Are these batsmen "that" pathetic? (Ind v Aus A in the pink ball FC game)

[zen]

Pujara & Kohli are not playing in the pink ball practise game .... Ind 106/5 v Aus's 4th-5th-6th type bowlers (if playing in Aus 11)  .... Even Aus A bowlers seem to have done their homework, not allowing too many balls to be played on the leg side after the quick start by Ind (from what I saw)

Edited December 11, 2020 by zen

[zen]

PS 111/6 in the 1st session 

Edited December 11, 2020 by zen

[sandeep]

I was looking for the paean to 'SDP' and didn't find it in 2 back-to-back Zen posts.  

 

Must say part of me is disappointed! 

[Bhoot]

Yes. Except kohli n pujara to certain extent we are a pathetic batting side. None of these so called upcoming talent is good enough. You will see it in 2 seasons. 

[Real McCoy]

Yeah we are not a good batting side anymore like we used to in the 00s. Its almost 90s level batting here.

[ShoonyaSifar]

Pink ball in Australia has  been a graveyard for visiting batsmen. Average first innings total is around 200. NZ, SA, England, SL, Pakistani have all struggled largely due to lack of enough practice.

[zen]

Some of these guys are avg 60 or more in FC  .... Primarily selecting batsmen based on Ind FC record is probably not working (never gave it too much importance in the first place). Selectors need to identify players by “watching” them play and studying their game esp. v good attacks .... For FC records to be more useful, the # of Ranji teams would need to be reduced to 8 if not less

 

 

[zen]

111/7 .... Magnificent 7 back in the hut 

[Suhaan]

11 minutes ago, zen said:

Some of these guys are avg 60 or more in FC  .... Primarily selecting batsmen based on Ind FC record is probably not working (never gave it too much importance in the first place). Selectors need to identify players by “watching” them play and studying their game esp. v good attacks .... For FC records to be more useful, the # of Ranji teams would need to be reduced to 8 if not less

 

 

Pink ball cricket is more about seam movements our batsmen historically have been quite poor countering that

Ranjis are not the same ,pre 2012-13 Ranjis generally had sameness about the pitches laid across the country,but things have changed it made sure atleast we tackle bounce but seam movement is something , tackling which has not been addressed yet

[zen]

Conway picks up a wkt too so Ind being generous to allow everyone who bowled to get wkts

[Gollum]

Also must remember our players haven't played FC for a long long time. Post corona crisis we just had that IPL and the recent white ball series. Aussies have been playing Shield cricket for over 2 months. Not saying we are a great batting unit or something, we must understand that we are terribly undercooked atm. Forget playing conditions, FC demands a mindset/temperament/application/shot-selection which can't be found in T20s. 

[zen]

Reminds me of the 100 odd & 66 odd all out in SA but at least the SA attack was top tier 

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, Bhoot said:

Yes. Except kohli n pujara to certain extent we are a pathetic batting side. None of these so called upcoming talent is good enough. You will see it in 2 seasons. 

What are you talking about? Apparently you don't remember our last "under the lights" test at Lord's or the tour to NZ 

 

Kohli & Pujara are arguably better but they're no SRT or Dravid in these conditions! The ball does move & can move really sideways here under the lights so anyone thinking we have a better chance than Oz of winning, or even beating them based on our last tour here must be smoking real real quality stuff 

 

Our best bet is a dry, slow surface always.

[Real McCoy]

Regardless of conditions, it will be a tough tour for us to win here against Smith and co in their backyard

[prudent_kreeda]

6 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Yeah we are not a good batting side anymore like we used to in the 00s. Its almost 90s level batting here.

 

I am saying it again ,  young guys who are playing regularly T20s  will find it very difficult to come good in tests even if there is slight help esp Openers .

I would say chance of good success as an opener could be  around 5% . 

Some one seriously interested to succeed in tests will have make that choice , he may try his hand in 50 at the most but not T20.  

So not much expectation from KL OR Shaw . Lets see. 

It would be better to look for pure openers who mostly play in 4-5 dayers  , has scored runs vs tier A teams and has ability to leave and also survive vs Bouncers .

Should look at Priyank Panchal, & the Bengal Opener and test them in A tours.. 

 

[zen]

I hope some of these guys redeem themselves in the 2nd innings to gain confidence before the first test. Another poor show with the bat, they may feel overwhelmed at the prospect of facing a much better Aus attack at Adelaide 

[Bhoot]

This is gonna be a repeat of 99 tour. Mark my words. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

37 minutes ago, Bhoot said:

This is gonna be a repeat of 99 tour. Mark my words. 

Tone set by the leader prioritising T20Is and even missing the only practice match, as it was his wedding anniversary y'day. 

[Bhoot]

3 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Tone set by the leader prioritising T20Is and even missing the only practice match, as it was his wedding anniversary y'day. 

As opposed to the best captain in the world who quit tests in between a series and ran away? 

 

He didnt play coz he wanted the others to get acclimatized to the conditions. That is my take on it. 

 

Stop bringing player's persnl stuff. You would probably get a good job in some tabloids. Keep it up. 

Edited December 12, 2020 by Bhoot

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, Bhoot said:

As opposed to the best captain in the world who quit tests in between a series and ran away? 

 

He didnt play coz he wanted the others to get acclimatized to the conditions. That is my take on it. 

 

Stop bringing player's persnl stuff. You would probably get a good job in some tabloids. Keep it up. 

Same captain didn't abandon his team even during birth of his first child

Stop being his PR