unhe Captain banaoge? Bith have pottetial to stay in test side for long. I believe kohlis chopping attitude is root cause of their failure. Rohit ji is waiting for Rahane and Rahul/Dhawan for Pujara UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Moochad said: then who should be captain? Ashwin can be the captain with Virat as Vice-Captain. UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 2 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, mishra said: Bith have pottetial to stay in test side for long. I believe kohlis chopping attitude is root cause of their failure. Rohit ji is waiting for Rahane and Rahul/Dhawan for Pujara Ashwin bhi hai waise to baki dono ki batting to bad to worse ho gai hai Link to comment
mishra Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Adi_91 said: Ashwin can be the captain with Virat as Vice-Captain. Virat will drop Ashwin or throw his toys. Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, mishra said: Virat will drop Ashwin or throw his toys. And that is the problem. This captain needs to be curbed first. One way is to tell him that he cannot be the captain. UrmiSinhaRay, Switchblade and mishra 1 2 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Adi_91 said: And that is the problem. This captain needs to be curbed first. One way is to tell him that he cannot be the captain. Remember MSD and Umesh had issues. But when Kohli selected Umesh when he became captain, MSD was unfazed, allthough i remember Umesh making some public antics, but MSD seemed to have been indiffetent to it. Thats quality of MSD, why we won a world cup under MSD. Leading a team of legends and still garnering respect is no joke. Kohli need to learn this basic thing from MSD or players of past. Remind himself everyday, he is representing India Edited August 12, 2018 by mishra BeautifulGame, Switchblade, Shunya and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, mishra said: Remember MSD and Umesh had issues. But when Kohli selected Umesh when he became captain, MSD was unfazed, allthough i remember Umesh making some public antics, but MSD seemed to have been indiffetent to it. Thats quality of MSD, why we won a world cup under MSD. Leading a team of legends and still garnering respect is no joke. Kohli need to learn this basic thing from MSD or players of past. Remind himself everyday, he is representing India Obviously Virat’s captaincy has issues. Now Kumble should be quietly happy looking at things. Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
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