Shami is one of the best ODI pacer in Indian cricket and yet misses out in ICC tournaments

[express bowling]

1.  Forgetting every other factor like Shami's extra pace ....

 

Shami of 2019 is a better ODI bowler than Bhuvi of 2019 

 

If it were 2017, I would have preferred Bhuvi over Shami in ODIs. 

 

2.   Most of the SA batters of the late 2010s are not that good against extra pace or extra bounce.  We saw that when we toured SA in 2018.  Every time Bumrah or Shami got extra bounce at good pace ... they struggled or got out.  

 

Even today, the SA batters were troubled quite a bit by extra bounce.

 

 

[vishalvirsingh]

Hardik and kuldeep underperformed today .

Hardik and Kedar together can be our fifth bowler.

Play 3 Pacers and chahal

Kuldeep should be dropped in match.and shammi plays

[R!TTER]

5 hours ago, Hell Raiser said:

I agree that Bhuvi is better bowler at death than Shami.

That's highly debatable, with his knuckle balls he doesn't auto magically become a good bowler at death. Heck due to his lack of pace & not bowling yorkers he's barely better than Pandya!

[sandeep]

8 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

That's highly debatable, with his knuckle balls he doesn't auto magically become a good bowler at death. Heck due to his lack of pace & not bowling yorkers he's barely better than Pandya!

And with that logic Pandya is a better batsman than Kohli

[R!TTER]

What logic? Pandya is a lower order hitter, Virat is a top order bat who's also the no.1 ranked player. Rankings aside he's still better than Pandya against pace, BK is at best a green deck bowler - heck this is the reason why he's dropped on many occasions even outside India (in tests) when the wickets were flat.

Edited June 5, 2019 by R!TTER

[Trichromatic]

Bhuvi doesn't pick wickets for India, it's time that Shami is brought in. Can't have 2-3 weak links.

[CSK Fan]

On 6/5/2019 at 2:45 PM, Trichromatic said:

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Balls	Runs	Wkts	BBI	Ave	Econ	SR	4	5
JJ Bumrah	2016-2019	50	49	2505	1883	85	5/27	22.15	4.51	29.4	4	1
Mohammed Shami	2013-2019	63	62	3231	2951	113	4/35	26.11	5.48	28.5	6	0
N Kapil Dev	1978-1994	225	221	11202	6945	253	5/43	27.45	3.71	44.2	3	1
AB Agarkar	1998-2007	191	188	9484	8021	288	6/42	27.85	5.07	32.9	10	2
J Srinath	1991-2003	229	227	11935	8847	315	5/23	28.08	4.44	37.8	7	3
M Prabhakar	1984-1996	130	127	6360	4534	157	5/33	28.87	4.27	40.5	4	2
DS Mohanty	1997-2001	45	44	1996	1662	57	4/56	29.15	4.99	35.0	1	0
S Madan Lal	1974-1987	67	64	3164	2137	73	4/20	29.27	4.05	43.3	2	0
RMH Binny	1980-1987	72	67	2957	2260	77	4/29	29.35	4.58	38.4	3	0
IK Pathan	2004-2012	120	118	5855	5142	173	5/27	29.72	5.26	33.8	5	2
Z Khan	2000-2012	194	191	9815	8102	269	5/42	30.11	4.95	36.4	7	1
MM Patel	2006-2011	70	67	3154	2603	86	4/29	30.26	4.95	36.6	3	0
I Sharma	2007-2016	80	78	3733	3563	115	4/34	30.98	5.72	32.4	6	0
A Nehra	2001-2011	117	117	5637	4899	155	6/23	31.60	5.21	36.3	5	2
BKV Prasad	1994-2001	161	160	8129	6332	196	5/27	32.30	4.67	41.4	3	1
S Sreesanth	2005-2011	53	52	2476	2508	75	6/55	33.44	6.07	33.0	2	1
UT Yadav	2010-2018	75	73	3558	3565	106	4/31	33.63	6.01	33.5	4	0
RP Singh	2005-2011	58	57	2565	2343	69	4/35	33.95	5.48	37.1	2	0
C Sharma	1983-1994	65	63	2835	2336	67	3/22	34.86	4.94	42.3	0	0
B Kumar	2012-2019	106	104	5039	4209	118	5/42	35.66	5.01	42.7	3	1
P Kumar	2007-2012	68	67	3242	2774	77	4/31	36.02	5.13	42.1	3	0
SC Ganguly	1992-2007	308	170	4543	3835	100	5/16	38.35	5.06	45.4	1	2
RR Singh	1989-2001	136	117	3734	2985	69	5/22	43.26	4.79	54.1	0	2

Just like Bhuvi is India's best test bowler yet misses out on lots of series for Shami

[G_B_]

I think Bhuvi has shown his critics just how critical he can be to the Indian team

 

Was very good during the 2013 champions trophy as well.

[Vijy]

Bhuvi should be there, but I would suggest dropping Kuldeep for Shami. We lose a bit in batting and fielding, but gain more in bowling. If we need another spinner, Jadeja for Jadhav can be done.

[Vilander]

7 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Bhuvi should be there, but I would suggest dropping Kuldeep for Shami. We lose a bit in batting and fielding, but gain more in bowling. If we need another spinner, Jadeja for Jadhav can be done.

the trouble with Jadeja is , he is not much more than a tail ender in ODI batting and not much more than a part timer in ODI bowling.

 

But need Shami in for a spinner hopefully this can be done against asian sides.

[cowboysfan]

10 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Bhuvi should be there, but I would suggest dropping Kuldeep for Shami. We lose a bit in batting and fielding, but gain more in bowling. If we need another spinner, Jadeja for Jadhav can be done.

I feel we need Kuldeep to get back into form,when he is taking wickets we are unstoppable.

[R!TTER]

Better try the changes against chuckers, Shami isn't necessary against NZ & if the wickets stay like this we will need 2 spinners in the second half!

[Cricketics]

Against New Zealand I would play Kuldeep bur against Pakistan I would play Shami.

 

Kuldeep did bot bowl bad five overs. He did not let Smith and Warner attack him barrinf dew short balls.

 

He will be good to habe against Nz middle

order. Pak plays spin a bit better so we can have Shami for that but do play Kuldeep against NZ 

[Straight Drive]

It's good that Bhuvneshwar Kumar is not taking his place for granted. Wonderful over which turned the match with two wickets in an over.

 

Lucky to have Shami as an alternative as well. The pace bowling strength along with options on bench is looking awesome.

[kaptaan]

Hopefully he cements his place