Now Ganguly and Robert Key says Pujara has no Intent while batting

[kira]

6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Don't care about his strike rate. 

Even pujara doesn't care care about his striker rate, or the runs, or the match situation 

[kira]

I remember when people use to call him the new wall of India , what a joke

[Gollum]

Make Pujara open for the rest of the series. We all understand his limitations but we need to extract the best out of him. Sick of seeing the no 4 batsman walking in to bat in the 3rd over every damn time. Pujara has shown more guts in Jo'berg and here than Rahul/Rahane/Vijay/Dhawan.....he lacks talent but in the crisis we find ourselves in he can't be dropped. 

 

Nothing much can be done any more but hopefully we have the next bunch of kids ready to take over in our next overseas cycle.....perhaps starting in Australia later this year. 

[R!TTER]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Make Pujara open for the rest of the series. We all understand his limitations but we need to extract the best out of him. Sick of seeing the no 4 batsman walking in to bat in the 3rd over every damn time. Pujara has shown more guts in Jo'berg and here than Rahul/Rahane/Vijay/Dhawan.....he lacks talent but in the crisis we find ourselves in he can't be dropped. 

 

Nothing much can be done any more but hopefully we have the next bunch of kids ready to take over in our next overseas cycle.....perhaps starting in Australia later this year. 

What's your prediction for Aus, against the likes of Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins, Pattinson etc.

[Gollum]

15 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

What's your prediction for Aus, against the likes of Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins, Pattinson etc.

Will be easier to bat even against that attack because

a. flatter pitches under baking hot sun

b. we handle bounce and seam (not persistent like SA) way better than swing

c. no mental scars on batting front, no nemesis like Anderson in Aussie ranks

d. Aussie bowlers are fragile, we may see a depleted attack cos of injuries to some of them

 

Taking 20 wickets even against a Smithless/Warnerless unit will be tough. We never came close to doing that in 2014-15 and even without the 2 stalwarts, mediocre Aussie batsmen feel at home on those kind of decks. Ashwin/Jadeja will be rendered useless...Kuldeep has the tools but way too raw atm, if he bowls like he did this test he will go at 10 RPO in Australia, Yasir Shah was torn to bits last time and the Pakistani has much better control. We need more incisive quicks, especially tall ones (not Ishant) who hit the seam...under Kohli regime we may see Bhuvi take the new ball  on Adelaide patta supported by short 1 dimensional Shami/Umesh duo. I don't see Shastri-Kohli duo even attempting to formulate a bowling unit designed for those conditions, they will apply the same formula as India. The low IQ dimwits may even play 3 spinners, they have no clue about tactics/strategy. 

 

Edited August 13, 2018 by Gollum

[someone]

Short memories, a Dravid once went 40 balls without a run. There aren't any issue with SR. It's his inability to make it count. Plus, he "seems" to have a arrogant character, so that also makes it worse. You can check his interviews and he comes across as a attitude guy..

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, someone said:

Short memories, a Dravid once went 40 balls without a run. There aren't any issue with SR. It's his inability to make it count. Plus, he "seems" to have a arrogant character, so that also makes it worse. You can check his interviews and he comes across as a attitude guy..

those were few occasion, with pujara its almost every occasion overseas 

[mishra]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Don't care about his strike rate. 

But I do care about runs he scores. Allthough, it doesnt helps when we have our openers back to pavallion and then 4/40.

 

But he got to score some runs. We need to stop questioning his place and let him do whatever he can. Bottomline is, Ou batting will suck even more without him

[mishra]

36 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

those were few occasion, with pujara its almost every occasion overseas 

Dravid was a pain to scoreboard. Allthough he was backed and backed very well, Under Kohli, There is no chance he would have become a legend

[shortbread]

The question is does the Indian test team need a batsman like Pujara?

 

Pujara is 30+ and at this stage of his career it's pointless asking the guy to up the ante and try and score quickly. If Kohli and co. do not have plans for the guy in the test team do not select him in the touring squad.

[Lannister]

We seem to have more number of FTBs than any other team and the average age of the team is also very high. Just no foresight and no directions with this team. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

55 minutes ago, mishra said:

Dravid was a pain to scoreboard. Allthough he was backed and backed very well, Under Kohli, There is no chance he would have become a legend

Even dravid was dropped during his early years

Dravid had a lot more strokes then Pujara and thats why he was successful........

 

Cnt put a huge part of blame on kohli for pujara , he avg 26 overseas and many of those test were under dhoni

Id rather blame kohli for rahane n rahul for putting their position under threats for avg players like dhawan n rohit 

[mishra]

9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Even dravid was dropped during his early years

Dravid had a lot more strokes then Pujara and thats why he was successful........

 

Cnt put a huge part of blame on kohli for pujara , he avg 26 overseas and many of those test were under dhoni

Id rather blame kohli for rahane n rahul for putting their position under threats for avg players like dhawan n rohit 

When whole team gets bundled out for less than 150 consistently, 26 is not a bad average. Problem is other players

Edited August 13, 2018 by mishra

[Ankit_sharma03]

16 minutes ago, mishra said:

When whole team gets bundled out for less than 150 consistently, 26 is not a bad average. Problem is other players

only if he is scoring that to, the 26 avg is overall not this series....this series he wud be avg around 10

Overall when avg 26, rahane n vijay scored runs

 

Pujara is actually a bigger problem, atleast someone like rahane has done smething in past.....Puajara has been very below avg ever since

And a batsman avg 26 is bad, ashwin avg  31 overseas

if 26 is ok, then how can we question rohit n dhawan who are nearby

[mishra]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

only if he is scoring that to, the 26 avg is overall not this series....this series he wud be avg around 10

Overall when avg 26, rahane n vijay scored runs

 

Pujara is actually a bigger problem, atleast someone like rahane has done smething in past.....Puajara has been very below avg ever since

And a batsman avg 26 is bad, ashwin avg  31 overseas

if 26 is ok, then how can we question rohit n dhawan who are nearby

Its about matches he played. I am sure if pull out stats for all bats in SENA countries in matches he played,  It wont be bad compared to other bats in team.

[Laaloo]

This guy never puts away short and wide deliveries. Eats up balls. Puts pressure on the other Batsmen. And suddenyl always seems to get some unplayable ball and gets out. He has had enough sample size overseas and he has failed barring a few innings. Thats not good enough. You are a bad fielder overseas. You can't steal quick singles or turn 2s into 3s. Sorry it's not good enough.

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 minutes ago, mishra said:

Its about matches he played. I am sure if pull out stats for all bats in SENA countries in matches he played,  It wont be bad compared to other bats in team.

why only sena , lets include WI where he struggled to . Even kohli struggled their in his 1st tour 

These are records of all players overseas 

 

IF these stats are not doesnt scream that pujara doesnt have problem, i dnt knw what will....he is near rohit sharma. A test or 2 test more failure n he ll go down 

 

 

[jusarrived]

44 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Even dravid was dropped during his early years

Dravid had a lot more strokes then Pujara and thats why he was successful........

 

Cnt put a huge part of blame on kohli for pujara , he avg 26 overseas and many of those test were under dhoni

Id rather blame kohli for rahane n rahul for putting their position under threats for avg players like dhawan n rohit 

Dravid had more strokes than VVS , Sehwag and Ganguly , he played cautiously doesnt mean he was limited . Only Tendulkar was more versatile , but Dravid could play all around park . Puajra is more like Paul collingwood , very limited array of of strokes especially against Pacers .

[mishra]

5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

why only sena , lets include WI where he struggled to . Even kohli struggled their in his 1st tour 

These are records of all players overseas 

 

IF these stats are not doesnt scream that pujara doesnt have problem, i dnt knw what will....he is near rohit sharma. A test or 2 test more failure n he ll go down 

 

 

WI is not SENA. Neither is Sri Lanka or Bangledesh.

 

I am talking about places where we get humiliated.

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, mishra said:

WI is not SENA. Neither is Sri Lanka or Bangledesh.

This does not include SL or bangladesh record 

OK for u record in SENA countries 

 

Pujara- 26.05

Dhawan- 27.12

Rahul- 16.25 

Vijay- 32.52

kohli 49.72

Rohit 23.78

Ashwin 27.38 

Edited August 13, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03