rkt.india Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Global.Baba said: What is your take on Pandya at this stage of his career. 2 years in. Would we be better playing a full time seamer like Chahar or Thakur with some batting ability. They both can slog and Thakur looks innocuous but whenever he has played has shown the ability to pick up wickets by fluke nevertheless and is not too bad at the death. Chahar not counting IPL is apparently a big hitter and can be useful in swinging conditions. Pandya should bat higher and learn to take more responsibility or we need a proper batsman who can bowl. Maybe treat Sundar or Krunal as proper batsman and hope they can get in some overs. Sundar has shown some ability. Pandya is becoming too hit or miss these days. Sundar is a proper batsman in the first place who has been treated as a bowler unfairly. Link to comment
Popular Post Rightarmfast Posted July 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2018 My 2 pence. These problems will keep happening. Not because we do not have talent in India. But because the power is concentrated too much with a few people. Sadly for Indian cricket, these people have always abused the power. Indian cricket team loses not lose because they are bad, but because of design. Kohli and Dhoni will not let proper talent come in. Even after the U19 win, Kohli had specifically made a comment that its going to take 3-4 yrs for the young talents to be considered. In hindsight, Kohli wants to hang on to his supremacy and not let any champion player come in and question his dominance. He has always anyway been a selfish, rude person. Why do we think he has changed? He hasnt, its just a PR stunt. So what's going to happen is, by the time all these young batsmen and the genuine quicks are brought in, they would have lost their steam already. And if we think that the Indian team is going to regroup and try to make changes, we are fooling ourselves. I have seen enough of Indian cricket. About 30+ odd years to understand that no change is going to happen. They are going to bully a weaker team sometime in near future and all will be forgotten! Sgattick10, UrmiSinhaRay, Lannister and 7 others 1 2 7 Link to comment
adi B Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 It was embarrassing to see this trundlers brigade of kaul ,shardul,pandya,bhuvi bowling pies at 130ks UrmiSinhaRay and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Selection cost us CT 17. Selection cost us SA test series. Selection cost us England ODI series. What's new. UrmiSinhaRay, Rightarmfast, Sgattick10 and 5 others 2 2 4 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 hours ago, express bowling said: Ideally, I would try the group below as specialist pacers in ODIs. Bumrah, Bhuvi, Shami, Rajpoot, Khaleel and Prasidh. ( But Shami's fitness to play ODIs regularly in not known. ) Rotate the group with so many matches going on. We would like to find a partner for Bumrah who has the potential to take wickets upfront as well as bowl at the death while maintaining decent ER ... One of Rajpoot, Khaleel or Prasidh may provide the answer. Sirji ekdum sahi,a wicket taking partner of Bumrah is the answer,Khaleel and Prasidh can do that,and Rajpoot can be one hell of a first change bowler .We are actually few changes away from making it a most formidable bowling attack,but some selfish vested interest wont let it happen..i fully echo your thoughts Rightarmfast, express bowling, Lannister and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: My 2 pence. These problems will keep happening. Not because we do not have talent in India. But because the power is concentrated too much with a few people. Sadly for Indian cricket, these people have always abused the power. Indian cricket team loses not lose because they are bad, but because of design. Kohli and Dhoni will not let proper talent come in. Even after the U19 win, Kohli had specifically made a comment that its going to take 3-4 yrs for the young talents to be considered. In hindsight, Kohli wants to hang on to his supremacy and not let any champion player come in and question his dominance. He has always anyway been a selfish, rude person. Why do we think he has changed? He hasnt, its just a PR stunt. So what's going to happen is, by the time all these young batsmen and the genuine quicks are brought in, they would have lost their steam already. And if we think that the Indian team is going to regroup and try to make changes, we are fooling ourselves. I have seen enough of Indian cricket. About 30+ odd years to understand that no change is going to happen. They are going to bully a weaker team sometime in near future and all will be forgotten! Pretty much. The Axis of Evil along along with their 2 stooges (Rohit and Dhawan) run Indian cricket as their fiefdom. No one else will be allowed to settle into the side. They will get away with pretty much everything as most other teams have major problems of their own and we'd manage to win at least 60% of our games in spite of all the glaring weaknesses in the side. Edited July 18, 2018 by Jimmy Cliff UrmiSinhaRay, Rightarmfast and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, dandaroy said: I keep hearing about these phaaasshhttt bowlers, where the Phuck are they? The phaaaaaassstttt bowlers are there in the large but first they have to grind themselves in the domestics like a majdoor for 4-5 years ,once they become malnourished then they qualify to represent the ...........A team...what did you think,senior team?nah ,thats just too far Edited July 18, 2018 by Suhaan Mosher, Rightarmfast, Jimmy Cliff and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Global.Baba said: What is your take on Pandya at this stage of his career. 2 years in. Would we be better playing a full time seamer like Chahar or Thakur with some batting ability. They both can slog and Thakur looks innocuous but whenever he has played has shown the ability to pick up wickets by fluke nevertheless and is not too bad at the death. Chahar not counting IPL is apparently a big hitter and can be useful in swinging conditions. Pandya should bat higher and learn to take more responsibility or we need a proper batsman who can bowl. Maybe treat Sundar or Krunal as proper batsman and hope they can get in some overs. Sundar has shown some ability. Pandya is becoming too hit or miss these days. Pandya's consistency with the bat needs to improve and I like the idea of trying him up the order at 5 or 6. Trying Sundar or Krunal in the top 7 should have been done earlier. I am not sure about Chahar or Thakur's batting abilities at No.7. But, if they have the ability, it would definitely strengthen our bowling. Suhaan and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Global.Baba said: What is your take on Pandya at this stage of his career. 2 years in. Would we be better playing a full time seamer like Chahar or Thakur with some batting ability. They both can slog and Thakur looks innocuous but whenever he has played has shown the ability to pick up wickets by fluke nevertheless and is not too bad at the death. Chahar not counting IPL is apparently a big hitter and can be useful in swinging conditions. Pandya should bat higher and learn to take more responsibility or we need a proper batsman who can bowl. Maybe treat Sundar or Krunal as proper batsman and hope they can get in some overs. Sundar has shown some ability. Pandya is becoming too hit or miss these days. do you know many players who have done better at #7, not one-two innings but for a longer period. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 our ODI bowling squad should be Bumrah Rajpoot Mavi Khaleel Prasidh Sgattick10 and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I dont like Pandya as our 3rd seamer. Stokes isnt England's third seamer. He should be batting at 6 and playing as 6th bowler or fourth seamer. Sec19, UrmiSinhaRay and SK_IH 1 2 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I dont like Pandya as our 3rd seamer. Stokes isnt England's third seamer. He should be batting at 6 and playing as 6th bowler or fourth seamer. or may even 5 in terms of batting, he showed against aus last year he can play as a proper bat, these were the kinds of things kohli should have experimented in this tour instead he played raina for his bowling UrmiSinhaRay and Sec19 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 57 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I dont like Pandya as our 3rd seamer. Stokes isnt England's third seamer. He should be batting at 6 and playing as 6th bowler or fourth seamer. then ull have to drop a spinner . Whom will u drop??? 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: our ODI bowling squad should be Bumrah Rajpoot Mavi Khaleel Prasidh will u throw Mavi at this stage - When rules have become so harsh for bowlers n Wc is an year away.......... Prasisdh went for runs on A-tour- again will u throw in someone so early at such critical stage This makes Bumrah the senior most bowler n he still is in his 2nd -3rd yr , wudnt that be to much pressure on him. Without an experienced bowling coach he almost becomes a mentor which right now is still shared among him n bhuvi UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: then ull have to drop a spinner . Whom will u drop??? will u throw Mavi at this stage - When rules have become so harsh for bowlers n Wc is an year away.......... Prasisdh went for runs on A-tour- again will u throw in someone so early at such critical stage This makes Bumrah the senior most bowler n he still is in his 2nd -3rd yr , wudnt that be to much pressure on him. Without an experienced bowling coach he almost becomes a mentor which right now is still shared among him n bhuvi Why not drop Pandya? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, sensible-indian said: Why not drop Pandya? Then start looking for power hitter lower down the order ( he alone commands a place on that ability) Seaming all rounder who can bowl about 140k We all remeber life without pandya Sec19 and adi B 2 Link to comment
Sec19 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Mavi n Nagarkotti shld be given chances.They are great fielders and can contibute with the bat.Plunket may not be eng best no 3 bowler but is selected bcos of his all round skills.Nagarkotti or Mavi shld be groomed.Yuvraj too was picked just after the u19 wc without any major domestic experience and he served us for long.Same too for Nagarkotti n Mavi. UrmiSinhaRay and RAZPOR 1 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Then start looking for power hitter lower down the order ( he alone commands a place on that ability) Seaming all rounder who can bowl about 140k We all remeber life without pandya Yes, i remember. We won a WC and a CT. Haha Anyways, I am not saying we permanently drop him but we should look at various options. There is no hard and fast rule that we need an AR. Pandya needs to be more consistent. Thats for sure. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Krunal should be tried too. UrmiSinhaRay and RAZPOR 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: then ull have to drop a spinner . Whom will u drop??? will u throw Mavi at this stage - When rules have become so harsh for bowlers n Wc is an year away.......... Prasisdh went for runs on A-tour- again will u throw in someone so early at such critical stage This makes Bumrah the senior most bowler n he still is in his 2nd -3rd yr , wudnt that be to much pressure on him. Without an experienced bowling coach he almost becomes a mentor which right now is still shared among him n bhuvi There are no other bowlers so you will have take punt on youngsters. BK is serving no purposes at the moment. Bumrah, Rajpoot, Khaleel can be two front line bowlers and rotated with Mavi and Prasidh. Mavi has shown good temperament. I dont t think he will get a more difficult test than IPL anywhere. Even international cricket is less testing than IPL for young fast bowlers on dead pitches and small grounds. Rightarmfast and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: then ull have to drop a spinner . Whom will u drop??? Anyone can be dropped. None of the two is indispensable. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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