Opposition, libtards opposing Citizenship Amendment Bill

[randomGuy]

42 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Miscreants from Haji colony and Batla House infiltrated Jamia protests. A while back a sinister IS terror module was busted in Haji colony...Batla is legendary after that famous encounter.

@randomGuy you are from Delhi right? Is Jamia near Old Delhi? Communally sensitive area?

I live in northwest Delhi (pitampura), this area is in southeast...so quite far. not much idea abt this area ...but more concentration of peacefuls automatically makes it communally sensitive one would guess.

[sergio04]

@coffee_rules Bhaai read this.

Edited December 17, 2019 by sergio04

[sandeep]

12 minutes ago, sergio04 said:

 

This is a very interesting thread.  

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

 

In B4, some journalists point it out, that look, how considerate these stone throwers are! They are asking for passengers to move to the back of the buses, while they are smashing stones and lathis at the front. How peaceful looking only for state owned vehicles, as if public property is their abba ki jaagir! Awww!

[adi B]

2 hours ago, someone said:

Ah, the confused Hindu strikes again. It's a Hindu phenomenon who will over-analyze things because they have been told since birth, to be neutral, and everyone is same and respect everybody. A wishful thinking of sarve jana sukhino bhavantu. So you can conveniently talk about 2 sides. Whereas there is no Muslim who is confused, or talking about 2 sides. There is no Ifs/Buts with them, today they are very clear about their hatred and are taking hostage of various parts in our nation. It's you who are confused and thus, are in denial mode....

 

More worrying, we are talking about good violence and bad violence (Similar case of good/bad Taliban). That's very dangerous and violence is violence and has to be dealt well with the existing laws.

 

 

Couldn't have put it better myself !

[adi B]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Miscreants from Haji colony and Batla House infiltrated Jamia protests. A while back a sinister IS terror module was busted in Haji colony...Batla is legendary after that famous encounter.

@randomGuy you are from Delhi right? Is Jamia near Old Delhi? Communally sensitive area?

Yes batla house ,okhla ,jamia nagar are all nearby ,around 3 km radius 

[someone]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

Action against violence and vandalism is necessary.  Beating up random students in a library who did not participate in any violence is not.  Question is, do you possess the capacity to differentiate the 2? Or is the latter just fine with you because the victims in question are "those" people?

Is anyone saying the police are complete saints? Nope, yet the only thing between the mob & you, is the police.

 

The law & order situation is bad, and any ppl using violence should be condemned and punished. There is no such thing as "good violence".

[sandeep]

Just now, someone said:

Is anyone saying the police are complete saints? Nope, yet the only thing between the mob & you, is the police.

 

The law & order situation is bad, and any ppl using violence should be condemned and punished. There is no such thing as "good violence".

Complete strawman - I challenge you to find anything where I supported any kind of mob violence.  

[someone]

1 minute ago, sandeep said:

Complete strawman - I challenge you to find anything where I supported any kind of mob violence.  

When you start putting "ifs & buts" when describing mob violence, you are already the confused Hindu....

 

 

[someone]

1 hour ago, Reddysaab said:

why are people protesting? do they want even Muslims from Pak , Afg and BD to be given Citizenship. why would they need that because why wud Muslims be persecuted in Pak, Afg or BD?

This is the main question. And it's plain hatred, there are many facets including against removal of 370, Babri verdict, and now this CAA. When you hear hinduyo se aazadi, it's really about bigots and riots.

Edited December 16, 2019 by someone

[mishra]

19 minutes ago, adi B said:

Couldn't have put it better myself !

The way I see it, Every educated progressive Muslim is very clear that sharia implementation opportunities must not be missed. So their modu operandi is simple.
1. They Do not discuss minorities in Muslim majority place

 

2. if in 50:50 ratio, they will threaten/ kill burn the non Muslims and kill non Muslims using various means like terrorism, kidnapping girls , impregnating and raping them. Like Current Somalia , Kenya. Eventually they will create a parallel government in same country. Educated Muslims globally will keep silent.
 

3. They will always support fight and argue in support of bifurcation or creation of a separate country  from existing democratic country like Kashmir. They will never ever discuss what happens and happened to non Muslims.

4. They will unequivocally oppose and criticise democratic Governments in grounds religion even if its simple reform like Burqa and Burkini Ban or tripple talaq even if they are not even related to that land because supposedly Sharia is in threat

[sergio04]

 

[sandeep]

37 minutes ago, someone said:

When you start putting "ifs & buts" when describing mob violence, you are already the confused Hindu....

 

 

Please show me "ifs and buts".  Stop making up fake strawmen.

[Gollum]

Assam to fall by 2060, then Bengal and finally Kerala. North East is more or less screwed, no shot at correction. Countries far more powerful than us, societies far tougher (and braver, more ruthless) than us dharmics have lost the demographic battle to Muslims and are practically aiming to survive rather than flourish.

 

As Ambedkar said “Among the tenets one that calls for notice is the tenet of Islam which says that in a country which is not under Muslim rule wherever there is a conflict between Muslim law and the law of the land, the former must prevail over the latter and a Muslim will be justified in obeying the Muslim law and defying the law of the land.” Even more apt, “Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity. ... In other words, Islam can never allow a true Muslim to adopt India as his motherland and regard a Hindu as his kith and kin. That is probably the reason why Maulana Mahomed Ali, a great Indian but a true Muslim, preferred to be buried in Jerusalem rather than in India.”

 

I know there are a few sane Muslims who acknowledge their dharmic roots and are immensely loyal to India but what is their %? Surrounded by Islamic republics on both sides and a belligerent Dragon up north, this demographic crisis will not just consume us from within but provide plenty of scope to enemies at the gate to further dismember our nation. Enemies within and outside, so many fault lines to exploit, so little urgency....recipe for disaster.

 

To those who think some of us are exaggerating, learn from history, how the great Vijayanagara empire fell. It was a rich, powerful, just, tolerant empire with chilled out kings under whom Muslims flourished (over a period much much longer than 72 years). In the battle of Talikota the Muslim generals and troops switched over to the camp of the Deccan Sultans and the local Muslims participated in genocide and pillage in the aftermath of the battle, not going into details but that was probably the worst massacre of our medieval history. Why isn't real history taught to our kids? People cite Mir Jafar or Jaichand as examples of traitors, how many are aware of the treacherous Gilani brothers, 10 times worse treason. Sick of the PCness and depravity of libtards who have shoved falsehoods down our throats for so long.

Edited December 16, 2019 by Gollum

[Gollum]

26 minutes ago, mishra said:

The way I see it, Every educated progressive Muslim is very clear that sharia implementation opportunities must not be missed. So their modu operandi is simple.
1. They Do not discuss minorities in Muslim majority place

 

2. if in 50:50 ratio, they will threaten/ kill burn the non Muslims and kill non Muslims using various means like terrorism, kidnapping girls , impregnating and raping them. Like Current Somalia , Kenya. Eventually they will create a parallel government in same country. Educated Muslims globally will keep silent.
 

3. They will always support fight and argue in support of bifurcation or creation of a separate country  from existing democratic country like Kashmir. They will never ever discuss what happens and happened to non Muslims.

4. They will unequivocally oppose and criticise democratic Governments in grounds religion even if its simple reform like Burqa and Burkini Ban or tripple talaq even if they are not even related to that land because supposedly Sharia is in threat

Reminds me of this...anything wrong? 

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Not entirely accurate (even the data), things are much worse. But an interesting take nonetheless, simple layman explanation.

How Islam progressively takes over countries

By Mark Ellis

In Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam,” he documents the way Muslims slowly develop a presence in various countries and as their population numbers build, become more aggressive and assertive about exercising Sharia law.

“Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life,” Dr. Hammond notes in his book. “Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.”


Their takeover of a country, what Dr. Hammond refers to as “Islamization,” begins when the population of Muslims reaches a critical mass, and they being to agitate for various privileges.

Open, free, democratic societies are particularly vulnerable. “When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well,” he notes.

This is how it works, according to Dr. Hammond:

When the Muslim population remains under 2% in a country, they will be seen primarily as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the current situation in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%

Australia — Muslim 1.5%

Canada — Muslim 1.9%

China — Muslim 1.8%

Italy — Muslim 1.5%

Norway — Muslim 1.8%

As the Muslim population reaches 2% to 5%, they begin to recruit from ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, within prisons and street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%

Germany — Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

Spain — Muslim 4%

Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

“From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population,” Dr. Hammond notes. “For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food” and increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature such food on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is happening in:

France — Muslim 8%

Philippines — 5%

Sweden — Muslim 5%

Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

Soon they begin to apply pressure to allow Sharia law within their own communities (sometimes ghettos).

“When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions,” Dr. Hammond notes. “In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.” These tensions are seen on a regular basis in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%

India — Muslim 13.4%

Israel — Muslim 16%

Kenya — Muslim 10%

Russia — Muslim 15%

The violence increases when the Muslim population reaches 20%. “After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,” such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

“At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,” such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%

Chad — Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, persecution of non-believing “infidels” rises significantly, including sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and Jizya, a tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%

Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out “infidels,” and move toward a 100% Muslim society, which has been experienced to some degree in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

Egypt — Muslim 90%

Gaza — Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

Iran — Muslim 98%

Iraq — Muslim 97%

Jordan — Muslim 92%

Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan — Muslim 97%

Palestine — Muslim 99%

Syria — Muslim 90%

Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

A 100% Muslim society will theoretically usher in their version of peace — the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. “Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,” such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

Somalia — Muslim 100%

Yemen — Muslim 100%

Dr. Hammond observes this Islamic ideal is seldom realized. “Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.”

Dr. Hammond is also concerned by demographic trends. “Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population,” he observes. “But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.”

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel.’ —
Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos,within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts nor schools nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large.

The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.


from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book:
‘Slavery, Terrorism and Islam:
The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat’

LINK

Edited December 16, 2019 by Gollum

[FischerTal]

when family of SSP is under threat, what are commoners supposed to do?

 

 

[mishra]

3 hours ago, Gollum said:

Reminds me of this...anything wrong? 

LINK

Yes, Difference is, He argued that Muslims are suppsedly looking for “Peace”.

No, they aren’t. Peace is not the ultimate goal.
 I see them looking for implementation of Sharia.

[Gollum]

LOL even Barkha Rani admitting the fake news campaign....*ing Sisodia and Marlena were spreading that wild theory yesterday. 

[Gollum]

Barkha Dutt’s ‘shero’ Ladeeda gave call for Jihad, Aysha Renna called India fascist for executing terrorist Yakub Memon

 

This Ladeeda character is a hardcore extremist, links with SIMI offshoots. Making a dangerous person like her 'icon' will screw India. Some very interesting info about them, looks like a set-up. 

 

 

Edited December 16, 2019 by Gollum

[Gollum]

How many prominent Muslims have condemned the violence in Bengal? Any Bollywood intellectual? Liberal Muslim activists....kahan chupe ho? 

 

Look at this hypocrite.....won't condemn any violence from Muslim side, will never miss an opportunity to take digs at Hindus. But when she could give a spin to Amarnath Yatra terror attack, this is too damn easy !!!

 

Edited December 17, 2019 by Gollum