beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Tendulkar's decision is not as big as this one due to the fact everybody else other than these 3 are absolute duds. Jemima is still developing. Kaur and Mandana are high risk takers. Rest are complete joke. So obviously it was a huge blunder to drop her. Also the opener they replaced Mithali was like a tailender. It made no sense whatsoever. Logically , strategically in everywhich way that was stupid move even assuming Mithali has a gigantic ego. Kohli has more ego than anyone else. Just because of that we cannot drop him. Kohli is the captain. The argument is not about if the decision was good or bad...it looks more bad than good in hindsight. The argument is about the drama being created because a superstar was being asked to sit out a match for whatever reason. This is why we have superstars scewing the team because dropping them creates too much drama . The bcci should be asking about logic behind the move( that failed) rather than the dropping of a superstar. She has an ego....but Harman doesn't? Why did she not blast her manager publicly for talking **** against the current captain? How is Harman supposed to play with someone whose manager calls the captain selfish and manipulative? Bcci should only have asked Powar for explanation and not given Mithali an excuse to create drama. They should also find out who leaked the letter . AuxiliA and sandeep 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, putrevus said: This superstar and I am entitled egos have to removed from teams all togther. Nobody is bigger than the team. Her manager was also spouting all nonsense about captain.Pawar look like guy with right ideas. Kapil, Sachin and now Dhoni became bigger than the team itself which is so wrong. You think Kohli, Dhawan have no ego. Or Sehwag/Gambhir had no ego when they played? Nobody is bigger than game. That includes coach. You make the best call. When the match started nobody knew anything about it. But everyone was surprised including commies about dropping of Mithali. I am only looking at it from cricketing perspective not from the view of a coach who may or may not be entirely truthful about the situation. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, beetle said: So what.....superstars and their positions can't be touched? Nope. In the Chappel school of coaching, creating mistrust in the team during the middle of a global tournament is the best way to get best results. If Mithali was to bat in the middle order, will you not try that in the run up to the world cup? Who makes such drastic changes in the plan during the world cup? Coach's report to board says Tamanna Bhatiya and Veda Krishnamurthy were hitting the ball so well! That is terrible game reading. Tamanna Bhatia can't hit the ball beyond 30 yard circle (and averages 9 in T20 matches), Veda averages 18. These are the players coach was preferring ahead of a batswoman in form! UrmiSinhaRay and kirkutfan 1 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: You think Kohli, Dhawan have no ego. Or Sehwag/Gambhir had no ego when they played? Nobody is bigger than game. That includes coach. You make the best call. When the match started nobody knew anything about it. But everyone was surprised including commies about dropping of Mithali. I am only looking at it from cricketing perspective not from the view of a coach who may or may not be entirely truthful about the situation. True about the ego. Unfortunately the people encourage such egos in these players. The coach and the management could be wrong . There could be truth in Diana beibg involved. There could be this and that and these things should be investigated by bcci. Not the dropping of a superstars because it should be fine to drop a star if the management can justify it for the team. Why was the move made should be the question and not why was Mithali ( the star) dropped and how she was made to feel depressed and deflated. Link to comment
kirkutfan Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Mithali is someone who has been playing this game at the highest level since she was a teenager when there was no attention paid to the game. She got us to two World Cup finals, test matches against England against all odds. And she is supposed to be the selfish one? Bull. That two bit coach in Romesh Powar is lying to protect himself from embarrassment. Besides, he is an absolute zero at communication. A better coach would have explained his strategy before the World Cup began and explained the role he had in mind for each player, including Mithali Raj. If she then wanted to protest, the coach should have just said that this was her choice and let her know that he would respect her choice. I bet she would have come around. Instead, the clown was insecure, felt above all things “blackmailed”, and just shut down communication with India’s best player. Face it the guy is an idiot. There have to be better options for coach. I hope they don’t renew his contract. Time for someone with better communication skills, and better strategies. Vilander and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Nope. In the Chappel school of coaching, creating mistrust in the team during the middle of a global tournament is the best way to get best results. If Mithali was to bat in the middle order, will you not try that in the run up to the world cup? Who makes such drastic changes in the plan during the world cup? Coach's report to board says Tamanna Bhatiya and Veda Krishnamurthy were hitting the ball so well! That is terrible game reading. Tamanna Bhatia can't hit the ball beyond 30 yard circle (and averages 9 in T20 matches), Veda averages 18. These are the players coach was preferring ahead of a batswoman in form! They tried her in the middle order in a not so important match . The opener did not do well in one match.They should have carried on with that in the next match and given the player another chance . Mithali went over the captain and the coach and talked to the selector and got her opener slot back.That speaks a lot about the star culture. Why could Mithali not wait for a few matches for the experiment to be tried out? How is the management supposed to try something if superstars can't be touched without them going over their head to get decisions reversed? Why is the TM not siding with her? Why are the players not siding with her? Edited November 29, 2018 by beetle sandeep 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, kirkutfan said: Mithali is someone who has been playing this game at the highest level since she was a teenager when there was no attention paid to the game. She got us to two World Cup finals, test matches against England against all odds. And she is supposed to be the selfish one? Bull. That two bit coach in Romesh Powar is lying to protect himself from embarrassment. Besides, he is an absolute zero at communication. A better coach would have explained his strategy before the World Cup began and explained the role he had in mind for each player, including Mithali Raj. If she then wanted to protest, the coach should have just said that this was her choice and let her know that he would respect her choice. I bet she would have come around. Instead, the clown was insecure, felt above all things “blackmailed”, and just shut down communication with India’s best player. Face it the guy is an idiot. There have to be better options for coach. I hope they don’t renew his contract. Time for someone with better communication skills, and better strategies. Agree with the coach not having managed it well. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, beetle said: Kohli is the captain. The argument is not about if the decision was good or bad...it looks more bad than good in hindsight. The argument is about the drama being created because a superstar was being asked to sit out a match for whatever reason. This is why we have superstars scewing the team because dropping them creates too much drama . The bcci should be asking about logic behind the move( that failed) rather than the dropping of a superstar. She has an ego....but Harman doesn't? Why did she not blast her manager publicly for talking **** against the current captain? How is Harman supposed to play with someone whose manager calls the captain selfish and manipulative? Bcci should only have asked Powar for explanation and not given Mithali an excuse to create drama. They should also find out who leaked the letter . Clearly some politics is going on. But you don't drop player based on "grudge" "ego". You pick the best XI available and worry about disciplining the player later in an appropriate way. philcric, The Dark Horse, UrmiSinhaRay and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 This Mithali seems to be a diva. Does she have kids? If it was her male counterpart there would be 20 cute videos of her playing with her kid on Instagram and 50 odd pointless memes proclaiming her greatness. beetle, Jimmy Cliff and philcric 3 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, kirkutfan said: Mithali is someone who has been playing this game at the highest level since she was a teenager when there was no attention paid to the game. She got us to two World Cup finals, test matches against England against all odds. And she is supposed to be the selfish one? Bull. That two bit coach in Romesh Powar is lying to protect himself from embarrassment. Besides, he is an absolute zero at communication. A better coach would have explained his strategy before the World Cup began and explained the role he had in mind for each player, including Mithali Raj. If she then wanted to protest, the coach should have just said that this was her choice and let her know that he would respect her choice. I bet she would have come around. Instead, the clown was insecure, felt above all things “blackmailed”, and just shut down communication with India’s best player. Face it the guy is an idiot. There have to be better options for coach. I hope they don’t renew his contract. Time for someone with better communication skills, and better strategies. Exactly lol This guy was a moron as a player. Who thought he would make a great coach. An unfit guy even as a player. We have all these clowns even in men's cricket. Prasad, Ravi Bot UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: This Mithali seems to be a diva. Does she have kids? If it was her male counterpart there would be 20 cute videos of her playing with her kid on Instagram and 50 odd pointless memes proclaiming her greatness. You don't like Sakshi bhabhi.. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Clearly some politics is going on. But you don't drop player based on "grudge" "ego". You pick the best XI available and worry about disciplining the player later in an appropriate way. True. That should be investigated . UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, beetle said: You don't like Sakshi bhabhi.. I don’t care about bhabhi, I want bhayya’s torture to end :) Edited November 29, 2018 by Global.Baba UrmiSinhaRay, The Dark Horse and beetle 1 1 1 Link to comment
ssurenn Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 UrmiSinhaRay and The Dark Horse 1 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, ssurenn said: the egotistical Ganguly at his best. sandeep, beetle and UrmiSinhaRay 1 2 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, ssurenn said: At his peak? Really ? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 https://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket/opinion-bcci-coa-powerplay-compounds-unsavoury-mithali-harmanpreet-row/story-aTdk4EQpSvvAkbAD8HZ05L_amp.html OPINION | BCCI-COA powerplay compounds unsavoury Mithali-Harmanpreet row UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 LOL. Best team was ousted of tournament. My neighbour (cricket team collegue) was making fun of me. And I see icfers supporting Fatso Powar and CoA. IMO, CoA has done nothing but to damage Indian cricket not because they want to, but because are inept, politically naive, and easily manupulated by smart people with business interest. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
ssurenn Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 minute ago, ssurenn said: Thats nothing but pure lie. Blackmail is very strong word. Powar broke the "team" right before they went into a crunch match. Team means Team. If there is no teamwork you are doomed. You can not win matches individually. Powar must be fired UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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