maniac Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 Don’t rate him but good on him to be part of net bowling resources. Will get experience. However this guy always seems to be injured and bowl less than 100% Iike during u-19 wc or other major opportunities he has got
express bowling Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 Replace him with Prasidh. Suhaan, Mosher, sandeep and 1 other 4
sandeep Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Serpico said: man this guy is made of glass When Pat Cummins was out of commission for more than 4 years, I'm sure some 'fan' somewhere made this type of comment... In Indian cricket, tall bowlers who can crank it up beyond 140 aren't a dime a dozen.
Serpico Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, sandeep said: In Indian cricket, tall bowlers who can crank it up beyond 140 he isn't that fast
maniac Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 He is a trundler and not that impressive however he is young so can hope for improvement or wait for him to find his niche.
sandeep Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, Serpico said: he isn't that fast Nit, meet pick. Bottomline, he is in the top dozen pace bowling prospects in India - ones that have not made the team yet. And its foolish to write him off just because he's had his share of injury issues. Most fast bowlers do. Tall lanky ones, are more prone to it. It is what it is.
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 Wish the young lad a quick recovery and hope to see him back in action soon. He is only 22 and has a long career ahead of him. He bowls great lengths l, can swing n seam the vall and due to his height, gets good carry off the pitch. Yes pace us an issue but we should not keep looking for only 140 kmph+ bowlers. As he grows stronger and plays more, has the potential to be a 135-138 kmph bowler. Decent enough prospect.
rkt.india Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 He is a fine bowler but he gets a good coach to improve his action. It will help him stay injury free to. His action is just too ungainly with glaring technical flaws.
rkt.india Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CHpUADYpXJk/?igshid=1k1irrj5fjtcz This is his latest video. Position of his bowling hand on load up seems to have improved but loading up before impulse stride, bowling wrong footed. No braced front leg, center of mass seems to be falling ahead of base of support.
express bowling Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: He bowls great lengths l, can swing n seam the vall and due to his height, gets good carry off the pitch. Yes pace us an issue but we should not keep looking for only 140 kmph+ bowlers. As he grows stronger and plays more, has the potential to be a 135-138 kmph bowler. Decent enough prospect. Some such pacers have succeeded but one thing common among such pacers is metronomical accuracy. And they should preferably be tall too ( which Porel is ). But if he cannot develop into a 140 k + pacer then Porel should try to be very very accurate like McGrath. Mosher 1
maniac Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Yes pace us an issue but we should not keep looking for only 140 kmph+ bowlers. As he grows stronger and plays more, has the potential to be a 135-138 kmph bowler. Decent enough prospect. what I noticed is the most successful bowlers in cricket have always added pace to their skills at they went along.Anderson,Broad, Steyn,Ishant were all 135-140 when they started but they had skills . 140’s is a good pace to start off but 140 is not going to threaten any batsmen these days with small boundaries and big bats that becomes the ideal pace too. so you need to have 140+ Speed + skills. If you are 150+ now that makes you special but not sure how many 150+ bowlers have had long lasting careers. Edited December 1, 2020 by maniac
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, express bowling said: Some such pacers have succeeded but one thing common among such pacers is metronomical accuracy. And they should preferably be tall too ( which Porel is ). But if he cannot develop into a 140 k + pacer then Porel should try to be very very accurate like McGrath. This has been discussed to death. Anderson. Broad, Hazlewood have all built hugely successful Test careers bowling mostly 135-138 kmph. Holder bowls 125-130 kmph and has been immensely successful. 135-138 kmph with right set of skills (a good height helps with carry off the pitch) is good enough for a decent international career . Will not make such bowlers an ATG but good enough for 150-200 test wickets and have a 6-8 year long career.
Vilander Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, sandeep said: When Pat Cummins was out of commission for more than 4 years, I'm sure some 'fan' somewhere made this type of comment... In Indian cricket, tall bowlers who can crank it up beyond 140 aren't a dime a dozen. Porel is not one of them through... express bowling 1
The Realist Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 6 hours ago, maniac said: He is a trundler and not that impressive however he is young so can hope for improvement or wait for him to find his niche. The new Kumar?
maniac Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, The Realist said: The new Kumar? more in the Khaleel mould right hand version. Don’t see him get swing etc. just generic bowler who might get bounce once in a while
rkt.india Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, maniac said: more in the Khaleel mould right hand version. Don’t see him get swing etc. just generic bowler who might get bounce once in a while Khaleel hits 140+.
raki05 Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 11 hours ago, sandeep said: When Pat Cummins was out of commission for more than 4 years, I'm sure some 'fan' somewhere made this type of comment... In Indian cricket, tall bowlers who can crank it up beyond 140 aren't a dime a dozen. He doesn't crank 140. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 8 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: This has been discussed to death. Anderson. Broad, Hazlewood have all built hugely successful Test careers bowling mostly 135-138 kmph. Holder bowls 125-130 kmph and has been immensely successful. 135-138 kmph with right set of skills (a good height helps with carry off the pitch) is good enough for a decent international career . Will not make such bowlers an ATG but good enough for 150-200 test wickets and have a 6-8 year long career. My point in the earlier post was about developing pinpoint accuracy if you are a seamer without extra pace. Tall pacers who get extra bounce have succeeded at 130 k to 140 k. BUT They have pinpoint accuracy like McGrath or Pollock Broad and Anderson are not apt examples as they have high averages in Asia and have benefited a lot from playing a very high percentage of tests in swing friendly England. ( An advantage that Porel won't have ) I have seen only 3 really accurate frontline pacers from India. Kapil, Bumrah and Bhuvi. So, pinpoint accuracy is something that would need a lot of hard work to achieve. But Porel must work on this aspect. Mosher 1
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