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4 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Haha this thread is a classic example of how not to do blind PR for players - shifting goalposts in every post! From calling every young player **** to defending Bhuvi's batting talent, Kudeep's destruction and Dhawan over Rahul in T20s. All this to prove Kohli's greatness as a leader when he's built ZERO legacy in nearly 5 years:hatsoff:

Coz even they knw he wont win any tournament so make it a theory of lack of talent 

Same thing RCB mngmt has been telling themselves- coach, player issue but 2 things have been constant kohli n failures

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On 12/2/2019 at 7:55 AM, putrevus said:

Kohli is right in a sense that he needs to give more importance to process and become the best team they can become.Results will follow if they keep doing what they have been doing plus if they can find some talented batsmen.

 

The entitled Indian public think if Indian team does not win cups it is a failure, Talent does not grow on trees or just because BCCI is rich, Indian team does not have to be talented.There is one batsmen in this team who merits his place in all three formats and people expect miracles with this talent.

 

Fricking Indian teams with Sachin and fab4 lost to Zimbabwe, now we are classifying close losses in England and SA as some massive failures.What will be failure is if they fail to build on their previous tours and convert those losses to wins provided they have no injuries and it starts in NZ.

 

WI was the best team 1980s but they never won any world cup during 1980s.You need some luck to win these tournaments.Kohli has to show up in these knockouts too.

 

 

 

The big question is - is the process right?  You can prioritize the process all you want, but backing an effed up process only ensures that you're effed.  In tests, it appears that the process is working well, complaints about SA and Eng losses notwithstanding.  But in LOIs, the process needs reworking.  

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Coz even they knw he wont win any tournament so make it a theory of lack of talent 

Same thing RCB mngmt has been telling themselves- coach, player issue but 2 things have been constant kohli n failures

Wonder how will Kohli defend his great record for RCB. RCB fans 'obsessed' with IPL trophies? No good young talent available globally? 

 

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There is no doubt bilaterals are important, but even there we are losing away from home. And neither are we winning silverware. 

 

So the only successes are coming at home and even that is coming with some hiccups. Both Australia and windies could have beat us 

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On 12/1/2019 at 11:56 PM, Gollum said:

 

What Garry says at the end of the video.."It isn't about winning or losing but at the end of the day it is about winning or losing". Process over results is an oft repeated cliche that even serious sportsmen don't take too seriously, the idea of sports competition (beyond school level) is to win something worthwhile, not participation medals/certificates. England lost to Springboks in the final of the Rugby World Cup recently, players refused to wear their medals in the post-match photo sessions....and here we have a sport called cricket with maybe 5-6 serious countries, trophy shelf empty while teams like Lanka, Pak, WI have added to their kitty since our last major triumph.....kaptaan saheb is on PR overdrive.

 

Miss the 90s and 2000s when media would ask tough questions after major failures, now after a humiliating SF exit (courtesy selection blunder and wrong batting order more than choke fest) Kohli thinks we have done very well, that's what he claimed, no? That fans were coming up to him and saying how proud they were of our performance, like seriously? Indian white ball teams and all those associated have no standards, with this attitude they won't win anything of significance for a long long time. Already in the middle of our longest drought in ICC titles, unlike 80s/90s now we have ICC tournaments almost on an annual basis. Test cricket is different, #1 ranking means something there and we have 4 consecutive years of Kohli with the mace to show for our efforts. 

Couldn't have given better example than Garry Kasparov. I think he dominated the game more than any other sportsman. 20 years if I am not wrong.

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