Hinduphobic Bollywood

[Muloghonto]

31 minutes ago, cricketrulez said:

So your hang up is that there is no equitable mechanism of social movement?

my hangup is that a religious practice that classifies people from the moment they are born, is decisively evil. 

[cricketrulez]

18 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

so you argument is about selective targetting. That is not the same as being hindu-phobic, as being hindu-phobic would require slander of hinduism instead of real focus on the real ills.

By your standards, is hollywood islamophobic due to making movies about jihadis ? yes/no please.

The light bulb finally went off huh? It is about selective targeting by bollywood which gets the goats of guys like me. 

 

given the latitude that has been given with the word islamphobia, lets give hinduphobia the same  courtesy

 

no, hollywood is not islamaphobic, becos every religion has been fair game in hollywood.

[cricketrulez]

23 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

my hangup is that a religious practice that classifies people from the moment they are born, is decisively evil. 

you need to make up your mind. you are doing the gish-gallop.

 

As an initial classification, there is nothing inherently evil about it. Ideal? no. Can hurt the society with out of scope problems? yes. 

 

 If it dictates a person to that role forever? yes. It doesn't. Given that it was probably first recorded attempt to codify society, it is a pretty first effort, considering how modern society seems to gravitate closer to that model.

[Muloghonto]

11 hours ago, cricketrulez said:

The light bulb finally went off huh? It is about selective targeting by bollywood which gets the goats of guys like me. 

Ok. So you are not arguing that Bollywood is hindu-phobic. But that it is biassed.

Hindus are 6x the population of muslims in India, 25x the population of Christians. So demographically speaking, for every 6 movies made about caste, there should be 1 for terrorism. Which i think Bollywood is maintaining. 

11 hours ago, cricketrulez said:

given the latitude that has been given with the word islamphobia, lets give hinduphobia the same  courtesy

 

no, hollywood is not islamaphobic, becos every religion has been fair game in hollywood.

But is it islamophobic to show jihadi terrorists ? 

[Muloghonto]

11 hours ago, cricketrulez said:

you need to make up your mind. you are doing the gish-gallop.

 

As an initial classification, there is nothing inherently evil about it. Ideal? no. Can hurt the society with out of scope problems? yes. 

Yes, it is inherently evil to classify people as lower class or upper class based on birth. 

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 If it dictates a person to that role forever? yes. It doesn't. Given that it was probably first recorded attempt to codify society, it is a pretty first effort, considering how modern society seems to gravitate closer to that model.

It does, in practice, in a society where upward mobility requires literacy (to be a brahmin) and is present in ~6-10% of society. Modern society does not allocate status on religious basis right from birth.

 

 

Its hinduism's overly codified society that has f*cked Indian civilization, by regressing its trades and sciences. Its no coincidence that Buddhism and Jainism both criticize Brahmanism for its caste locked-in status as their major impetus of popularity circa 500s/400s BC, spread rapidly and cause the golden age of Indian civilization, with the Bhakti movement's resurgence around 600s AD sees India decline further and further, to the point where the Rajput idiots were using wooden stirrups against the iron ones used by the Ghurids and Ghaznavids.

Its because when society is religiously codified into stratas, with a very narrow sanctioned scope of advancement, it utterly stagnates and falls behind. We have evidence of both the growth spurt of Indic civilization happening with weakening of the Brahmanical ideology (400s BC-600s AD) and stagnating with the resurgence of it. This is empiric historic proof, really.

 

Modern society does NOT codify people by birth. Any system that codifies people on the basis of lineage, from birth, is by default, an inferior system as putting up extra barriers to meritocracy. Its just that simple. 
A person having null status from birth, starts at zero. Person having lower caste status, starts with a negative score that they have to overcome. Its by default an inferior system. The attempt to codify Indian society was done by Brahmins out of self interest, nothing more. 

 

Edited November 18, 2018 by Muloghonto

[cricketrulez]

9 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Ok. So you are not arguing that Bollywood is hindu-phobic. But that it is biassed.

Hindus are 6x the population of muslims in India, 25x the population of Christians. So demographically speaking, for every 6 movies made about caste, there should be 1 for terrorism. Which i think Bollywood is maintaining. 

But is it islamophobic to show jihadi terrorists ? 

• Does it blame islamic teaching for terrosim?  if not you are full of ****.
• so now its about proportionality of population? by that logic shouldn't the no of actors and artists in bollywood be controlled too? is that happening
• if it tatcks isalm while ignoring tth efact that same god advocated genicide ~700 years before and ignores catholic churches atocities, and the chruhs role in aprtheid, yes it is. but I've aleady clarified that they don;t. You are knocking a strawman and you now it. you just lack integrity

 

 

 

 

[cricketrulez]

9 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Yes, it is inherently evil to classify people as lower class or upper class based on birth. 

It does, in practice, in a society where upward mobility requires literacy (to be a brahmin) and is present in ~6-10% of society. Modern society does not allocate status on religious basis right from birth.

 

 

Its hinduism's overly codified society that has f*cked Indian civilization, by regressing its trades and sciences. Its no coincidence that Buddhism and Jainism both criticize Brahmanism for its caste locked-in status as their major impetus of popularity circa 500s/400s BC, spread rapidly and cause the golden age of Indian civilization, with the Bhakti movement's resurgence around 600s AD sees India decline further and further, to the point where the Rajput idiots were using wooden stirrups against the iron ones used by the Ghurids and Ghaznavids.

Its because when society is religiously codified into stratas, with a very narrow sanctioned scope of advancement, it utterly stagnates and falls behind. We have evidence of both the growth spurt of Indic civilization happening with weakening of the Brahmanical ideology (400s BC-600s AD) and stagnating with the resurgence of it. This is empiric historic proof, really.

 

Modern society does NOT codify people by birth. Any system that codifies people on the basis of lineage, from birth, is by default, an inferior system as putting up extra barriers to meritocracy. Its just that simple. 
A person having null status from birth, starts at zero. Person having lower caste status, starts with a negative score that they have to overcome. Its by default an inferior system. The attempt to codify Indian society was done by Brahmins out of self interest, nothing more. 

 

The class system didn't stop the brits from conquering the world. In fact the class system is alive and well in britain today. Try again.

[Muloghonto]

4 hours ago, cricketrulez said:

The class system didn't stop the brits from conquering the world. In fact the class system is alive and well in britain today. Try again.

The class system is inherently superior to hindu jati/varna/caste system because:

 

1. Class is not religiously determined at birth

2. there are only two classes in existence in Britain- the commoners and nobility, which is less than that in the hindu system. Since classification of humans by birth is inherently evil (and can be shown as restrictive to social development), lower # of classes is superior. 

 

Having an elite ruling class and rest of the population only stratifies administration. Which is not in effect today, so your sophistry is yet again exposed. 
However, having step-by-step codification of caste by birth in all levels of society does impact the technological and scientific development of society - which is self evident in the decline of Indic sciences and technology with the resurgence of hinduism, while the loss of dominant popularity of hinduism during the golden age directly relates to the development of Indic sciences and technologies owing to weakening of the same caste barriers due to Buddhism and Jainism. 

 

Edited November 19, 2018 by Muloghonto

[Muloghonto]

4 hours ago, cricketrulez said:

• Does it blame islamic teaching for terrosim?  if not you are full of ****.

Yet again shifting goal-posts. Show us where in the caste-focused movies specificaly blame hindu teachings for caste. 

4 hours ago, cricketrulez said:

• so now its about proportionality of population? by that logic shouldn't the no of actors and artists in bollywood be controlled too? is that happening

It is YOUR argument. If you wish to argue that something is not being represented enough, then definition of enough *has* to include proportionality. 

4 hours ago, cricketrulez said:

• if it tatcks isalm while ignoring tth efact that same god advocated genicide ~700 years before and ignores catholic churches atocities, and the chruhs role in aprtheid, yes it is. but I've aleady clarified that they don;t. You are knocking a strawman and you now it. you just lack integrity

The only one lacking integrity, is the one arguing that it is somehow wrong to draw attention to the ills of hinduism in a hindu majority country where most of the hindus in the world live and thus, suffer from the ills of hinduism. 

 

Your argument lacks consistency, since none of the movies being discussed hold hinduism to that standard. 

[Yoda-esque]

You might want to take a gander at Twitter head's latest activity

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Yoda-esque said:

You might want to take a gander at Twitter head's latest activity

Look at the explanation given by Twitter

 

 

Why do they have closed door discussions ?  Look at how beaming these sepoys are ? So proud to be self-loathing &)*&*(& they are!

Edited November 19, 2018 by coffee_rules

[dial_100]

Watched that 3rd season, Quantico infamous episode. Unbelievable. Branding indians as terrorists against Pakistani. PC is total disappointment.

 

[coffee_rules]

ANother exhibit ..Upcoming movie. Look at all Hindu gods in the backgound and Tilak!

 

Edited December 10, 2018 by coffee_rules

[Muloghonto]

53 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

ANother exhibit ..Upcoming movie. Look at all Hindu gods in the backgound and Tilak!

 

100 marks out of 100 to Bollywood for depicting the cheating, lying fortune-tellers accurately in India. Every single one of them looks like this dude, trying to legitimize their nonsense with a million hindu god/goddess pictures. 

[coffee_rules]

 

 

[diga]

5 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

 

Dhimmis can't be reformed... 

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

This isn’t Bollywood but reality 

 

 

 

 

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

[coffee_rules]

These people are notorious for negating History when it comes to erasing Hindu genocide, atrocity and suffering. Movies like Jodha Akbar showed false history and youthiyas lapped it. This story takes the cake. The man who led the 5000 Hindu massacre in Moplah Malabar during the Khilafat movement in 1921, is shown as a Muslim rebellion against the British that started the Independence movement. Even Gandhi criticized it and quit the movement after the communal killings. Hats off to Kerala leftist Hindu dhimmis. Prithviraj to make and star in Vaariyamkunnan which will glorify a genocidal maniac, sodimiser, Rapist, looter ..Variyam Kunnathu Kunjahamed who led the Muslim rebellion against not British, but Hindus.

 

 

 

[Gollum]

Not Just Aashiq Abu, Three More Filmmakers To Make Malayalam Film On Kunjahammed Haji

 

Wow, wow, wow....all being produced/directed by Muslims so we know how it is going to play out. How is this even allowed? Pretty sure one can't glorify Hitler in Israel or Europe. What next, movies to glorify Timur, Babur, Aurangzeb, Robert Clive? 

 

Is ISI financing these movies or are Gulf based jihadis doing this? Freedom fighter my ass, this SOB was like Abu Bakr Baghdadi 100 years ago. This is nothing short of an act of war against our country, and  all kafirs. 

Edited June 24, 2020 by Gollum