India currently has best bowling line up in world

[Rightarmfast]

16 minutes ago, Clarke said:

The question marks continue .. selection is one issue but performances can be questionable as well.

 

I would back Steyn-Rabada-Ndigi-Philander to bowl Aus out here in a day.

Surely, a bowling unit is allowed to have an off day once in a while. I rate Steyn and Rabad, but the other 2 are ok ok. But I think its too early to judge Indian bowling based on one inning. 

Also, it seems to me that the whole Indian team, including the coach has made a mistake reading the pitch. 

[Trichromatic]

Another successful year for bowlers proving their worth despite playing most games away from home

Overall figures

Team	Players	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
South Africa	17	10	101	1402.1	315	4285	186	9/129	12/283	23.03	3.05	45.2	10	3
India	24	14	134	2130.2	418	6220	257	6/33	10/133	24.20	2.91	49.7	9	1
Pakistan	21	9	90	1402.4	330	3766	155	8/41	14/184	24.29	2.68	54.2	9	2
West Indies	16	9	86	1111.2	175	3691	143	8/62	13/121	25.81	3.32	46.6	8	2
Bangladesh	26	8	79	1200.3	215	3625	136	7/58	12/117	26.65	3.01	52.9	10	2
New Zealand	14	7	64	1202.5	292	3170	113	6/30	9/99	28.05	2.63	63.8	5	0
England	24	13	134	2017.4	387	6143	213	6/54	9/43	28.84	3.04	56.8	5	0
Sri Lanka	21	12	115	1867.2	289	6046	197	6/32	10/78	30.69	3.23	56.8	9	1
Zimbabwe	12	2	24	328.1	57	1020	32	5/71	7/98	31.87	3.10	61.5	1	0
Australia	21	10	107	1925.3	392	5628	172	6/27	9/99	32.72	2.92	67.1	5	0
Ireland	11	1	10	141.0	24	459	13	4/45	6/100	35.30	3.25	65.0	0	0
Afghanistan	11	1	6	104.5	15	461	9	3/51	3/51	51.22	4.39	69.8	0	0

 

 

Numbers for 2017 - shows how much team has improved this year

Overall figures

Team	Players	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
South Africa	20	12	110	1542.3	330	4953	215	6/40	10/63	23.03	3.21	43.0	7	2
India	19	11	105	1859.4	405	5318	200	6/41	9/178	26.59	2.85	55.7	5	0
Australia	19	11	97	1809.2	376	5079	185	8/50	13/154	27.45	2.80	58.6	10	2
New Zealand	16	7	66	1105.0	249	3406	116	7/39	9/141	29.36	3.08	57.1	2	0
Pakistan	18	6	61	1134.2	230	3279	109	7/94	9/177	30.08	2.89	62.4	7	0
England	20	11	122	1856.5	434	5520	179	7/42	10/112	30.83	2.97	62.2	8	1
West Indies	17	10	97	1690.1	340	5157	148	5/11	9/92	34.84	3.05	68.5	3	0
Zimbabwe	18	4	36	683.0	107	2033	52	5/99	9/275	39.09	2.97	78.8	2	0
Sri Lanka	23	13	121	2205.4	292	7693	188	6/43	11/136	40.92	3.48	70.3	9	2
Bangladesh	21	9	102	1522.2	182	5592	110	5/68	10/153	50.83	3.67	83.0	2	1

 

 

Last 3 years

Overall figures

Team	Players	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
South Africa	27	2016-2018	31	294	4108.0	892	13003	534	9/129	13/144	24.35	3.16	46.1	25	6
India	29	2016-2018	37	352	5991.1	1237	17164	660	7/48	13/140	26.00	2.86	54.4	26	5
Australia	34	2016-2018	32	312	5543.3	1138	16580	546	8/50	13/154	30.36	2.99	60.9	20	3
New Zealand	26	2016-2018	25	238	4224.5	959	12279	398	7/39	9/99	30.85	2.90	63.6	12	0
Pakistan	32	2016-2018	26	256	4412.0	859	13295	429	8/41	14/184	30.99	3.01	61.7	23	4
England	37	2016-2018	41	436	6713.0	1346	20652	655	7/42	11/102	31.52	3.07	61.4	21	3
West Indies	28	2016-2018	27	247	3896.0	672	12443	370	8/49	13/121	33.62	3.19	63.1	16	3
Sri Lanka	30	2016-2018	34	327	5467.2	829	18060	535	8/63	13/145	33.75	3.30	61.3	25	6
Ireland	11	2018-2018	1	10	141.0	24	459	13	4/45	6/100	35.30	3.25	65.0	0	0
Bangladesh	31	2016-2018	19	205	3036.0	448	10098	285	7/58	12/117	35.43	3.32	63.9	16	4
Zimbabwe	27	2016-2018	10	108	1807.1	272	5834	130	5/71	9/275	44.87	3.22	83.4	3	0
Afghanistan	11	2018-2018	1	6	104.5	15	461	9	3/51	3/51	51.22	4.39	69.8	0	0

 

 

 

 

[flamy]

It'll be interesting to see how they do on a flat pitch like this. Although they do have scoreboard pressure teaming up with them.

[Clarke]

Soooo glad to see an attacking wrist spinner in action. Hope he gets better with time.

[Trichromatic]

While pace attack can match any other pace attack, depth of spin attack is unmatched.

 

Ashwin

Jadeja

Kuldeep

 

3 successful matches and all 3 contributed in those in this series. 

 

Groom 2 more pacers, preferably a left armer and this will be most diverse attack ever in world cricket.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Groom 2 more pacers, preferably a left armer and this will be most diverse attack ever in world cricket.

 

A left arm pacer, for the sake of it, will get us another Khaleel.  (  Although, in Khaleel's case, he did look good just before debut  ).   

 

The best available pacers should be chosen irrespective of whether they are left armers or right armers.

 

Avesh, Rajpoot, Siraj, Mavi, Saini and Aniket C should be next in line. 

 

Aniket C Is the only left armer in there.  And should be added only if he looks better than the others and not because he is a left armer.

 

The great WI attacks of 1976 to 1995   and the great Aussie test match attacks of 1994 to 2006, did not have any left armers.

 

A lot of variety is possible among right armed bowlers too, like we have now.

Edited January 6, 2019 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Bowling out Australia for just 300, on a very flat track where we scored 622 for 7.

 

This is impressive bowling.

[Nikola]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

A left arm pacer, for the sake of it, will get us another Khaleel.  (  Although, in Khaleel's case, he did look good just before debut  ).   

 

The best available pacers should be chosen irrespective of whether they are left armers or right armers.

 

Avesh, Rajpoot, Siraj, Mavi, Saini and Aniket C should be next in line. 

 

Aniket C Is the only left armer in there.  And should be added only if he looks better than the others and not because he is a left armer.

 

The great WI attacks of 1976 to 1995   and the great Aussie test match attacks of 1994 to 2006, did not have any left armers.

 

A lot off variety is possible among right armed bowlers too, like we have now.

Lol i know those guys deserve it but come on saying same thing everywhere that Avesh, Rajpoot or Siraj should get chance quickly doesn't make sense. Currently bowlers are doing well so why drop them and you keep posting same stuff again and again.

[chewy]

Series nearing end, India definitely best bowling attack in the world. Consistently taking 20 wickets.

 

This series began with Australia's bowling being touted as the best, but now two tests in a row they have struggled to take 20 wickets.

 

Head on, India bowling unit has outperformed Australia bowling on all factors. 

 

Right now top bowling attacks (all conditions), strongest to weakest:

1) India

2) Australia

3) South Africa

4) England

5) New Zealand

6) Pakistan

7) West Indies

8) Bangladesh

9) Sri Lanka

[chewy]

Two matches (1 in SA and 1 in England), India should have won had Ashwin been on the mark. 

It is unfortunate Jadeja missed out on early leg of overseas tour.

 

 

[Vilander]

46 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Bowling out Australia for just 300, on a very flat track where we scored 622 for 7.

 

This is impressive bowling.

with just 25 overs bowled in day 4 and Day 3 last being curtailed as well because of bad light. Clearly, if 2 sessions are there tomorrow India will win.

[flamy]

Rain playing spoilsport, wanted to see if they could take 20 on this pitch. Good stuff taking 10 already, as expected Kuldeep made a difference on this dead pitch.

[Vilander]

48 minutes ago, Nikola said:

saying same thing everywhere that Avesh, Rajpoot or Siraj should get chance quickly doesn't make sense.

to whom? you? if you don't like it don't read it. 

[express bowling]

6 hours ago, Nikola said:

Lol i know those guys deserve it but come on saying same thing everywhere that Avesh, Rajpoot or Siraj should get chance quickly doesn't make sense. Currently bowlers are doing well so why drop them and you keep posting same stuff again and again.

 

1.   This post is in reply to this statement below 

 "  Groom 2 more pacers, preferably a left armer and this will be most diverse attack ever in world cricket. "

So, basically a discussion about grooming new pacers which I did not start.

 

 

2.   I am not advocating dropping the current lot of pacers.  Bumrah, Shami and Ishant are forming a potent combination outside Asia now.  These names above are just proper backup options.

 

I said that they should be next in line, which you did not read properly.

 

 

3.  But the main thing to remember is ...  pacers are more injury prone than other types of cricketers.   Hence,  backups have to be kept ready.

a)  Just look at this current test match.  Ishant got injured and we did not have a proper pace backup. We were lucky that this venue is spin friendly and we won the toss.

b)  When Bumrah got injured in the first 2 tests in England, our pace attack looked much weaker.  We did not have any backups ready either.

 

 

4.  Test matches against weaker nations,  like WI and Zimbabwe, should be used / should have been used to groom new quicks.  

 

Again,  this step is not for replacing the current quicks immediately but for creating adequate backups if needed.

 

 

5.  Since our pace attack is doing well these days, a lot of new threads are opening on pace bowlers and pace bowling.  And they are discussing new pacers ... whereby these names are coming up multiple times. Multiple threads on similar subjects means similar discussion multiple times. This is how forums work.

 

 

 

6.   If you don't like my posts, don't read them.  I rarely quote your posts these days.  

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2019 by express bowling

[Trichromatic]

59 minutes ago, Nikola said:

Lol i know those guys deserve it but come on saying same thing everywhere that Avesh, Rajpoot or Siraj should get chance quickly doesn't make sense. Currently bowlers are doing well so why drop them and you keep posting same stuff again and again.

Why drop them. We play lot of matches. Room for all.

[Straight Drive]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

A left arm pacer, for the sake of it, will get us another Khaleel.  (  Although, in Khaleel's case, he did look good just before debut  ).   

 

The best available pacers should be chosen irrespective of whether they are left armers or right armers.

 

Avesh, Rajpoot, Siraj, Mavi, Saini and Aniket C should be next in line. 

 

Aniket C Is the only left armer in there.  And should be added only if he looks better than the others and not because he is a left armer.

 

The great WI attacks of 1976 to 1995   and the great Aussie test match attacks of 1994 to 2006, did not have any left armers.

 

A lot of variety is possible among right armed bowlers too, like we have now.

Yup, only Bernard Julien and Gary Sobers were the left arm bowlers in WI during that phase. The original pace quartet and the one after Croft was replaced by Marshall had no lefties.

Edited January 6, 2019 by Straight Drive

[Nikola]

3 hours ago, Vilander said:

to whom? you? if you don't like it don't read it. 

He is posting same stuff in almost every post i see of his from last 3 months. I get the point that those bowlers deserves chance to play but then we got test matches almost year later now.

[rkt.india]

5 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

A left arm pacer, for the sake of it, will get us another Khaleel.  (  Although, in Khaleel's case, he did look good just before debut  ).   

 

The best available pacers should be chosen irrespective of whether they are left armers or right armers.

 

Avesh, Rajpoot, Siraj, Mavi, Saini and Aniket C should be next in line. 

 

Aniket C Is the only left armer in there.  And should be added only if he looks better than the others and not because he is a left armer.

 

The great WI attacks of 1976 to 1995   and the great Aussie test match attacks of 1994 to 2006, did not have any left armers.

 

A lot of variety is possible among right armed bowlers too, like we have now.

Left arm Pacers are overrated in tests. They lose effectiveness when they can't get ball to swing in for left armers

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

Yup, only Bernard Julien and Gary Sobers were the left arm bowlers in WI during that phase. The original pace quartet and the one after Croft was replaced by Marshall had no lefties.

 

Yes.  And Sobers retired in 1974  and Julien never played after early 1977.   During their 1976 to 1995 quick bowling heydays, they hardly played any left armers.

Edited January 6, 2019 by express bowling

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Left arm Pacers are overrated in tests. They lose effectiveness when they can't get ball to swing in for left armers

 

True.

 

And even otherwise, a variation should be sought only when similar quality is available among different types.