rtmohanlal Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 there must be 4 wicket taking bowlers, no compromise on that. Shardul is not at all the solution. His job primarily is that of a bowler and has proved far off from adequate till now. raki05, RAZPOR and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 With the current form & confidence of Aussies , every bowler will go for runs on these roads . Lets not over react. Surprise was total domination. Hope next 2 matches are much closer even if we loose. For me Loosing would be good for the future . Should result in change in playing strategy , change in personnel in 50 overs team with an eye to build a new team with only 2-3 players above 30 . Ankit_sharma03 and nevada 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 What were Shami and Bumrah doing, eating grass, playing Thakur over Saini was the right call. You cannot play a match with just five batsmen.If you want all strike bowlers then those bowlers need to handle the bat too. Link to comment
sandeep Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 13 hours ago, gakgupta said: Getting totally disgusted with this Mumbai lobby.... Didn't know Virat Kohli was part of "Mumbai Lobby". Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I just hope we get someone like morgan as captain who can identify players and back them to death! Just look at how he transformed England.. Rat does back players but look at them... dhawan chuut, rahul madchuut, shardul mahachuut. RAZPOR, sergio04 and Ankit_sharma03 3 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Frustrated said: Unfair comparison. Shardul is a bowler who can bat bit. Replacing Shardul with Saini would mean we are playing 4 tailenders. Saini should hv played ahead of Shami (who has been garbage in his LOI career) Shami n kuldeep both can hold the bat, shami is not consistent but tailender arent nyways Opp bowler is starc who even will have biggest batsman in trouble in death so a bit of batting that shardul can will be nulified against him. It can work against some other but not someone like starc so better play a bowler. If batting was all that they needed ashwin n jadeja wud have never been discarded for kulcha No point playing someone for extra 10-20 % batting skill against this guy, even the better ones find it hard against him Edited January 15, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03 RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Blah, against Starc & co most players are bunnies. Shardul is only useful on typical 90's style Indian wickets which are dry & slow down massively, especially in the second innings. He should be picked ahead of Saina only in 1 or 2 instances, mainly against weaker teams. He is fairly 1D with his bowling & 0.5D with his batting. Vilander, nevada, RAZPOR and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 16 hours ago, express bowling said: Saini has shown this ability to suddenly get a set batsman out, using his extra pace and accuracy. With Australia 145 without loss ... we needed Saini. ODIs are won by taking wickets and not by a No.8 batsman scoring 8 extra runs. Kohli and some cheut here should understand this simple fact....if batsmen can't bat bowler should not expect to cover their ass by doing batting.....Did we ever ask why our batsmen never balls isn't it on the same token they should also ball 3-4 overs and if Kohli, Rohit and Dhwan can't ball 2-3 over every match they should be booted out for jadhav, Shankar and Dubey coz they can ball 3-4 over. Only a nonsense Kohli fan can come with such logic. Ankit_sharma03, express bowling, nevada and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, raki05 said: if Kohli, Rohit and Dhwan can't ball 2-3 over every match they should be booted out That's a separate argument. though realistically we do need at least a few overs from part timers in LO, the fact that we've given up on this line of thought is truly BS. You can't go in every game with just 5 bowlers or 3 & 2 A/R thinking they'll get away every time! We need some part time spin or something from the top 4 or 5 raki05, Ankit_sharma03 and RAZPOR 3 Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, R!TTER said: That's a separate argument. though realistically we do need at least a few overs from part timers in LO, the fact that we've given up on this line of thought is truly BS. You can't go in every game with just 5 bowlers or 3 & 2 A/R thinking they'll get away every time! We need some part time spin or something from the top 4 or 5 Realisticaly yes. But some new potential batting or bowling talent we can't disard because he is not good at other skill. Example in case is saini , kuli always make way for mediocre bowlers like Thakur, jadeja coz they can bat a bit. express bowling, RAZPOR and Ankit_sharma03 3 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, R!TTER said: That's a separate argument. though realistically we do need at least a few overs from part timers in LO, the fact that we've given up on this line of thought is truly BS. You can't go in every game with just 5 bowlers or 3 & 2 A/R thinking they'll get away every time! We need some part time spin or something from the top 4 or 5 Yes we always do specially incase of injury In wc pak game- bhuvi got injured shankar was there Last yr asia cup panyda got injured jadhav was there. In wc semi - pandya got injured n we didnt have anyone so he had to complete overs with injury Going with 5 bowler is asking for trouble as if in any game anyone gets injured we ll be in serious trouble. These player put 100% in field anyone can get injured anytime Link to comment
bhakum20 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 i’ll be shocked if they don’t select saini for next 2 games express bowling 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 21 hours ago, Frustrated said: Unfair comparison. Shardul is a bowler who can bat bit. Replacing Shardul with Saini would mean we are playing 4 tailenders. Saini should hv played ahead of Shami (who has been garbage in his LOI career) Problem is how many matches we loose due to bowler batting skill.bowler main job is wkt taking abilities. I don't think Shradul can contribute with batting against good bowling side. You should always choose players on their primary skill and if we need both batting and bowling we should look for all-rounder. Suhaan and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
gakgupta Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Finally sense prevails...Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk Link to comment
gakgupta Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Finally sense prevails...Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using TapatalkSaini playing ahead of shardulSent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk Link to comment
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