Rasgulla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, speedheat said: @velu no threads yet on dhonis 'pointing skills' ??? Bangladeshi has recovered from AC final loss Its ok BOT you won hearts,lungs and kidneys though. Nikola 1 Link to comment
velu Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, speedheat said: @velu no threads yet on dhonis 'pointing skills' ??? already enough misery for you guys Link to comment
Switchblade Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, velu said: already enough misery for you guys Slowly experts are coming out velu bhai and calling him to step up any views or ur views ? Link to comment
velu Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Switchblade said: Slowly experts are coming out velu bhai and calling him to step up any views or ur views ? the way he batted in the finals till dk got out shows that he is back to his brutal best ( another thread coming ) Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, velu said: the way he batted in the finals till dk got out shows that he is back to his brutal best ( another thread coming ) Veny Prasad has now asked him to step up as a batsman Link to comment
velu Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Switchblade said: Veny Prasad has now asked him to step up as a batsman venketash prasad asking dhoni to bat better ? thats new low Jimmy Cliff 1 Link to comment
sscomp32 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: Tag new account @CSK Fan What an insult . Doob mar @CSK Fan Rasgulla, Hell Raiser, Shunya and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, beetle said: Velu...you will make the veins in my head burst. With how thalaiva has been sucking these days, the PR staff will be doing overtime everyday to 'improve' his image. Little do they know, it's actually not improving. In fact, it's worsening and it's getting cringeworthy. No other cricketer in history needed cheap trolls on the internet to improve his image.... Jab accha na kar sako toh bura bhi mat karna... The PR staff need to follow these wise words beetle 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, velu said: venketash prasad asking dhoni to bat better ? thats new low How will he convert this low to a high velu bhai his aura is finished now opposition are happy to see him at the crease as he is not the same player as he was before. Link to comment
gattaca Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Dhoni strike rate and shouting at fielders makes him a better contributor. Even Prasad is saying about his batting. Probably this has to be the worst for a batsman. Link to comment
velu Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 44 minutes ago, Laaloo said: With how thalaiva has been sucking these days, the PR staff will be doing overtime everyday to 'improve' his image. Little do they know, it's actually not improving. In fact, it's worsening and it's getting cringeworthy. No other cricketer in history needed cheap trolls on the internet to improve his image.... Jab accha na kar sako toh bura bhi mat karna... The PR staff need to follow these wise words nah .. if i go throw the media , it seems that haterz are the one who are getting mad .. we are cool as usual Laaloo 1 Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 3 hours ago, velu said: Stayed not out - 46 times India won - 44 times Match tied - 1 time India lost - 1 time ( we lost not because of dhoni ) Special thanks to KP bhai for bringing this stat to our notice. @Switchblade Ye sab chodo , 2015 WC ke baad stats nikaalo pehle .. Fat jaayegi Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, sscomp32 said: What an insult . Doob mar @CSK Fan Its an honor to be compared to the great kira Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, sscomp32 said: What an insult . Doob mar @CSK Fan wo mar gaya tab Dhoni kicked his sachin out... He is busy with new accounts @kira @KiraReturns @KiraReturnsAgain Next one after Csk one ll be Ailiaaareturns Edited September 30, 2018 by Rasgulla sscomp32, Nikola and Shunya 2 1 Link to comment
philcric Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, velu said: Stayed not out - 46 times India won - 44 times Match tied - 1 time India lost - 1 time ( we lost not because of dhoni ) Special thanks to KP bhai for bringing this stat to our notice. @Switchblade What a stupid stat. Very unlikely a non-minnow team loses a match chasing while a top 6 batter still at the crease. Happens very rarely. A chasing team usually loses an ODI game when it's top and middle order gets out. The stats will be similar to most top 6 batsmen of any good ODI sides like Ind, Aus, SA. PS: Nothing against Dhoni. He was a great middle order bat and a chaser. Edited September 30, 2018 by philcric Link to comment
Shunya Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, philcric said: What a stupid stat. Very unlikely a non-minnow team loses a match chasing while a top 6 batter still at the crease. Happens very rarely. A chasing team usually loses an ODI game when it's top and middle order gets out. The stats will be similar to most top 6 batsmen of any good ODI sides like Ind, Aus, SA. PS: Nothing against Dhoni. He was a great middle order bat and a chaser. Not a stupid stat at all unless ofcourse its stupid bcos nothing good about Dhoni is to be written here. He has high tendency of remaining not out and if he has such stats of winning almost everyone of those matches, then it is an awesome thing to do. Dont understand why you call it stupid when we should be cherishing this thing. Teams will die for such players in their team. FYI, Dhoni has 46 notouts in 2nd innings and only 1 in loss. If it was as simple as you make it sound, we would have 100s of players in the world who would be able to do it. Can you share the names of those players that you talk about who has done that more than Dhoni? or even close to him? sscomp32 and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
philcric Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, Shunya said: Not a stupid stat at all unless ofcourse its stupid bcos nothing good about Dhoni is to be written here. He has high tendency of remaining not out and if he has such stats of winning almost everyone of those matches, then it is an awesome thing to do. Dont understand why you call it stupid when we should be cherishing this thing. Teams will die for such players in their team. FYI, Dhoni has 46 notouts in 2nd innings and only 1 in loss. If it was as simple as you make it sound, we would have 100s of players in the world who would be able to do it. Can you share the names of those players that you talk about who has done that more than Dhoni? or even close to him? Did you not see "Nothing against Dhoni. He was a great middle order bat and a chaser." in my post ? I've said it a few times before, I'll say it again. Dhoni makes my all time World ODI XI as Wk-Bat ahead of Gilchrist for the fact that great consistent late middle order batsmen are at a premium. <<< I dislike Dhoni's batting contribution in the present times, and another WK-Bat (Pant or even Karthik) should have been tried in the last 1 year to see if it brought more value or a different dynamic to the team. If it didn't workout, we could have always gone back to Dhoni. >>> Stupid stat. I should have rephrased it as 'stupid way to look at a stat'. I mean out of those 46 not outs, 20 of them could be Dhoni remaining not out for less than 10 runs. There could have been 15 other matches where he scored 50+, and got out at the cusp of a win. The former useless contributions goes into that stat but the latter useful contributions do not. Better stat would be the total runs and average while chasing and in wins. There's no doubt Dhoni would have great numbers at that. The dig was not aimed at Dhoni but the very specific way in which a stat was pulled out. Stayed Not Out to Games Won ratio should be similar for most top 6 batters. Will try to pull out that kind of a stat tomorrow. speedheat 1 Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 The biggest problem with "Indian fans" on this forum is that they are fans of players more than the Indian cricket team. If you are a true Indian fan, then you should love Indian cricket infinitely more than any player - be it Tendulkar, Dhoni, Kohli or whoever. Unfortunately, our greats have an embarrassing history of overstaying and ruining their legacies. Kapil Dev stayed on to trundle to break Hadlee's record; Tendulkar prevented a young player from taking up the whites at number 4 just so he could get to 200 tests and we had everyone concerned bending over backwards to accommodate him by shortening a test series in SA so that he could score some cheap runs against a useless WI team at home. Now Dhoni - looks like a tail-ender when he bats; sucks up all the momentum and gets out. He's done it time and time again in the last 2 years now. It is blatantly obvious that his time is up. This middle order will definitely cost us the WC and we may even lose our WC streak to our useless parosi team if Dhoni and co. stink up the middle order. Dhoni should just do the honourable thing and f-off. He has been a great servant to Indian cricket and has done a lot for us over the years, but time is up man. 37, will be close to 38 during the WC. Enough of the torture already. Stats such as the ones in the OP are great to appreciate what MS has done for us over the years, but at a time like this they mean nothing. UrmiSinhaRay, jusarrived, Switchblade and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment
velu Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 11 hours ago, philcric said: What a stupid stat. Very unlikely a non-minnow team loses a match chasing while a top 6 batter still at the crease. Happens very rarely. A chasing team usually loses an ODI game when it's top and middle order gets out. The stats will be similar to most top 6 batsmen of any good ODI sides like Ind, Aus, SA. PS: Nothing against Dhoni. He was a great middle order bat and a chaser. perhaps kevin peterson bhai was missing something which you didnt miss any similar stats from you for other #5 , #6 batters ? sscomp32 and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, philcric said: Did you not see "Nothing against Dhoni. He was a great middle order bat and a chaser." in my post ? I've said it a few times before, I'll say it again. Dhoni makes my all time World ODI XI as Wk-Bat ahead of Gilchrist for the fact that great consistent late middle order batsmen are at a premium. <<< I dislike Dhoni's batting contribution in the present times, and another WK-Bat (Pant or even Karthik) should have been tried in the last 1 year to see if it brought more value or a different dynamic to the team. If it didn't workout, we could have always gone back to Dhoni. >>> Stupid stat. I should have rephrased it as 'stupid way to look at a stat'. I mean out of those 46 not outs, 20 of them could be Dhoni remaining not out for less than 10 runs. There could have been 15 other matches where he scored 50+, and got out at the cusp of a win. The former useless contributions goes into that stat but the latter useful contributions do not. Better stat would be the total runs and average while chasing and in wins. There's no doubt Dhoni would have great numbers at that. The dig was not aimed at Dhoni but the very specific way in which a stat was pulled out. Stayed Not Out to Games Won ratio should be similar for most top 6 batters. Will try to pull out that kind of a stat tomorrow. Out of those so called 48 not outs, only 28 is where Dhoni scored more than 25 runs. Only 15 innings where Dhoni scored a 50 or more. According to our @Shunya teams will die to have someone take all the credit after the top batsmen have scored most of the runs. After all our great legend already get the credit for captaincy on field instead of real captain, gets the credit for stumping much more than the bowlers who fox the batsmen, gets the credit for run outs more than the fielders for pointing. So why not give him this credit too. Even if opening batsmen score 100s, it's Dhonis 15 runs not out which wins matches Edited October 1, 2018 by CSK Fan Laaloo, UrmiSinhaRay and philcric 1 2 Link to comment
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