Pujara is just doing enough to save his place but thats not enough for team. Why is he getting away among all

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

As m saying our concern is overseas, we cnt ignore pujara numbers coz then we are not going to win 

Subcontinet can balance numbers of dhawan n lets not forget he was gr8 in NZ 2014 tour where pujara avg 15 

 

Playing 5 batsman among which one avg around 30 overseas will not help, his inconsistencies also needs to be looked into it

M not up for dropping him right now, But team mngmt shud tell him we are expecting more out of u and if aussie tour doesnt go well ( which i have feeling he wnt do well ) then some serious thinking shud be done regd him

Let's wait and watch .... he has shown inclination to turn it around 

[rtmohanlal]

12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Kohli made runs everywhere aprt from eng in his 1st cycle, infact he was a beast. 

Pujara was below avg then and still is avg 

 

till when are we going to be happy with avg, not so bad

 

Rahane in all sena countries has had only one bad tour actually which was this one. Pujara i think only has one good n one avg ......Lets not go to subcontinet ....no one is questioning him their

 

IMO he has turned nothing around , it was still 1-2 innings in 8 chances.....m ok if a young player does that but not a senior one

Turn around is what kohli did this time

this . Kohli deserved his chances  to play in this ENG series because he has been   so brilliant in all  of SENA except ENG . Similar was the case with Rahane too, but unlike Kohli he couldn't turn it around this time , for which he can be  exempted because to be brilliant in all alien countries is an exception  rather than a norm.

Pujara still remains mediocre in all of SENA + WI . Time to move on from him much intensely than the case is with Rahane

[zen]

Just now, rtmohanlal said:

this . Kohli deserved his chances  to play in this ENG series because he has been   so brilliant in all  of SENA except ENG . Similar was the case with Rahane too, but unlike Kohli he couldn't turn it around this time , for which he can be  exempted because to be brilliant in all alien countries is an exception  rather than a norm.

Pujara still remains mediocre in all of SENA + WI . Time to move on from him much intensely than the case is with Rahane

A weak argument as Ind is currently #1 because of its performance in subcon, where Pujara wins you test series 

 

[Trichromatic]

Scored 50 in SA, won test for India.

 

Result - dropped for first test for Dhawan 

 

He didn't escape.

[rtmohanlal]

10 minutes ago, zen said:

Irrelevant as both were chosen based on their records, whatever they are, to play in Eng .... Pujara displayed an upward trend, while Rahane, who is supposed to take up the baton in SENA, got exposed

 

Also Pujara wins you more tests with his batting in most conditions   

For me this is the most important fact : Pujara still remains mediocre in all of SENA + WI  despite several series in these countries and that says a lot about his general calibre to master those  alien conditions. Infact it has been 8 series  till date to these 5 alien countries  combined and he remains absolutely mediocre in all of these 5 countries!!!!!!!!!!! You believe in what ever you feel of him , but  sorry,  for me this track record  is faaaar from adequate. On the other hand, Rahane has been so brilliant in 4 out  of these 5 countries till date.

And to me, Rahane  convinces me far more in future series in these alien countries than Pujara.

[zen]

2 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

For me this is the most important fact : Pujara still remains mediocre in all of SENA + WI  despite several series in these countries and that says a lot about his general calibre to master those  alien conditions. Infact it has been 8 series  till date to these 5 alien countries  combined and he remains absolutely mediocre in all of these 5 countries!!!!!!!!!!! You believe in what ever you feel of him , but  sorry,  for me this track record  is faaaar from adequate. On the other hand, Rahane has been so brilliant in 4 out  of these 5 countries till date.

And to me, Rahane  convinces me far more in future series in these alien countries than Pujara.

You don't pick players based on what they did 4-5 years ago .... In last 2 years, Rahane has struggled. In Eng, he got exposed .... End of story .... Pujara is atm a better option considering subcon + SENA 

[rtmohanlal]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

You don't pick players based on what they did 4-5 years ago .... In last 2 years, Rahane has struggled. In Eng, he got exposed .... End of story .... Pujara is atm a better option considering subcon + SENA 

ok ... you stick with your logic .... because I am not at all interested in  arguing to prove a point or some thing like that. And I shall stick on with my  justifications  for  placing Rahane  far higher than Pujara... no problems

[zen]

18 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

ok ... you stick with your logic .... because I am not at all interested in  arguing to prove a point or some thing like that. And I shall stick on with my  justifications  for  placing Rahane  far higher than Pujara... no problems

Rahane can be considered if he shows good form. Right now, I would want to try out a youngster 

[kohli]

Play rahane only outside,and pujara in Asia.

[LORD_analyst]

pujara has below average technique in moving conditions.....highly suseptible to  inswing and also sometimes pokes at balls outside off.

[Lannister]

The biggest problematic players are Dhawan, Rahane and Shami. These three need to be given immediate focus before turning our attention to other players. I don't think they have anything left to offer for this team. So need to let them go. 

[prasen82]

Of all our problems pujara is the least. He can at least block 50 balls on average to protect middle order.

 

Rahane comes in much better position and struggles . He is supposed to marshall the tail and gets out before he gets to that position. 

 

Pujara is on notice but we need to go in a phased manner. Get rahane and dhawan out and get shaw/mayank and nair into the team.

 

Nair deserves chances ahead of gill and vihari to be honest . I think we need to provide hope to ranji performers else everyone will look at ipl as way to get into test team.

 

Pandya, rahane should go and play ranji and if they perform there they should get selected on A tours . I think this will make everyone strive more for consistency. 

 

Now there is a huge chaltha hai attitude .

 

[Brainfade]

His innings in the 4th test was pivotal in giving the team respectability. That's what people remember. 

[rkt.india]

Kohli is doing the same, just enough to pad his stats not enough to win games.

[CoverDrive]

No one except Kohli was perfect. But Pujara, Ishant and Ashwin also kind of showed importance of exposure in conditions before going there to play. Even with wretched county season pujara knew what was coming and he played according and was not horrible. 

 

Imagine if Rahul, Vijay and Rahane has some experience of those conditions we could have had better showing from these guys. 

[rkt.india]

Will say the same about fast bowlers.  They just let England get away when they had to grab the neck and crush it, time and time again.

[diga]

25 minutes ago, CoverDrive said:

No one except Kohli was perfect. But Pujara, Ishant and Ashwin also kind of showed importance of exposure in conditions before going there to play. Even with wretched county season pujara knew what was coming and he played according and was not horrible. 

 

Imagine if Rahul, Vijay and Rahane has some experience of those conditions we could have had better showing from these guys. 

Not sure, but I think Rahul has not even played club ckt before in Eng... Thats idiotic

[Soorma_Bhopali]

We need to give Mayank Agrawal and Lokesh Rahul a go as openers ..I think Dhawan & Vijay are out of red-ball cricket .

 

Rahane & Pandya also need to be dropped with specific feedback on whaT THEY NEED TO IMPROVE UPON.lET THEM MAKE ENOUGH RUNS IN DOMESTICS TO FORCE THEIR WAY BACK IN SIDE. Pandya needs to score some big hundreds  beforec  deserving a no.6 position in batting .

[mishra]

Still, he is always the first man to be dropped.

[zen]

If we have to rely on Rahane 4-5 years old stats to show that he is good, ironically, it would only show that he is a regressed player who needs to work on his game to be reconsidered for a spot

 

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Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
V Kohli	8	16	0	879	153	54.93	1500	58.60	3	4	1	102	1
CA Pujara	7	14	1	378	132*	29.07	1068	35.39	1	2	2	48	0
KL Rahul	7	14	0	329	149	23.50	551	59.70	1	0	2	48	1
AM Rahane	6	12	0	314	81	26.16	734	42.77	0	2	1	34	0
HH Pandya	7	14	1	283	93	21.76	461	61.38	0	2	2	42	2
R Ashwin	6	12	2	216	38	21.60	321	67.28	0	0	0	33	1
S Dhawan	5	10	0	194	44	19.40	325	59.69	0	0	0	28	0
RR Pant	3	6	0	162	114	27.00	252	64.28	1	0	1	20	6
M Vijay	5	10	0	128	46	12.80	434	29.49	0	0	2	15	0

 

An avg of 26 at #5 or below in SENA for a SENA specialist is a joke! 

 

 

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Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
CA Pujara	12	21	1	1179	202	58.95	2549	46.25	4	6	1	141	2
V Kohli	11	19	2	1010	235	59.41	1717	58.82	3	2	1	110	1
KL Rahul	8	13	1	696	199	58.00	1175	59.23	1	6	1	85	6
M Vijay	11	19	0	656	136	34.52	1562	41.99	2	3	1	71	9
AM Rahane	10	18	2	608	188	38.00	1263	48.13	1	2	1	66	7

 

At home vs SENA, avg only 38 

 

 

We can conclude that based on his current form, he is not a SENA specialist whether at home or away .... Needs to improve his current game to be reconsidered (and not based on what he did 4-5 years ago)