Kohli's stance against pace bowling

[vvvslaxman]

His default stance these days is standing outside the crease a foot or so. It eliminates his backfoot stroke play through off side. A reason why he is caught on the crease against swinging ball.  Very idea of standing outside is to kill the swing. But bowlers shorten the length and swing it in, he doesn't have enough time to adjust.  I think he has to revisit this strategy. Same way when an offie turns the ball into Kohli pitching short he rarely plays that through off side of the backfoot. A reason why he gets out to Moeen and Lyon sometime. Only when the ball is full he tries to play through the off side sometimes leaving a gap. I think his stances needs some fine tuning so that he allows himself to play more risk free cricket against certain type of deliveries. WHen he is set these balls are not a problem. But when he is new to the crease he has issues.  

[rkt.india]

He never had backfoot game. It has a lot to do with his foundation years. In North India, there are mostly low bounce black soil pitches, which means you don't play a lot on backfoot and you find mostly batsmen with a front foot dominant game. In Western India, soil is red which provides good bounce, means batsmen do develop their backfoot game example Rahane. 

 

Kohli's front foot game has nothing to do with him standing outside the crease.

Edited November 27, 2019 by rkt.india

[Vilander]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

He never had backdoor game.

[Deleted_User_1]

13 hours ago, rkt.india said:

He never had backfoot game. It has a lot to do with his foundation years. In North India, there are mostly low bounce black soil pitches, which means you don't play a lot on backfoot and you find mostly batsmen with a front foot dominant game. In Western India, soil is red which provides good bounce, means batsmen do develop their backfoot game example Rahane. 

 

Kohli's front foot game has nothing to do with him standing outside the crease.

This is why no matter how much he succeeds, he can never match Ailaa's skill level. The latter was strong on back foot as much as front foot.

Edited November 27, 2019 by Audiophile

[vvvslaxman]

7 hours ago, sarchasm said:

Bowlers cannot shorten length and swing it at the same time. Swing, especially late swing that troubles batsmen, by nature requires a fuller length.

YOu just have to adjust your delivery spot while bowling. It is possible.

[maniac]

Did he change his stance anytime during his career? Edwards had his number in his early days but the next year he was a rising test star in Australia. Similarly Anderson ran through him in England but he did very well in England the next tour. Pretty sure his technique has evolved and there is innovation there than a standard technique.

 

 

[Vk1]

Kohli is still slightly susceptible to those 6th stump deliveries on good length. 

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, maniac said:

Did he change his stance anytime during his career? Edwards had his number in his early days but the next year he was a rising test star in Australia. Similarly Anderson ran through him in England but he did very well in England the next tour. Pretty sure his technique has evolved and there is innovation there than a standard technique.

 

 

His trigger movement is pressing forward. Since against swing he couldn't do he was countering that by standing outside the crease. Now it has become his regular stance.  

[vvvslaxman]

On 11/27/2019 at 6:48 PM, Vk1 said:

Kohli is still slightly susceptible to those 6th stump deliveries on good length. 

His backfoot game square of the wicket through off-side is limited due to his stance. He is playing the balls on the front foot that are supposed to be played on the backfoot, Sometimes from the crease. This is why he is not yet a fool-proof batsman. If he can master that he will be more dominating than Smith in Tests. 

[gattaca]

On 12/2/2019 at 5:30 AM, vvvslaxman said:

His backfoot game square of the wicket through off-side is limited due to his stance. He is playing the balls on the front foot that are supposed to be played on the backfoot, Sometimes from the crease. This is why he is not yet a fool-proof batsman. If he can master that he will be more dominating than Smith in Tests. 

I don’t agree with your point about his back foot play though. He still one of the best when it comes to short deliveries. He play them really well. Your argument doesn’t hold well.

[Amit228]

22 minutes ago, gattaca said:

I don’t agree with your point about his back foot play though. He still one of the best when it comes to short deliveries. He play them really well. Your argument doesn’t hold well.

He is good at short deliveries.. yeah i concur.. but i guess previous poster is right about his technique making him limited to play cut shot through point region to short pitch/good length deliveries outside off stump..

 

his go to shot to full length deliveries outside off stump is square drive through cover.. nd in ODI his go to shot against short pitch/good length deliveries outside off stump is dab down to third man.. rarely u will see him doing square cut to short of length deliveries to point.. 

 

On on side it's a different ball game all together.. on onside he can pull, glance, backfoot ondrive to deliveries short or on a good length.. so on onside he is pretty much comparable to Smith with his wrist nd bottom hand to his aid...

While on offside his backfoot game is limited.. sans square cut nd backfoot offdrive to offspinners.. 

 

But still he is making truck load of runs across formats.. that's what's matter the most..even Steve Smith for all his heroics in test cricket.. fall horribly short in limited over cricket as he can't match kohli strike rotation at will nd his running between the wicket... That's the imperative for innings building in odi cricket..

Edited December 4, 2019 by Amit228

[vvvslaxman]

9 hours ago, gattaca said:

I don’t agree with your point about his back foot play though. He still one of the best when it comes to short deliveries. He play them really well. Your argument doesn’t hold well.

On the on side he is a 180 degree player. But on the off side not the same. He drives through cover. Occasionally late cuts. You don't see him square drive, cut, play backfoot punch that often.  He sometimes get out to innocuous off spin balls (from the likes of Moeen, Lyon) even when is pitched short outside the off stump. When he tries to take it on the frontfoot he leaves a hole or edges it to close-in fielder.  If he uses the crease  he could slam the ball through off side with ease.  This is one area guys like Root, Smith, KW are different  Again when in touch he finds a way. But he is not using the crease as much as he should against spinners.

[Rightarmfast]

On 11/27/2019 at 11:32 AM, rkt.india said:

He never had backfoot game. It has a lot to do with his foundation years. In North India, there are mostly low bounce black soil pitches, which means you don't play a lot on backfoot and you find mostly batsmen with a front foot dominant game. In Western India, soil is red which provides good bounce, means batsmen do develop their backfoot game example Rahane. 

 

Kohli's front foot game has nothing to do with him standing outside the crease.

no bro.Black soil is only found in south India and part of west India. Whereas red soil is also found only south India.  but also, some of the faster pitches in India are in north India. Which means, they are hard with good bounce. 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2019 by Rightarmfast