coffee_rules Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Mariyam said: Wasn't it the BJP who had accused the NCP/Pawar's of being Dawood Ibrahim's representatives in Maharashtra. I think CM Fadnavis made that comment in a pre election speed. Guess the BJP are now okay with that. Waiting for BJP sophistry to justify this now. Had it been the day after the election, these questions would have been jais, but after being deceived by Thackeray, Raut right after the elections and their compromising stand with INC, their stanch rivals, this move by BJP makes it a sweet retribution. BJP - NCP were closer even in last term when they kept SS under leash, this time, SS pushed BJP to tie the nuptials with NCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 As I suspected, Bala Saahebs offspring and bloodline are no match to Pawaar power. Win win for BJP and Pawar. Biggest looser is Thackareys. I am certain that even Sena MLA’s would be cursing their leaderships ineptness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Had it been the day after the election, these questions would have been jais, but after being deceived by Thackeray, Raut right after the elections and their compromising stand with INC, their stanch rivals, this move by BJP makes it a sweet retribution. BJP - NCP were closer even in last term when they kept SS under leash, this time, SS pushed BJP to tie the nuptials with NCP. We just don't know that. Thackeray claims that it was the BJP which back stabbed him in the back by not giving him the CMs chair for 2.5 years as they had agreed to before the polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 SC to hear Sena-Cong-NCP plea at 11.30 am on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mariyam said: We just don't know that. Thackeray claims that it was the BJP which back stabbed him in the back by not giving him the CMs chair for 2.5 years as they had agreed to before the polls. They had the same demand even in the previous term, but with showing the NCP stick they had reigned in SS. This time, they had seat sharing with SS and even compromised by agree for more seats to SS. Once BJP got less than last time, they started to demand CM post. With almost 50% less seats than BJP how can even demand with a straight face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Mariyam said: We just don't know that. Thackeray claims that it was the BJP which back stabbed him in the back by not giving him the CMs chair for 2.5 years as they had agreed to before the polls. If they both win around 50-50 percent seats then that demand is justifiable but with 105-56 it's impossible. If BJP would have agreed then in many states smaller parties will demand 2.5 years of cm post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: They had the same demand even in the previous term, but with showing the NCP stick they had reigned in SS. This time, they had seat sharing with SS and even compromised by agree for more seats to SS. Once BJP got less than last time, they started to demand CM post. With almost 50% less seats than BJP how can even demand with a straight face? talk to me Gollum, The Dark Horse, coffee_rules and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Am just glad that Sena will be gone in the future.Sena vote will transfer to BJP .Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I6MTW Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Ajit Pawar now has been given a clean chit in irrigation scam by ACB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 23 hours ago, Yoda-esque said: Am just glad that Sena will be gone in the future.Sena vote will transfer to BJP . Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk not really. Sena vote will be divided so advantage is with this new trio alliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 hours ago, someone said: not really. Sena vote will be divided so advantage is with this new trio alliance. Usually Gujjus and Marathis of Mumbai are anti-congress and pro BJP (if you gujju) and pro Sena (if you marathi).. but this will push lot of marathis towards BJP.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Sanjay Raut manjreker nirupam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, veer said: Usually Gujjus and Marathis of Mumbai are anti-congress and pro BJP (if you gujju) and pro Sena (if you marathi).. but this will push lot of marathis towards BJP.. 50% marathis voted BJP alliance this election, so there are plenty of them who dont vote for BJP. SS will only lose its urban votes, while its traditional voters are all dynastic lovers. Plus it gains complete minority votes. So currently its balle balle for SS. They will also get whitewashed and be seen as messiahs of secularism.... coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 11:34 PM, coffee_rules said: They had the same demand even in the previous term, but with showing the NCP stick they had reigned in SS. This time, they had seat sharing with SS and even compromised by agree for more seats to SS. Once BJP got less than last time, they started to demand CM post. With almost 50% less seats than BJP how can even demand with a straight face? On 11/23/2019 at 11:39 PM, Singh bling said: If they both win around 50-50 percent seats then that demand is justifiable but with 105-56 it's impossible. If BJP would have agreed then in many states smaller parties will demand 2.5 years of cm post The Shiv Sena said that it wasn't a demand but a pre poll agreement between the two parties and the BJP had agreed to the share the CM's chair. But then again, they simply could be lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mariyam said: The Shiv Sena said that it wasn't a demand but a pre poll agreement between the two parties and the BJP had agreed to the share the CM's chair. But then again, they simply could be lying. Based on my links, what I can for certainity say that Shiv Sena was ready to jump ship post LS elections. Its just that BJP got a majority. There was nothing left in Alliance. If I knew that, I am sure BJP knew too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, Mariyam said: The Shiv Sena said that it wasn't a demand but a pre poll agreement between the two parties and the BJP had agreed to the share the CM's chair. But then again, they simply could be lying. Pre poll agreements are useless. The real game starts after the number of seats won by each party. I doubt if situation had been 100 for SS and 50 for BJP then SS would want full 5 years of CM term And even a common sense will tell is why will a party that ruled 5 years with CM post riding on extreme popularity wave will give up CM post for 2.5 years. Another point that goes against SS is that BJP leaders were openly saying Fadnavis as CM but Shiv Sena was silent. Why they did not tell people that there 2.5 year agreement ? someone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 looks like only option in front of fadnavis/bjp is to give some teary speech ( like yeddys speech last year ) and resign before the floor test .. now it looks like ss has more than enough support from NCP MLAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 not really. Sena vote will be divided so advantage is with this new trio alliance. BJP will break itSent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 this reminds me of how VIlasrao Deshmukh took Ritesh and Ram Gopal Verma for a tour post 26/11... God Save Maharashtra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Frankly speaking, Amit Shah Chanakya has been over-sold by MSM and even Bhakt SM. There was no need for a Ajit Pawar circus. The Aghadi will implode soon. Singh bling and velu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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