India XI for the 1st test at Adelaide

[Tridibans_16]

As the mickey mouse cricket comes to an end, it will be apt to say that India will feel disappointed. Man to man, India is the better team (bowling/batting perhaps not in fielding). Aussies got away at MCG and India blew a tough chance at Brisbane. Anyways, back to real cricket. 

Exactly 10 days to go. We are now scheduled to play a CAXI at SCG from 28th November in a 4 day game.

 

Come December 6th, I would like to see an Indian XI as follows: (provided no injury in the meantime)

 

1) Prithvi Shaw

        I was almost certain about backing M.Vijay as he had a good Australia tour in 2014, but I feel Australia is one place where the pitches will suit Shaw perfectly. As a strokemaker who loves bounce and carry in the wicket, he may prove to be the X factor we missed in England. Also I feel, like how Krunal and Khaleel have been backed by the management in the LOI's,  Shaw will be given a long rope. This might just release some pressure off an youngster, as he will know the team backs him.

 

2) K.L Rahul

      Again its 50:50 between M.Vijay/ Rahul but Vijay have been given many chances before. Rahul being the younger and more talented one, I feel he should be persisted with. Atleast for the first 2 tests. If he fails to deliver, his place may be up for grabs after this series.

 

3) Cheteshwar Pujara

4) Virat Kohli

5) Ajinkya Rahane

    Perhaps our best bat in away conditions after Kohli. Needs to be given chances in Australia ahead of Sharma anyway looking at their past performances in OZ land in 2014.

 

Now comes the tricky part. Adelaide will be a flat deck. As its not a day night test, evening swing under lights is not an issue. Hence we might need the extra bowler. I know many ICFers will choose Rohit over Rahul/ Shaw but I feel Adelaide is not the place to be selecting him. Also, as Pandya is injured and Jadeja will hardly bring anything to the table (1 spinner is enough at Adelaide), I think we need 5 genuine bowlers.

 

6) Rishabh Pant

 

7) Bhubaneshwar Kumar  

      He might not be effective after the new ball spell as in Australia you need hit the deck bowers, but we need his batting given we are a batsman short and without a genuine allrounder.

 

8) Kuldeep Yadav

    Leg spinners have always been more effective in Australia than Offies. Be it McGill, Warne or Kumble. He has also been on top of the Aussies in the T20 series. He is must in Adelaide.

 

9) Ishant Sharma

    This could be the series that defines his career. Has been a constant performer for us in the last 3 years. Even in England, he bowled well. He has the ability to bowl the back of a length ball most suited to Aussie pitches.

 

10) Moh. Shami

   I will prefer him above Yadav. Yadav has improved a lot and might get a game at Perth or MCG but upfront, Shami should be given the go ahead. Also, as Bhuvi is in the XI (not much effective with the old ball), Shami might balance it out with his reverse swing and yorkers with the older ball.

 

11) Jaspreet Bumrah

   Perhaps the only bowler to have a sure shot selection at Adelaide.

 

     The above might be controversial with many ICFers as I have selected 5 batsmen, 1 wk and 5 bowelers but the thing is , we don't have an all rounder. Heck, not even a batsman who can bowl (like Sachin/ Ganguly/ Yuvi). Also, traditionally our batters have performed well in Australia but we always struggled to pick up 20 wickets. 5 bowlers is a must this time. If 5 genuine batters can't score 350, neither will the 6th batsman.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Shaw

Rahul

Pujara

Kohli 

Rahane

Vihari

Pant

Ashwin 

Shami 

Ishant

Bumrah

[Tridibans_16]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Shaw

Rahul

Pujara

Kohli 

Rahane

Vihari

Pant

Ashwin 

Shami 

Ishant

Bumrah

Ashwin will be useless in Australia. Just like Khaleel has been in the T20s even after being given 3 matches. Also, it will be tough in the Aussie sun and flat deck with only 4 bowlers, if 1 bowler gets injured or has an off day.

[Jamadagni]

Good luck winning even one match with that lower order. 

[zen]

Without Pandya 

 

1st test 

 

Shaw

KL (?) - potentially a weak link

Pujara

Kohli

Vihari

Rahane / Rohit (?) - potentially a weak link 

Pant 

Umesh / Bhuvi / Spinner (?) - potentially a weak link 

Shami 

Ishant / Umesh 

Bumrah 

 

Edited November 26, 2018 by zen

[prasen82]

Shaw

Murali Vijay.. KL back up

Pujara

Kohli

Rahane/Vihari

Pant

Ashwin

Kuldeep.. Umesh back up

Shami.. BK back up

Ishant

Bumrah

 

I would not choose bhuvi unless Umesh is total crap.

[putrevus]

22 minutes ago, Tridibans_16 said:

As the mickey mouse cricket comes to an end, it will be apt to say that India will feel disappointed. Man to man, India is the better team (bowling/batting perhaps not in fielding). Aussies got away at MCG and India blew a tough chance at Brisbane. Anyways, back to real cricket. 

Exactly 10 days to go. We are now scheduled to play a CAXI at SCG from 28th November in a 4 day game.

 

Come December 6th, I would like to see an Indian XI as follows: (provided no injury in the meantime)

 

1) Prithvi Shaw

        I was almost certain about backing M.Vijay as he had a good Australia tour in 2014, but I feel Australia is one place where the pitches will suit Shaw perfectly. As a strokemaker who loves bounce and carry in the wicket, he may prove to be the X factor we missed in England. Also I feel, like how Krunal and Khaleel have been backed by the management in the LOI's,  Shaw will be given a long rope. This might just release some pressure off an youngster, as he will know the team backs him.

 

2) K.L Rahul

      Again its 50:50 between M.Vijay/ Rahul but Vijay have been given many chances before. Rahul being the younger and more talented one, I feel he should be persisted with. Atleast for the first 2 tests. If he fails to deliver, his place may be up for grabs after this series.

 

3) Cheteshwar Pujara

4) Virat Kohli

5) Ajinkya Rahane

    Perhaps our best bat in away conditions after Kohli. Needs to be given chances in Australia ahead of Sharma anyway looking at their past performances in OZ land in 2014.

 

Now comes the tricky part. Adelaide will be a flat deck. As its not a day night test, evening swing under lights is not an issue. Hence we might need the extra bowler. I know many ICFers will choose Rohit over Rahul/ Shaw but I feel Adelaide is not the place to be selecting him. Also, as Pandya is injured and Jadeja will hardly bring anything to the table (1 spinner is enough at Adelaide), I think we need 5 genuine bowlers.

 

6) Rishabh Pant

 

7) Bhubaneshwar Kumar  

      He might not be effective after the new ball spell as in Australia you need hit the deck bowers, but we need his batting given we are a batsman short and without a genuine allrounder.

 

8) Kuldeep Yadav

    Leg spinners have always been more effective in Australia than Offies. Be it McGill, Warne or Kumble. He has also been on top of the Aussies in the T20 series. He is must in Adelaide.

 

9) Ishant Sharma

    This could be the series that defines his career. Has been a constant performer for us in the last 3 years. Even in England, he bowled well. He has the ability to bowl the back of a length ball most suited to Aussie pitches.

 

10) Moh. Shami

   I will prefer him above Yadav. Yadav has improved a lot and might get a game at Perth or MCG but upfront, Shami should be given the go ahead. Also, as Bhuvi is in the XI (not much effective with the old ball), Shami might balance it out with his reverse swing and yorkers with the older ball.

 

11) Jaspreet Bumrah

   Perhaps the only bowler to have a sure shot selection at Adelaide.

 

     The above might be controversial with many ICFers as I have selected 5 batsmen, 1 wk and 5 bowelers but the thing is , we don't have an all rounder. Heck, not even a batsman who can bowl (like Sachin/ Ganguly/ Yuvi). Also, traditionally our batters have performed well in Australia but we always struggled to pick up 20 wickets. 5 bowlers is a must this time. If 5 genuine batters can't score 350, neither will the 6th batsman.

Excellent , this would be my choice for first test too.Ashwin does not deserve to be picked ahead of Kuldeep.Kuldeep can win match on his own on this ground.

[Clarke]

Shaw

Rahul 

Pujara

Kohli 

Rahane

Vihari

Pant

Jadeja/Kuldeep

Shami

Ishant

Bumrah

 

I'm done with Ashwin while touring after that 4th Eng test. Even if it's a green top, Bhuvi is bowling slower than usual and he doesn't look in top form/fitness to emulate Philander type performances in appropriate conditions.

[Ankit_sharma03]

22 minutes ago, Tridibans_16 said:

Ashwin will be useless in Australia. Just like Khaleel has been in the T20s even after being given 3 matches. Also, it will be tough in the Aussie sun and flat deck with only 4 bowlers, if 1 bowler gets injured or has an off day.

Lets c, last time kuldeep played a test abroad he was struggling to even land the ball 

thats why m playing vihari....we shud have selected shankar and we didnt 

 

Bk with his bowling form , i dnt want him in XI ..

[Tridibans_16]

Everyone who are selecting 4 bowlers, please consider this...

 

We don't have even 1 batting allrounder. Not even someone like Sehwag who can bend his arm for a couple of overs. Playing 4 bowlers is suicide in Australia unless you have Ambrose/ Walsh or Waqar/ Wasim in your lineup.

 

In all our previous tours, except perhaps 1999-2000, our batsmen scored centuries. But our bowlers hardly ever took 20 wickets.

[putrevus]

BK should be played as all rounder.I don't think he would be worse than Hardik.

[prasen82]

2 minutes ago, Tridibans_16 said:

Everyone who are selecting 4 bowlers, please consider this...

 

We don't have even 1 batting allrounder. Not even someone like Sehwag who can bend his arm for a couple of overs. Playing 4 bowlers is suicide in Australia unless you have Ambrose/ Walsh or Waqar/ Wasim in your lineup.

 

In all our previous tours, except perhaps 1999-2000, our batsmen scored centuries. But our bowlers hardly ever took 20 wickets.

Maybe you are right.  Need 4 pacers and 1 spinner. Can kuldeep have control for entire test? Leave apart bumrah no wicket taking pacer. If siraj was there we could have gone for siraj, bumrah, ishant and BK and kuldeep on flat pitches and replace kuldeep with Jadeja if he fails later.

 

I wanted ashwin but realized that Jadeja has been better in recent past, so can swap Ash with jadeja.

[zen]

10 minutes ago, Tridibans_16 said:

Everyone who are selecting 4 bowlers, please consider this...

 

We don't have even 1 batting allrounder. Not even someone like Sehwag who can bend his arm for a couple of overs. Playing 4 bowlers is suicide in Australia unless you have Ambrose/ Walsh or Waqar/ Wasim in your lineup.

 

In all our previous tours, except perhaps 1999-2000, our batsmen scored centuries. But our bowlers hardly ever took 20 wickets.

Good in theory but the 5th bowler usually bowls 8-10 overs so difficult to justify playing one in the absence of an AR  in overseas conditions where if Kohli gets a score below 50, Ind could potentially struggle with the bat

[putrevus]

if BK played instead of Hardik in England things would have been different.

[Tridibans_16]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

if BK played instead of Hardik in England things would have been different.

BK is a double edged sword. He will be good upfront and with the 2nd new ball. But after 20-25 overs, he will be a liability as he lacks pace.

 

But what tips the scale to his favour is his batting. Without Pandya, after Pant we have a long long tail. He can contribute 20-30 runs with the bat and atleast gives us a chance to fight with our tail.

[Tridibans_16]

6 minutes ago, zen said:

Good in theory but the 5th bowler usually bowls 8-10 overs so difficult to justify playing one in the absence of an AR  in overseas conditions where if Kohli gets a score below 50, Ind could potentially struggle with the bat

Well Pandya was our 5th bowler and he actually won us a test in England. Also, if 6 batsmen fail to deliver in both innings, the 7th batsman will hardly be of any use. It is not as if we are benching Laxman or Ganguly. Vihari is yet to perform at this level. Sharma, the less said the better.

[zen]

24 minutes ago, Tridibans_16 said:

Well Pandya was our 5th bowler and he actually won us a test in England. Also, if 6 batsmen fail to deliver in both innings, the 7th batsman will hardly be of any use. It is not as if we are benching Laxman or Ganguly. Vihari is yet to perform at this level. Sharma, the less said the better.

I understand but as I said without an AR, which Pandya is, it is difficult to justify playing the 5th specialist bowler overseas for 8-10 overs  .... Better option is to play the 4 best bowlers as per form and conditions, along with fitness .... we have to assume that at least a couple of batsmen will click 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2018 by zen

[Lannister]

If the pitch doesn't help spinners, this will be my X1;

 

KL

Shaw

Pujara

Kohli

Rahane

Vihari (Can bowl off-spin)

Pant

Umesh

Shami

Ishant

Bumrah

 

If it helps spinners, then the one mentioned in the OP looks good. 

 

[putrevus]

15 minutes ago, Tridibans_16 said:

BK is a double edged sword. He will be good upfront and with the 2nd new ball. But after 20-25 overs, he will be a liability as he lacks pace.

 

But what tips the scale to his favour is his batting. Without Pandya, after Pant we have a long long tail. He can contribute 20-30 runs with the bat and atleast gives us a chance to fight with our tail.

BK just needs to do something with new  ball and bat sensibly which he will do unlike Pandya you know what you can expect from BK. I wish they would see BK sees himseld as long term option in that role.He will do far better than Pandya.If they had played BK instead of Pandya in all SA and England things would have been very different. 

[CSK Fan]

28 minutes ago, Tridibans_16 said:

BK is a double edged sword. He will be good upfront and with the 2nd new ball. But after 20-25 overs, he will be a liability as he lacks pace.

 

But what tips the scale to his favour is his batting. Without Pandya, after Pant we have a long long tail. He can contribute 20-30 runs with the bat and atleast gives us a chance to fight with our tail.

People have made these post 25 overs claims every single time.and BK has taken wickets with the old ball and even reversed every single time. Just check the score cards