R!TTER Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) England have named Adil Rashid as their lone spinner for the first Test against India, which begins on Wednesday at Edgbaston. It will be his first Test since the fifth Test against India in Chennai in December 2016. England: 1 Alastair Cook, 2 Keaton Jennings, 3 Joe Root (capt), 4 Dawid Malan, 5 Jonny Bairstow (wk), 6 Ben Stokes, 7 Jos Buttler, 8 Adil Rashid, 9 Sam Curran, 10 Stuart Broad, 11 James Anderson. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/preview/1119549/england-vs-india-1st-test-ind-eng-2018 Edited July 31, 2018 by R!TTER UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Looks like a ploy to strengthen batting UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Looks like England have finally realized that Moeen Ali is not a front-line spinner, but more of a batsman who bowls decent. With Buttler, Stokes and Bairstow lengthening the batting line-up, they don't need his batting as much, and went with the spinner that gives them a better chance of picking up wickets. express bowling and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, sandeep said: Looks like England have finally realized that Moeen Ali is not a front-line spinner, but more of a batsman who bowls decent. With Buttler, Stokes and Bairstow lengthening the batting line-up, they don't need his batting as much, and went with the spinner that gives them a better chance of picking up wickets. Except Moen has easily outbowled Rashid, in Engalnd. Looking at that lineup I'd be tempted to bowl Kuldeep instead of Ashwin, play Pandya as the sole A/R with 3 main seamers. But knowing Kohli, he'll take the safer route and play Ashwin for his batting. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Follow the home team's strategy because they know their conditions better than us. Play 1 spinner. In fact that is what we have to do whole series since they almost always announce their XI 1 day in advance...if 2 spinners, that may be because they expect pitch to turn, if 4 quicks there won't be much purchase for spinners, so on and so forth. Here we need to go with Pandya, Kuldeep, Shami, Umesh and Ishant. Edited July 31, 2018 by Gollum philcric, Lannister, UrmiSinhaRay and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment
Moochad Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 why is the team announced right now? shouldn't they wait till the hours b/f the match? Our batsmen have been owned by Moen twice now, so I don't mind if he doesn't play Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Also have to keep in mind that English management will be privy to some extra info that the home curators may not share with the Indian counterparts. Based on my experience home teams hardly ever bungle up team selection, all the * ups are done by visiting teams and that is another reason why away record is so poor for all countries. I remember making this point on this very forum before the Adelaide test in 2014. There also they announced the team in advance and Kohli went in with the mediocre Karn Sharma who got smashed to bits. Coming into that series I remember whispers of Lyon about to be axed after his horror UAE tour...he was literally on his last lifeline then. So when I saw his name announced I said we need to play Ashwin because them Aussies aren't fools to pick an under fire, demoralized and struggling offie. Well we saw what happened there, by day 3 a huge rough started developing which offies could target....Karn couldn't bowl there because that was too wide for a leggie. Ashwin came back for the last 3 tests and outbowled Lyon....I am sure he would have made an impact with both bat and ball in Adelaide. His client Warner scored twin 100s in Adelaide and then got dismissed by Ashwin 4 times in the next 3 tests !!! Even there we had the moron Shastribot as coach, Cool was also on that tour and probably had his mindless inputs. Edited July 31, 2018 by Gollum philcric, UrmiSinhaRay and Lannister 1 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Kohli will surely.not play Rahul(it has become laughable now), Ashwin will play ( for his huge experience) Who are the pacers tommorow??(quite easy to predict) +Pandya UrmiSinhaRay and RAZPOR 1 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 49 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Except Moen has easily outbowled Rashid, in Engalnd. Looking at that lineup I'd be tempted to bowl Kuldeep instead of Ashwin, play Pandya as the sole A/R with 3 main seamers. But knowing Kohli, he'll take the safer route and play Ashwin for his batting. I think you are reading too much into Ali's past stats. He's plateaued badly as a bowler in the last couple of years. Rashid has always been a spin version of Umesh Yadav, a bit of a runs leaker, but still comes up with wicket taking deliveries. He needs to be handled right by England, and he really hasn't. The new England Selector is making a lot of right moves for them - I had been talking about making Buttler an all-format player, Bairstow a LOI regular, and building Rashid's confidence for more than a year now. They are now doing all 3. Good signs for England. But they still have a weak pace attack, and a fragile batting line-up up top. I just pray that India's bowling is consistent enough with their executions to keep the game alive. The absolute nightmare scenario is some early slip drops, and inconsistent bowling that allows them to get away to a 400 in T1. It could cost us the series. Goddam I miss Bhuvi. And btw, I don't want Pandya in the XI in T1 - He weakens the bowling too much - he's a support bowler who can get lucky - in tests right now. And I expect India to be sub-par with the bat in T1, it is absolutely crucial that the bowlers don't concede too big a lead here. No room for luxury passenger picks in the bowling unit. We can gamble on Pandya in one of the later tests with less bowling friendly conditions. UrmiSinhaRay and Samcric 1 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Gollum said: Also have to keep in mind that English management will be privy to some extra info that the home curators may not share with the Indian counterparts. Based on my experience home teams hardly ever bungle up team selection, all the * ups are done by visiting teams and that is another reason why away record is so poor for all countries. I remember making this point on this very forum before the Adelaide test in 2014. There also they announced the team in advance and Kohli went in with the mediocre Karn Sharma who got smashed to bits. Coming into that series I remember whispers of Lyon about to be axed after his horror UAE tour...he was literally on his last lifeline then. So when I saw his name announced I said we need to play Ashwin because them Aussies aren't fools to pick an under fire, demoralized and struggling offie. Well we saw what happened there, by day 3 a huge rough started developing which offies could target....Karn couldn't bowl there because that was too wide for a leggie. Ashwin came back for the last 3 tests and outbowled Lyon....I am sure he would have made an impact with both bat and ball in Adelaide. His client Warner scored twin 100s in Adelaide and then got dismissed by Ashwin 4 times in the next 3 tests !!! Even there we had the moron Shastribot as coach, Cool was also on that tour and probably had his mindless inputs. Well said. Judging by the English bowling selection, the pitch is likely to help medium pace seam/swing quite a bit, and not the genuinely quick. A Bhuvi or a Philander in the opposition, and the pommies wouldn't have prepped a track like this. Lets just pray that Ishant, Umesh and Shami can get their line and lengths right quickly and keep them there. Edited July 31, 2018 by sandeep Gollum and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
UrmiSinhaRay Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Also have to keep in mind that English management will be privy to some extra info that the home curators may not share with the Indian counterparts. Based on my experience home teams hardly ever bungle up team selection, all the * ups are done by visiting teams and that is another reason why away record is so poor for all countries. I remember making this point on this very forum before the Adelaide test in 2014. There also they announced the team in advance and Kohli went in with the mediocre Karn Sharma who got smashed to bits. Coming into that series I remember whispers of Lyon about to be axed after his horror UAE tour...he was literally on his last lifeline then. So when I saw his name announced I said we need to play Ashwin because them Aussies aren't fools to pick an under fire, demoralized and struggling offie. Well we saw what happened there, by day 3 a huge rough started developing which offies could target....Karn couldn't bowl there because that was too wide for a leggie. Ashwin came back for the last 3 tests and outbowled Lyon....I am sure he would have made an impact with both bat and ball in Adelaide. His client Warner scored twin 100s in Adelaide and then got dismissed by Ashwin 4 times in the next 3 tests !!! Even there we had the moron Shastribot as coach, Cool was also on that tour and probably had his mindless inputs. They lost the series no? Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: They lost the series no? Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk So? It isn't about winning or losing, it is about putting your best foot forward and maximizing your chances. We failed in doing that which is worthy of contempt. Edited July 31, 2018 by Gollum UrmiSinhaRay and sandeep 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hope they don't throw their wickets away to this mediocre bowler. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Chandan Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, Gollum said: So? It isn't about winning or losing, it is about putting your best foot forward and maximizing your chances. We failed in doing that which is worthy of contempt. The same things had happened in SA too. Selection botch-ups!! UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
adi B Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Hope they don't throw their wickets away to this mediocre bowler. We will ! UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Boycott is not having a bar of it. “It makes him look like a spoilt brat,” he wrote. “Not only has he put two fingers up to Yorkshire by not playing four-day cricket, Adil is now not available for Yorkshire’s Twenty20 matches. He still doesn’t get it that he won’t play for Yorkshire but will play for England and thinks Yorkshire should be thrilled for him.”“If he trashes me, like he trashed Vaughan, so be it but our cricketing public know which guys have played well for England and so far Rashid isn’t one of them.” https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/uk-view-geoffrey-boycott-slams-spoilt-brat-adil-rashid/news-story/81ce1654c2e2ca069a0a6aef64b20b90 UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
PSB_Zone Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 left handers in top 6 for england..Surely Ashwin will play. No chance for Jadega now even with 2 spinners playing UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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