Sachinism Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Clarke said: everyone calm down & have cake Stop forcing gayness onto us. I feel violated. Stradlater and Switchblade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I see they are adding to the Initialism LGBT. Now it is LGBTQIAP+ . Where does it stop? They should all be clubbed and called non-hetero. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Moochad said: You are lacking basic understanding of the issue here on the issue. Your entire argument comes down to an absurdity, a temporary change. A temporary spike doesn't change the base levels of hormones, which are possibly totally genetic. Athletes experience a temporary increase in testosterone levels after squatting. That doesn't change their baseline levels of testosterone. Stop squatting and the hormones will return to normal. In the context of this thread you are saying along the lines of, male drinks too much soy milk he turns gay because he has too much estrogen, until he stops drinking soy milk, where he will turn normal again. Yeah, that's not how this works. A "hypothesis" that is very much in consideration among geneticists doesn't need validation because a "religious-minded" engineer finds it incompatible with his political beliefs. This is also a form of personal incredulity fallacy. You and mulo both are wasting your time. IIRC mulo once told me he was a blank slatist or something along those lines. Here you are arguing for genetic determinism as a possibility which is anathema of blank slate ideologies. There is no way for the two to see eye to eye, and the posts will get more and more repetitive. It's better you or he stops. Just my opinion though Edited September 7, 2018 by Tibarn Moochad, UrmiSinhaRay, Stradlater and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tibarn said: You and mulo both are wasting your time. IIRC mulo once told me he was a blank slatist or something along those lines. Here you are arguing for genetic determinism as a possibility which is anathema of blank slate ideologies. There is no way for the two to see eye to eye, and the posts will get more and more repetitive. It's better you or he stops. Just my opinion though Fair enough You are pretty interested in that genetic determinism stuff no? Switchblade, Tibarn and UrmiSinhaRay 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Moochad said: Fair enough You are pretty interested in that genetic determinism stuff no? I guess, but that is off topic UrmiSinhaRay and Moochad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tibarn said: I guess, but that is off topic We can make it on topic just add soy milk Edited September 7, 2018 by Moochad Tibarn and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 @Tibarn @Moochad Indians have this knack of being a rebel, will aggressively support anything that's unconventional because it's a cool thing to do, of course without reflecting upon how the things they support will impact the value system. Will always be followers unlike Russia. Franco Vazquez, Tibarn and Moochad 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Vazquez Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 47 minutes ago, MechEng said: @Tibarn @Moochad Indians have this knack of being a rebel, will aggressively support anything that's unconventional because it's a cool thing to do, of course without reflecting upon how the things they support will impact the value system. Will always be followers unlike Russia. True Russia is a great example for that. I would like to be in a country which is developed and civilized but have anti-lgbt laws as opposed to country which is not doing well economically but have lgbt laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 52 minutes ago, MechEng said: @Tibarn @Moochad Indians have this knack of being a rebel, will aggressively support anything that's unconventional because it's a cool thing to do, of course without reflecting upon how the things they support will impact the value system. Will always be followers unlike Russia. Whose value system? Why do you believe your value system is better than others? UrmiSinhaRay and GoldenSun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 https://www.newsbytesapp.com/timeline/India/31370/139716/viral-post-of-mumbai-man-on-coming-out/amp/google Came out of the closet Yesterday at Mumbai, Maharastra I am so Gay Today ( literally and figuratively ) as I am no longer a criminal. While I pen down my message, it’s my sincere request to share this message hoping it reaches to folks who are struggling within and also to their families. Please do not hesitate in sharing. If you hesitate, I lose. We lose! Sexuality is a part of your identity and not your identity. Everyone takes their own time to accept themselves thereafter its a journey of self-awareness and owning your... See More 13K 994 8.2K UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachinism Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 hours ago, MechEng said: @Tibarn @Moochad Indians have this knack of being a rebel, will aggressively support anything that's unconventional because it's a cool thing to do, of course without reflecting upon how the things they support will impact the value system. Will always be followers unlike Russia. Indians go against the trend and support the unconventional. But also are followers. The cognitive dissonance is strong here. Sadly these people can't debate the matter at hand so instead have now resolved into some circlejerk about how much smarter they are than everyone else. What a sad state of affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 hours ago, MechEng said: @Tibarn @Moochad Indians have this knack of being a rebel, will aggressively support anything that's unconventional because it's a cool thing to do, of course without reflecting upon how the things they support will impact the value system. Will always be followers unlike Russia. What have Russians achieved so far with their alleged well known "knack for leadership" that you seem to be so keen about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, Sachinism said: Indians go against the trend and support the unconventional. But also are followers. The cognitive dissonance is strong here. Sadly these people can't debate the matter at hand so instead have now resolved into some circlejerk about how much smarter they are than everyone else. What a sad state of affairs Reverse inferiority complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBN Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Over a decade ago, sitting a classroom we were discussing how discrimination against gays was similar to slavery. Slavery was eventually abolished and within a decade since that discussion, we are seeing more rights for gays, acceptance in the media, and changes in laws that accept same sex marriage in the west and slowly trickling to other places. It was/is just a matter of time. Even in the media, tv shows, movies, we have seen a rise in showing gays,etc. Also, discriminating against gays is similar to discrimination against minorities. If you are going to discriminate against gays, then it also sets a precedent for other minorities to be discriminated as well. Same sex marriage is the next step in India. GoldenSun, beetle and Stradlater 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikhil_cric Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 hours ago, MechEng said: @Tibarn @Moochad Indians have this knack of being a rebel, will aggressively support anything that's unconventional because it's a cool thing to do, of course without reflecting upon how the things they support will impact the value system. Will always be followers unlike Russia. Assuming you're Indian, I think you do your fellow country men a disservice by saying that . And anyway follow who exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 The posts above strengthen my point even further. I stated my opinion without attacking other's opinion (I specifically quoted Tibarn and Moochad for this), but here plenty seem to be upset with my opinion and target me for this. Proselytization is the next step in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, MechEng said: The posts above strengthen my point even further. I stated my opinion without attacking other's opinion (I specifically quoted Tibarn and Moochad for this), but here plenty seem to be upset with my opinion and target me for this. Proselytization is the next step in India. The posts above strengthen nothing but the fact that most 'educated' Indians who scoff at anything 'modern' and 'progressive' are actually the ones with no solid argument to back their statements and hence the tendency to obscure their arguments with random out-of-nowhere inserted technical jargons. I mean proselytization really? Do you realize most Christians out there are some of the hardcore anti Gay crusaders? How thick can someone be . GoldenSun, UrmiSinhaRay and beetle 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachinism Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, MechEng said: The posts above strengthen my point even further. I stated my opinion without attacking other's opinion (I specifically quoted Tibarn and Moochad for this), but here plenty seem to be upset with my opinion and target me for this. Proselytization is the next step in India. Aww it seems I hurt your feelings. I was just making an observation. Continue with your circlejerk... Switchblade and GoldenSun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 5 hours ago, MechEng said: @Tibarn @Moochad Indians have this knack of being a rebel, will aggressively support anything that's unconventional because it's a cool thing to do, of course without reflecting upon how the things they support will impact the value system. Will always be followers unlike Russia. The posts above strengthen my point even further. I stated my opinion without attacking other's opinion (I specifically quoted Tibarn and Moochad for this), but here plenty seem to be upset with my opinion and target me for this. Proselytization is the next step in India. I don't agree about the Indians are followers portion of your posts, but I do find the shadow-boxing in this thread hilarious. From my experience passive-aggressive behavior is a sign of people unsure about what they are saying. This thread is getting absolutely juvenile. What's more telling is the lack of links here. I'm sure telling you and @Franco Vazquez how wrong you guys are, without supporting evidence, will convince you. Oh wait... Tibarn, MechEng and Switchblade 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 18 hours ago, beetle said: You are right about the women's right part but that does not mean others rights should be ignored. 377 is not just about men.. It effects women too. Lesbians have the same issues that homosexual men face. So this is a gender neutral issues. This is called typical victim of propaganda.Do you even know what sec 377 was all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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