Alam_dar Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) In Pakistan, we believe that Urdu is a sweet sounding language. We believe that Urdu has a treasure of Poetry. But what is the Truth? This one song makes all this difference clear (Both Persian and Urdu songs are sung side by side). Urdu song is sung by Atif Aslam, while Persian song is sung by Gul Panra. Persian Language is much ahead of Urdu in sweetness and poetry. Enjoy. Persian poetry has deep meanings. I really enjoy Persian poetry (There are Urdu Translations available for some of Persian poetry). Here is the English translation of this Persian Song: Man Aamadeh Am (I have come). English translation I've come I've come, woe woe I've come that the love shouts out I've come that the coquetry makes a foundation I've come I've come that the love shouts out I've come that the coquetry makes a foundation I've come, woe o my sweetheart, may you live for 100 years o my sweetheart, may you live for 100 years you sat at my side, may you be my neighbour may you be my neighbour, so that your hand gives me shade maybe you will be my destiny I've come, woe woe I've come that the love shouts out I've come that the coquetry makes a foundation I've come, woe love came and pitched a tent in the field of my heart love came and pitched a tent in the field of my heart love threw its faithful chain at my heart's feet if love doesn't respond to the yells of my heart oh my heart, woe oh my heart, oh my heart I've come I've come that the love shouts out I've come that the coquetry makes a foundation I've come, woe come so that we can leave here, me and you come so that we can leave here, me and you you take my hand and I will take your clothes until a point where both of us fall ill (we get sick) you because of the sorrow of loneliness, and I because of your sorrow I've come, woe woe I've come that the love shouts out I've come that the coquetry makes a foundation I've come Thanks! ❤ @Mariyam Edited July 24, 2020 by Alam_dar Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Don’t care for either. Alam_dar, velu, raki05 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Sweeter than honey velu, raki05 and Alam_dar 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Alam miyan, Persian ki qadrdaan ya Persian pe fida. Edited July 24, 2020 by coffee_rules Laaloo, Mariyam, Alam_dar and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Alam miyan, Persian ki qadrdaan ya Persian pe fida. I think it is perhaps "both" in case of this song . I really like the traditional dress that she is wearing. Edited July 24, 2020 by Alam_dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Had PakMil not caused the separation of East Pak and not enforced Urdu upon their population, you would have another sweet language in Bangla today. Luckily for India we get to keep the (UNESCO certified ) sweetest langauge and best desserts in the world. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 The song is good, the female singer cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gollum said: Had PakMil not caused the separation of East Pak and not enforced Urdu upon their population, you would have another sweet language in Bangla today. Luckily for India we get to keep the (UNESCO certified ) sweetest langauge and best desserts in the world. They thopofied Ganga Jamuna tehzeeb waale Urdu zabaan on all of West Pakistan as well. Hearing Pakjabi paindoos speaking Punjabi thick accented Urdu is a pain. Nobody in PoK speaks Kashmiri, even in Kashmir it is sidelined to Urdu. Kashmiri is such a sweet pahadi language. Sindhi too is lost with Bihari muhajirs populating that region in Karachi. Edited July 24, 2020 by coffee_rules Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: They thopofied Ganga Jamuna tehzeeb waale Urdu zabaan on all of West Pakistan as well. Hearing Pakjabi paindoos speaking Punjabi thick accented Urdu is a pain. Nobody in PoK speaks Kashmiri, even in Kashmir it is sidelined to Urdu. Kashmiri is such a sweet pahadi language. Sindhi too is lost with Bihari muhajirs populating that region in Karachi. Saale Mysore Pak, pehle trollvote ko undo kar. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: They thopofied Ganga Jamuna tehzeeb waale Urdu zabaan on all of West Pakistan as well. Hearing Pakjabi paindoos speaking Punjabi thick accented Urdu is a pain. Nobody in PoK speaks Kashmiri, even in Kashmir it is sidelined to Urdu. Kashmiri is such a sweet pahadi language. Sindhi too is lost with Bihari muhajirs populating that region in Karachi. I find that the younger generation of Karachi has the worst Urdu accent. Even people in Lahore speak better Urdu than them. I like the Hindi/Urdu which the people of Delhi speak. Their language is Sweater than all parts of Pakistan. The best accent belonged to the older generation of Luckhnow city, but I don't know how good is their younger generation. It is unfortunate that regional languages are disappearing. Actually, Urdu is itself disappearing among the younger generation, and they are using more and more English. I believe that it is a natural phenomenon that people automatically adopt the most developed language and culture gradually. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Pakistani National Anthem is 99.9% in Persian (except for one word of URDU). Still it is such a bad song. But this ancient national anthem of Iran is Unbelievably Sweet. I didn't expect it when I heard it for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 This is the original. And she looks like a Californian hippie https://youtu.be/HxvUQ1PSqfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Alam_dar said: Pakistani National Anthem is 99.9% in Persian But why ? I don't think even 1% of your population even speaks or understands Persian. Man the wannabeism is unreal. Alam_dar and raki05 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 not sure about Persian language .. but most Persian chicks are solid 8/10 Alam_dar, Yoda-esque and Norman 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Catchy song but a strange video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, MechEng said: This is the original. And she looks like a Californian hippie https://youtu.be/HxvUQ1PSqfs The very original one is this (link). I think that taste changes according to the time and generation. The original one is from the pre-revolution era, and people in Iran at that time wanted to make a lot of things westernised under the Shah. Thus this song also got the western touch at that time. Nevertheless, I like the traditional touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, velu said: not sure about Persian language .. but most Persian chicks are solid 8/10 Dude I had a chinese American girl tell me once that all Indian women are super beautiful based on some Bollywood movies she saw. Don’t form an opinion based on what you see on the mainstream media. They show you what they want to show and you see what you want to see I worked with some Russian women from actually Russia . Nice ladies but they look nothing like what you think of Russian women from what you would imagine from your “online browsing” raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Persian culture and language are beautiful. Maniac as usual is simply being jealous . Alam_dar and maniac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, maniac said: Dude I had a chinese American girl tell me once that all Indian women are super beautiful based on some Bollywood movies she saw. Don’t form an opinion based on what you see on the mainstream media. They show you what they want to show and you see what you want to see I worked with some Russian women from actually Russia . Nice ladies but they look nothing like what you think of Russian women from what you would imagine from your “online browsing” If you are from tamilnadu , even Somalian chicks are solid 6/10 MechEng, raki05, Laaloo and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, velu said: If you are from tamilnadu , even Somalian chicks are solid 6/10 Tam Bhram girls though, Something about them. Intelligent and very good looking and most importantly super classy. At least most of them. Based on stereotype + personal experiences. Edited July 24, 2020 by maniac raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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