Has the time arrived to side line Shami more and more????

[Nikola]

Just now, zen said:

Shami has question marks over his long term fitness 

He has bowled at 136 - 138 kph in 5th test but yeah looks unfit even after that. I would say he did the job in 4th test where he got 6 wickets and run out. This test he deserved 2 - 3 wickets with spell he bowled yesterday. The time i felt he was poor was 3rd test & 1st test's 2nd innings. He wants to play test cricket and i won't really say kick him asap because he has bowled heart out while his daughter was in ICU. Someone should work on him & Umesh. Both of these bowlers have atleast 3 years of cricket left if not 4 or 5.

[Nikola]

5 minutes ago, The Realist said:

He will be in his 40s by then. 

I don't believe he is 36 now and is clocking 140kph avg in this series but yeah looks surely more than what his real age shows.

[UrmiSinhaRay]

He has bowled at 136 - 138 kph in 5th test but yeah looks unfit even after that. I would say he did the job in 4th test where he got 6 wickets and run out. This test he deserved 2 - 3 wickets with spell he bowled yesterday. The time i felt he was poor was 3rd test & 1st test's 2nd innings. He wants to play test cricket and i won't really say kick him asap because he has bowled heart out while his daughter was in ICU. Someone should work on him & Umesh. Both of these bowlers have atleast 3 years of cricket left if not 4 or 5.

what happened to his daughter man ?

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[Nikola]

Just now, UrmiSinhaRay said:

what happened to his daughter man ?

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I was talking about 2016-17 New Zealand series at Eden gardens where he got 3 or 4 wickets in last innings and went to see his daughter straight after the match ended.

[UrmiSinhaRay]

I was talking about 2016-17 New Zealand series at Eden gardens where he got 3 or 4 wickets in last innings and went to see his daughter straight after the match ended.

no i was asking what happened to his daughter that she had to put in ICU

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[Nikola]

3 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

no i was asking what happened to his daughter that she had to put in ICU

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well i have no idea i just remember reading in news that his daugher was in ICU. Maybe was alot sick?

Edited September 8, 2018 by Nikola

[UrmiSinhaRay]

well i have no idea i just remember reading in news that his daugher was in ICU. Maybe was alot sick?

You know, it breaks my heart to see kids sick.

I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but Shami does love his kids a lot.
Even those from Haseen's earlier marriage.

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[express bowling]

1.  Fitness has not been an issue with Shami in this series.  This is the fittest I have seen him in the last 40 months.  He has run in well and has bowled long spells in every test match at high speeds.

 

2.  England is turning out to be his Achilles heel.  Probably because of his natural length which is on the shorter side of good length.  Holding was explaining it well ...  the ball moves a lot in England and the slightly shorter length is making the ball miss the edge by getting more distance to move after pitching.

 

3.  Shami bowls really well in Asia, where his natural length is more suitable ... and also on bouncy tracks with some movement but not too much like England. He should be and will be a part of our pace bowling group in the near future.

 

4.  Siraj and Saini need to be tried in the tests vs WI.   If Shami or any other pacer disappoints in Australia or is unfit ... then these guys can come in smoothly.

 

5.  Siraj can anyway be played in Australia, provided he can sustain intensity in the tests vs. WI.

Edited September 9, 2018 by express bowling

[Stradlater]

He has this mental block where he can't control himself for too long thus giving some easy runs  . Still sidelining him would be unfair imo. He hasn't been that bad and picked some crucial wickets to turn the momentum in India's favor.

Edited September 8, 2018 by Stradlater

[Nikola]

He Has bowled fine spell even today but just 1 wicket to show. Idk if will be unfair to drop him but maybe he is unlucky or maybe he needs to try something else. This is our bowling coach's job to tell him what to do when he is not getting edges. We needed Zak/Jason Gillespie type of coach not this joker bharat arun.

[prasen82]

At least the bowlers are decent. So something bharat arun must be doing. If anyone need to be sacked it is bangar.

[Pollack]

Shami bowled brilliantly today from little I was able to watch.

[sandsaims]

Shami averaging 35 in the series and the highest economy rate amongst all bowlers, he has been a massive failure.

[express bowling]

11 minutes ago, prasen82 said:

At least the bowlers are decent. So something bharat arun must be doing. If anyone need to be sacked it is bangar.

 

Exactly.

 

Our bowlers have been very good in 6 of the 8 innings so far and decent in 1 more.

 

But even top batsmen have regressed under Bangar.

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, sandsaims said:

Shami highest economy rate amongst all bowlers, 

 

No.

 

Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
HH Pandya (INDIA)	4	6	64.1	7	247	10	5/28	6/50	24.70	3.84	38.5	1	0
SM Curran (ENG)	4	7	68.4	9	236	9	4/74	5/92	26.22	3.43	45.7	0	0
Mohammed Shami (INDIA)	5	9	155.4	25	532	15	4/57	6/108	35.46	3.41	62.2	0	0
AU Rashid (ENG)	5	7	72.0	8	246	8	3/101	4/147	30.75	3.41	54.0	0	0
BA Stokes (ENG)	4	7	103.2	16	348	13	4/40	6/113	26.76	3.36	47.6	0	0
MM Ali (ENG)	2	3	59.0	7	184	11	5/63	9/134	16.72	3.11	32.1	1	0
SCJ Broad (ENG)	5	9	139.5	36	432	15	4/44	5/81	28.80	3.08	55.9	0	0
I Sharma (INDIA)	5	9	150.0	36	435	18	5/51	6/97	24.16	2.90	50.0	1	0
CR Woakes (ENG)	2	4	58.0	10	167	8	3/75	4/43	20.87	2.87	43.5	0	0
RA Jadeja (INDIA)	1	2	40.0	1	110	5	4/79	5/110	22.00	2.75	48.0	0	0
JJ Bumrah (INDIA)	3	6	115.2	31	307	14	5/85	7/122	21.92	2.66	49.4	1	0
R Ashwin (INDIA)	4	7	139.4	30	360	11	4/62	7/121	32.72	2.57	76.1	0	0
JM Anderson (ENG)	5	9	161.1	45	390	21	5/20	9/43	18.57	2.41	46.0	1

 

 

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Player	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
MM Ali (ENG)	2	3	59.0	7	184	11	5/63	9/134	16.72	3.11	32.1	1	0
HH Pandya (INDIA)	4	6	64.1	7	247	10	5/28	6/50	24.70	3.84	38.5	1	0
CR Woakes (ENG)	2	4	58.0	10	167	8	3/75	4/43	20.87	2.87	43.5	0	0
SM Curran (ENG)	4	7	68.4	9	236	9	4/74	5/92	26.22	3.43	45.7	0	0
JM Anderson (ENG)	5	9	161.1	45	390	21	5/20	9/43	18.57	2.41	46.0	1	0
BA Stokes (ENG)	4	7	103.2	16	348	13	4/40	6/113	26.76	3.36	47.6	0	0
RA Jadeja (INDIA)	1	2	40.0	1	110	5	4/79	5/110	22.00	2.75	48.0	0	0
JJ Bumrah (INDIA)	3	6	116.0	31	310	14	5/85	7/122	22.14	2.67	49.7	1	0
I Sharma (INDIA)	5	9	150.0	36	435	18	5/51	6/97	24.16	2.90	50.0	1	0
AU Rashid (ENG)	5	7	72.0	8	246	8	3/101	4/147	30.75	3.41	54.0	0	0
SCJ Broad (ENG)	5	9	139.5	36	432	15	4/44	5/81	28.80	3.08	55.9	0	0
Mohammed Shami (INDIA)	5	9	155.4	25	532	15	4/57	6/108	35.46	3.41	62.2	0	0
R Ashwin (INDIA)	4	7	139.4	30	360	11	4/62	7/121	32.72	2.57	76.1	0	0

[Nikhil_cric]

 

Comfortably the worst bowler in our team and that includes an unfit Ashwin. . Umesh can count himself unlucky to miss out. Shami bowls wicket taking balls but then bowls utter dross to release pressure .

[Nikola]

Might be his last test in SENA countries.

[cric_fan]

So Shami is the scapegoat?

[Number]

Too impatient to keep bowling the stock ball 85% of time. Same goes for his batting. Wants quick success with very little effort.