Runs Scored Against Pakistan, Do They Mean Anything

[sandeep]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Do failures of Smith against Pak anything?

Did you see how he got out?  He was slogging for quick runs to declare.

[Khota]

7 hours ago, Vilander said:

kota may be you have much in common with peaceful culture rest of India does not. Amir retired and he and Wahab would have done jack **** if they played as well, in fact they would have done worse.

Amir may have retired but he is still fit. Bottom line is this attack is garbage. I do share a language and some food items with my brothers but my value system has nothing in common. But I am very liberal in my views.

Edited December 1, 2019 by Khota

[Khota]

7 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Thats because atleast one of them, Amir is a traitor to his country. He plays only for money. 

 

Atleast Wahab, whenever he has played, goes out there and given his 200% on the field. And one can excuse him for retiring from test cricket because of his age. But how can one excuse Amir for choosing not to play test for his country?

You always right objectively whether I agree or disagree with you. You are a good poster.

[Khota]

12 hours ago, maniac said:

On topic though, if we keep adding caveats to every innings, there won’t be much left.

 

Runs are Runs.

 

Scoring a 300 takes a lot of patience,concentration,fitness/stamina and skill. 
 

I have seen big players get out cheaply to weak teams because they just lost focus. So kudos to warner 

I am not so sure. Runs against Shaheen Shah are not same as runs against Anderson, Bumrah or Shammi. Till you assign weights cricket averages mean nothing. That is why IPL is a much better benchmark or world cup events are better.

[Khota]

4 hours ago, Shaz1 said:

By retiring for extra twenty20 cash.

Good move.

[Ankit_sharma03]

29 minutes ago, Khota said:

I am not so sure. Runs against Shaheen Shah are not same as runs against Anderson, Bumrah or Shammi. Till you assign weights cricket averages mean nothing. That is why IPL is a much better benchmark or world cup events are better.

but Wc also has weak teams

 

Remeber how Vaas destroyed some minnow teams in 2003 Wc

Ganguly 4 100s were against minnows in 2003 Wc

 

In IPl also u can target 2-3 weak domestic bowlers

[Vilander]

2 hours ago, Khota said:

I do share a language and some food items with my brothers

did you check how your 'brothers' will treat your actual sisters in the other side ? it might help you keep your 'brotherly' love for them in reality. 

[maniac]

2 hours ago, Khota said:

I am not so sure. Runs against Shaheen Shah are not same as runs against Anderson, Bumrah or Shammi. Till you assign weights cricket averages mean nothing. That is why IPL is a much better benchmark or world cup events are better.

Of course , A 300 vs England or Australia  is obviously more memorable and rated much higher  than a 300 vs the current Pak bowling or Zimbabwe, no one denies that.

 

However I am talking about the achievement of scoring the 300 itself regardless of opposition which requires all the attributes I mentioned above post.

 

 

[Gollum]

Every era has weak bowling attacks, Mankad-Roy 400 runs opening partnership has been celebrated so much, do people bother to check how weak that NZ team was? Sunny's 1971 monster series came against probably the weakest WI bowling unit in their history, who cares at the end of the day? As such test cricket has so few teams, if we micro-analyze what will be left? 

 

I personally enjoyed Warner and Labu making mincemeat of Pak bowlers a LOT. In terms of entertainment value Warner's phainta is right up there among the top...reminded me of some of Viru's best knocks. 

[Vijy]

39 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Every era has weak bowling attacks, Mankad-Roy 400 runs opening partnership has been celebrated so much, do people bother to check how weak that NZ team was? Sunny's 1971 monster series came against probably the weakest WI bowling unit in their history, who cares at the end of the day? As such test cricket has so few teams, if we micro-analyze what will be left? 

 

I personally enjoyed Warner and Labu making mincemeat of Pak bowlers a LOT. In terms of entertainment value Warner's phainta is right up there among the top...reminded me of some of Viru's best knocks. 

The lamb (Marnus Labu) butchered these Pakistani "wolves", as did warner bros.

[Rightarmfast]

2 hours ago, Vilander said:

did you check how your 'brothers' will treat your actual sisters in the other side ? it might help you keep your 'brotherly' love for them in reality. 

My brother, A) - All that has got nothing to do with cricket. And we are only discussing cricket here. So let's stick to the topic. 

 

B) Our sisters and female friends are getting raped here in India itself, brutally. We do not have to look at Pakistan and make them an example. First, save them from our own monsters. BJP has got atleast 3-4 ministers who are proper rape accused, and no action has been taken on them. I name bjp here, because it is their language you are speaking right now. And I totally know that people are going to pounce on me right now. But truth is always bitter, and truth is all I am saying.

[Khota]

4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

but Wc also has weak teams

 

Remeber how Vaas destroyed some minnow teams in 2003 Wc

Ganguly 4 100s were against minnows in 2003 Wc

 

In IPl also u can target 2-3 weak domestic bowlers

Yes it is true IPL has few weak teams but everyone gets to play them so it averages out. Fact that these events are for few weeks everyone has nearlythe same conditions. These test runs against Pakistan are just that, junk.

[Khota]

3 hours ago, Vilander said:

did you check how your 'brothers' will treat your actual sisters in the other side ? it might help you keep your 'brotherly' love for them in reality. 

You are 100% correct that is why I said I do not share their values. No only they trean hindu and Sikh girls like crap the cops take no action and politicians ignore it. That is a absolute second class treatment of minorities going on over there.

[Khota]

2 hours ago, maniac said:

Of course , A 300 vs England or Australia  is obviously more memorable and rated much higher  than a 300 vs the current Pak bowling or Zimbabwe, no one denies that.

 

However I am talking about the achievement of scoring the 300 itself regardless of opposition which requires all the attributes I mentioned above post.

 

 

300 does require effort but it will require more effort against Anderson or a Bumrah and that is the point I am trying to make.

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said:

My brother, A) - All that has got nothing to do with cricket. And we are only discussing cricket here. So let's stick to the topic. 

 

B) Our sisters and female friends are getting raped here in India itself, brutally. We do not have to look at Pakistan and make them an example. First, save them from our own monsters. BJP has got atleast 3-4 ministers who are proper rape accused, and no action has been taken on them. I name bjp here, because it is their language you are speaking right now. And I totally know that people are going to pounce on me right now. But truth is always bitter, and truth is all I am saying.

ok i was giving you benefit of doubt till now, but you seem to be asking for some close inspection.

 

buddy you need to understand this. India is a shithole for what it does to its women - i have not claimed otherwise in my post so dont bring strawmen here. But we are not Pakistani brothers. thats my opinion. there we go. 

 

and i dont give * what language you think i am speaking. 

[mani sha]

8 hours ago, Khota said:

I am not so sure. Runs against Shaheen Shah are not same as runs against Anderson, Bumrah or Shammi. Till you assign weights cricket averages mean nothing. That is why IPL is a much better benchmark or world cup events are better.

Good sides bad sides doesn’t matter . Warner made a 300 but his other opener made 100 

 

all runs against test playing nations matter . But they get diluted when others around u too score well 

 

sehwag making 150 while rest of team making 100 makes sehwag runs more valuable 

 

a match where yasir makes a 100 shows pitch is easy . A match when warner makes 300 shows he exploited pitch opposition and used his concentration to get to 300 

 

but a 100 made by Babar in the last match was more meaningful as it shows his class in a poor pak side 

[Khota]

2 hours ago, mani sha said:

Good sides bad sides doesn’t matter . Warner made a 300 but his other opener made 100 

 

all runs against test playing nations matter . But they get diluted when others around u too score well 

 

sehwag making 150 while rest of team making 100 makes sehwag runs more valuable 

 

a match where yasir makes a 100 shows pitch is easy . A match when warner makes 300 shows he exploited pitch opposition and used his concentration to get to 300 

 

but a 100 made by Babar in the last match was more meaningful as it shows his class in a poor pak side 

All I am trying to say is that runs against weak sides inflate your stats.

[Vijy]

35 minutes ago, Khota said:

All I am trying to say is that runs against weak sides inflate your stats.

of course, but it happens to everyone incl. our own batsmen. with the exception of viru, who did poorly against minnows, most of our best batters have stronger records against the weaker teams like Zim, Bang

[Rightarmfast]

6 hours ago, Vilander said:

ok i was giving you benefit of doubt till now, but you seem to be asking for some close inspection.

 

buddy you need to understand this. India is a shithole for what it does to its women - i have not claimed otherwise in my post so dont bring strawmen here. But we are not Pakistani brothers. thats my opinion. there we go. 

 

and i dont give * what language you think i am speaking. 

I have not questioned your language at all. And I hold you dear, and see you with utmost respect. I often have arguments with @rkt.india but all in good fun. He is a great poster. But I love to pull his leg once in a while :P 

But with you, not at all. You and some of us are like family here. And that is the reason why, I just pointed out what I honestly felt like. Dont take it as an offence, would be my request. :)

[Khota]

5 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

I have not questioned your language at all. And I hold you dear, and see you with utmost respect. I often have arguments with @rkt.india but all in good fun. He is a great poster. But I love to pull his leg once in a while :P 

But with you, not at all. You and some of us are like family here. And that is the reason why, I just pointed out what I honestly felt like. Dont take it as an offence, would be my request. :)

We are a family. We feud a lot but still a family.