Changes in the Indian test team after this series to make it even stronger

[vayuu1]

Openers :shaw, mayank, panchal

Middle order :che, Kohli, vihari, gill

Keeper :pant, saha, bharat

Allrounder :pandya, dubey, Shankar 

Spinner :ash, jaddu, Kuldeep, Chahar

Pacers :Bumrah, shami, ishant, ankit, avesh, mavi, Siraj and Chaudhary. 

[R.D forever]

Openers - Don't stop with Shaw and Mayank. Include 2 backups and rotate the openers in home series so that we have 4 good openers for next overseas season. Maybe Mukund and Rahul??

 

3,4 - Fixed

 

5 - Same logic. Try Rahane Gill and other domestic performers.  Have 4 players ready for this position

 

6 - Stop looking for seam bowling all-rounder. We don't have any now. Maybe try Vijay shanker for some time. No 6 should be a specialist batsman who can bowl a bit of spin. We can get lots of batting all-rounders like these in India. 

 

Seamers - Rotate the current lot. They won't have much work in India anyways

 

Spinners. Put Ashwin on a diet FFS. Very important for the home season. Ashwin Kaddi Kuldeep Vihari can clean up any side in India

 

Keeper -  Pant with samson and Dk in mix

[sarcastic]

2 hours ago, ShebbySB said:

Openers:- Shaw,Mayank as first choice.Priyank Panchal as reserve opener.

Time to axe Vijay for good and KL for now at least.

Middle-order batsman:- Pujara,Kohli & Vihari as first choice.Bring in Shubman Gill.

Drop Rohit and play him in LOIs only. Rahane should go back to domestics

to find his mojo.He's a shadow of his previous self.

WK/Batsman:- Pant deserves a longer run.Saha should be the reserve keeper

when he's fit.

Seam bowling all-rounder:- Don't have anyone except Hardik for now.

Spinner:- Ashwin,Jadeja,Kuldeep.

Seamers:- Bumrah,Shami,Ishant,BK + 1 from the barrage of exciting seamers we

have in domestics.My choice is Rajpoot for now.Drop useless Umesh.

Rohit Sharma is not that bad in some kind of pitches. His LOI exploits will always put him in contention for a test spot. 

[Vilander]

3 hours ago, mancalledsting said:

Ashwin to continue on ketogenic diet/intermittent fasting

this.. time for some Srinath type intervention, farking put some muscle on the guy..wtf 

[mishra]

I dont want to see the positive batmen or ones with intent namely Rahul, Murali, Rohit, Ajinkya anywhere near test team.

 

Those supporting Ajinkya just need to watch last few innings of his. Most of his runs came from ball in the air over point, gully slip region. Please send all these super bats back into limited over

[Vijy]

4 hours ago, ShebbySB said:

Openers:- Shaw,Mayank as first choice.Priyank Panchal as reserve opener.

Time to axe Vijay for good and KL for now at least.

Middle-order batsman:- Pujara,Kohli & Vihari as first choice.Bring in Shubman Gill.

Drop Rohit and play him in LOIs only. Rahane should go back to domestics

to find his mojo.He's a shadow of his previous self.

WK/Batsman:- Pant deserves a longer run.Saha should be the reserve keeper

when he's fit.

Seam bowling all-rounder:- Don't have anyone except Hardik for now.

Spinner:- Ashwin,Jadeja,Kuldeep.

Seamers:- Bumrah,Shami,Ishant,BK + 1 from the barrage of exciting seamers we

have in domestics.My choice is Rajpoot for now.Drop useless Umesh.

agree with most. we need one more wrist-spinner for the future IMO. Gopal is a candidate.

 

What we lack for the time being is a strong Nos. 5 and 6, as well as pace all-rounders.

[ShoonyaSifar]

A lot depends on two events - IPL and WC. Say Rahul tops the IPL charts and has a decent WC (highly unlikely) will he be out of Test contention? Ditto with Rohit and even Dhawan. All these failures would be past by then.

 

Three players at maximum risk would be Vijay (perhaps career over), Rahane and Ashwin. I am tempted to put even Bhuvi in that list, if he cannot get a game in 4 tests in Australia, is he good enough? Ishant will start to fade away as well now that he’s back playing IPL. Umesh may stay around but will gradually get confined to IPL. Parthiv Patel anyways was a bad pick, should have sent another young keeper to Australia.

 

So the pool could potentially look like 

Openers - Shaw, Mayank (and perhaps Rahul)

MO - Pujara, Kohli, Vihari, Rohit (), Gill

Keepers - Pant and Bharat/Kishan

Spinners - Jadeja, Kuldeep, Ashwin (only if fit)

Pacers - Bumrah, Shami, Siraj, Rajpoot/Aniket (like to like replacement for Ishant, tall 85 mph bowlers)

 

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, R.D forever said:

Openers - Don't stop with Shaw and Mayank. Include 2 backups and rotate the openers in home series so that we have 4 good openers for next overseas season. Maybe Mukund and Rahul??

 

3,4 - Fixed

 

5 - Same logic. Try Rahane Gill and other domestic performers.  Have 4 players ready for this position

 

6 - Stop looking for seam bowling all-rounder. We don't have any now. Maybe try Vijay shanker for some time. No 6 should be a specialist batsman who can bowl a bit of spin. We can get lots of batting all-rounders like these in India. 

  

Seamers - Rotate the current lot. They won't have much work in India anyways

 

Spinners. Put Ashwin on a diet FFS. Very important for the home season. Ashwin Kaddi Kuldeep Vihari can clean up any side in India

 

Keeper -  Pant with samson and Dk in mix

shankar is not an all-rounder for long format. he is a sub-ganguly level bowler. averages over 50 with the ball in FC.

[sourab10forever]

Kuch nahi hone wala

[JourneyMan]

Surprising as it sounds the key concern for India in the near future is to have a world class spinner. We had Kumble, Bhajji and Ashwin but I don't see anyone filling their shoes. 

[prudent_kreeda]

7 hours ago, ShebbySB said:

Openers:- Shaw,Mayank as first choice.Priyank Panchal as reserve opener.

Time to axe Vijay for good and KL for now at least.

Middle-order batsman:- Pujara,Kohli & Vihari as first choice.Bring in Shubman Gill.

Drop Rohit and play him in LOIs only. Rahane should go back to domestics

to find his mojo.He's a shadow of his previous self.

WK/Batsman:- Pant deserves a longer run.Saha should be the reserve keeper

when he's fit.

Seam bowling all-rounder:- Don't have anyone except Hardik for now.

Spinner:- Ashwin,Jadeja,Kuldeep.

Seamers:- Bumrah,Shami,Ishant,BK + 1 from the barrage of exciting seamers we

have in domestics.My choice is Rajpoot for now.Drop useless Umesh.

      I think we should move on. K Bharat should be reserve WK.

[Vijy]

4 hours ago, JourneyMan said:

Surprising as it sounds the key concern for India in the near future is to have a world class spinner. We had Kumble, Bhajji and Ashwin but I don't see anyone filling their shoes. 

None of them were very effective outside home, except for kumble towards late career in patches. at home, jaddu is almost as good as this trio you mentioned - he is fit enough, and just turned 30. can serve indian team for 5-6 yrs if form does not desert him. I also feel we have decent wrist-spinners who are around. kuldeep is one candidate, but gopal needs more Ind A exposure. problem is that he does not bowl enough for karnataka. among youngsters - rahul chahar has amazing talent, and is doing well in domestics. zeeshan ansari may also develop at some later stage.

 

my biggest concern would be off-spinners. the best off-spinner in the past few yrs in Ranjis is Jalaj Saxena (who also bats well), and Rasool has also done well. but, they are mostly ignored by selectors - have not seen them bowl, but maybe they are domestic giants who are not int'l class. we need to look for young offies to replace ashwin. likes of sundar and gani are nowhere near ashwin's ability.

[diga]

5 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

      I think we should move on. K Bharat should be reserve WK.

Bharat's keeping is unproven on spin wkts.. he mostly plays on swinging Vijaywada wkts which has true bounce.

[Vijy]

48 minutes ago, diga said:

Bharat's keeping is unproven on spin wkts.. he mostly plays on swinging Vijaywada wkts which has true bounce.

saw him keep in some match where there was a lot of turn. seems like a decent keeper to me, but he is not really saha-level. his batting was promising initially, but has fallen off. seems to be rediscovering some touches as of late.

[Tendulkar1996]

Shaw

Mayank

Pujara

Kohli

Gill

Vihari

Pant

Jadeja

Ashwin/Kuldeep/ishant

Shami

Bumrah

 

Reserves -

New 3rd opener until rahul can get his mojo back(NOT dhawan)

Rohit

Siraj

Bhuvi

Umesh

Pandya

Saha

Edited January 4, 2019 by Tendulkar1996

[ShebbySB]

19 hours ago, Vijy said:

agree with most. we need one more wrist-spinner for the future IMO. Gopal is a candidate.

 

What we lack for the time being is a strong Nos. 5 and 6, as well as pace all-rounders.

Hope Dubey,Mavi and Nagarkoti evolve into pace bowling all-rounders.All of them are young and exciting.

[ShebbySB]

16 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

      I think we should move on. K Bharat should be reserve WK.

Agree.

[ShebbySB]

21 hours ago, sarcastic said:

Rohit Sharma is not that bad in some kind of pitches. His LOI exploits will always put him in contention for a test spot. 

Time to give Gill a go.Specially after looking at the fixtures of 2019.

[Vijy]

3 hours ago, ShebbySB said:

Hope Dubey,Mavi and Nagarkoti evolve into pace bowling all-rounders.All of them are young and exciting.

dubey's form is already falling off. mavi and nagarkoti are, as of now, bowlers who can bat.

[cowboysfan]

Who can replace Rahane?.I feel Gill is more of a top order or an opener.we need to find a replacement for Rahane because he is nearing his end in all formats.