If Ravi ashwin isnt selected for Next t20 Wc, it ll be a blunder

[Ankit_sharma03]

The kind of form Ashwin is in he shud walk into our t20 team,he bowled superbly last IPL and has every thing that makes a t20 bowler.

 

Ashwin also becomes important for one more reason , his bowling against left handers

 

Eng- malan, Morgan, Stokes, Curran, moeen ali

WI- Gayel, Lewis, Narine, hetymer, pooran

NZ- Conway 

Aus- Warner, Wade, Carrey, Agar

 

England and WI will be big threats to us in WC so Ashwin becomes mighty more important. I hope selectors dont make this blunder

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

The kind of form Ashwin is in he shud walk into our t20 team,he bowled superbly last IPL and has every thing that makes a t20 bowler.

 

Ashwin also becomes important for one more reason , his bowling against left handers

 

Eng- malan, Morgan, Stokes, Curran, moeen ali

WI- Gayel, Lewis, Narine, hetymer, pooran

NZ- Conway 

Aus- Warner, Wade, Carrey, Agar

 

England and WI will be big threats to us in WC so Ashwin becomes mighty more important. I hope selectors dont make this blunder

in the early days, ashwin's T20 bowling affected his test bowling at times, but I think he has matured enough to be able to shift between formats. however, his fitness is fragile, and I'd rather see him play as many tests as possible. sundar is an effective replacement for ashwin the bowler in T20s (not in tests).

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

in the early days, ashwin's T20 bowling affected his test bowling at times, but I think he has matured enough to be able to shift between formats. however, his fitness is fragile, and I'd rather see him play as many tests as possible. sundar is an effective replacement for ashwin the bowler in T20s (not in tests).

Ashwin can retire now if he wants to in tests. He has done more than enough. He is bonafide ATg. Anyone that says otherwise deserves a slap. 

 

He won't retire thankfully. He is in beastly form. Just imagine if he got slightly fitter jeeee.

[Jay]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

The kind of form Ashwin is in he shud walk into our t20 team,he bowled superbly last IPL and has every thing that makes a t20 bowler.

 

Ashwin also becomes important for one more reason , his bowling against left handers

 

Eng- malan, Morgan, Stokes, Curran, moeen ali

WI- Gayel, Lewis, Narine, hetymer, pooran

NZ- Conway 

Aus- Warner, Wade, Carrey, Agar

 

England and WI will be big threats to us in WC so Ashwin becomes mighty more important. I hope selectors dont make this blunder

Good thought tbh. No to Kuldeep though? 

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, Jay said:

Good thought tbh. No to Kuldeep though? 

 

Lets see how he performs in IPL, just feel post his moeen ali bashing breakdown he is a different bowler. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

in the early days, ashwin's T20 bowling affected his test bowling at times, but I think he has matured enough to be able to shift between formats. however, his fitness is fragile, and I'd rather see him play as many tests as possible. sundar is an effective replacement for ashwin the bowler in T20s (not in tests).

 

Sundar bowling is nowhere close to ashwin in any format 

 

[Vijy]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Sundar bowling is nowhere close to ashwin in any format 

 

of course it's not. but it's the overall package that matters more in T20s. In T20s, one can get away with bowling 4 overs for 30, whereas in tests taking 20 wkts is more important. team india should prioritize Ashwin for Tests and then decide on a case-by-case basis for LOIs; for instance, he could be considered for marquee tourneys such as T20 WC and 50 over WC.

[zen]

Ashwin did well in last IPL in UAE but we know how the pitches were. In the WC in Ind, pitches would be flat so need to see how he is bowling on those 

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, zen said:

Ashwin did well in last IPL in UAE but we know how the pitches were. In the WC in Ind, pitches would be flat so need to see how he is bowling on those 

 

UAE pitches werent spin conducive they had more for fast bowlers.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, Vijy said:

of course it's not. but it's the overall package that matters more in T20s. In T20s, one can get away with bowling 4 overs for 30, whereas in tests taking 20 wkts is more important. team india should prioritize Ashwin for Tests and then decide on a case-by-case basis for LOIs; for instance, he could be considered for marquee tourneys such as T20 WC and 50 over WC.

 

for 8 he anyways wont get much batting in a 20 over game and anyways if thats the case bumrah, Nattu, Chahal everyone place comes in doubt then 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Deception.....variation of pace

[Serpico]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Ashwin also becomes important for one more reason , his bowling against left handers

 

Eng- malan, Morgan, Stokes, Curran, moeen ali

WI- Gayel, Lewis, Narine, hetymer, pooran

His left hand dominance don't extend to T20s, he is pretty much same against L/R in that format but he does own Gayle in IPL

[ShoonyaSifar]

15 matches, 13 wickets@30, ER of 7.7..how exactly are these great numbers?

 

Among Indian spinners, Chahal, Varun and Rahul Chahar all outbowled him.

 

Sundar's figures were 15 matches, 8 wickets@37, ER of 6, that too bowling mostly in the powerplays.

 

If we have to have a defensive bowler, Sundar is a better option.

 

 

[zen]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

UAE pitches werent spin conducive they had more for fast bowlers.

 

 

The pitches got slower as tournament progressed ... Indian spinners (and slow medium bowlers) did well (then there are likes of Rashid Khan too)

 

Best Bowling Average

 

POS	PLAYER	Mat	Inns	Ov	Runs	Wkts	BBI	Avg	Econ	SR	4w	5w
1	JaspritBumrah	15	15	60	404	27	4/14	14.96	6.73	13.33	2	0
2	Shivam Dube	11	5	9	73	4	2/15	18.25	8.11	13.50	0	0
3	Yuzvendra Chahal	15	15	57.1	405	21	3/18	19.28	7.08	16.33	0	0
4	Vijay Shankar	7	5	13.1	82	4	1/11	20.50	6.22	19.75	0	0
5	Varun Chakravarthy	13	13	52	356	17	5/20	20.94	6.84	18.35	0	1
6	Mohammed Siraj	9	9	27.1	236	11	3/8	21.45	8.68	14.81	0	0
7	Shahbaz Ahmed	2	2	6	44	2	2/26	22.00	7.33	18.00	0	0
8	Mohammad Shami	14	14	53.4	460	20	3/15	23.00	8.57	16.10	0	0
9	Murugan Ashwin	9	9	31.3	235	10	3/21	23.50	7.46	18.90	0	0
10	Shivam Mavi	8	8	26	212	9	2/15	23.55	8.15	17.33	0	0
11	Amit Mishra	3	3	10	72	3	2/35	24.00	7.20	20.00	0	0
12	Arshdeep Singh	8	8	24.5	218	9	3/23	24.22	8.77	16.55	0	0
13	Sandeep Sharma	13	13	52	374	14	3/34	26.71	7.19	22.28	0	0
14	Shardul Thakur	9	9	32.2	275	10	2/28	27.50	8.50	19.40	0	0
15	Rahul Chahar	15	15	53	433	15	2/18	28.86	8.16	21.20	0	0
16	Ravichandran Ashwin	15	15	51	391	13	3/29	30.07	7.66	23.53	0	0

Edited March 9, 2021 by zen

[vvvslaxman]

@velu favorite Chahal will be our frontline spinner.

[Lone Wolf]

I also think Ashwin should make it to WC.  Let's hope he repeats what he did in Ipl last year this year as well.  Only thing that goes against him is his fitness & fielding..  But I'll take him over Chahal

[ShoonyaSifar]

54 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

@velu favorite Chahal will be our frontline spinner.

Why not? In each IPL Chahal outbowled Ashwin by some distance. If IPL is the benchmark for selection, Chahal, Varun, Chahar, even Sundar are all ahead of Ashwin

[Gollum]

Let's see how he does in IPL. Not a bad idea to keep him in the squad and use him sparingly against certain teams. If he is near his best wonderful, I can't imagine someone like Chahal doing what Ashwin did in 2014 WT20, matter of ceiling. 

 

But OTOH I am more worried about his fitness, post the hernia episode he seems to break down suddenly all the time. Want to extract the best out of him in test cricket.

 

Varun C is my #1 pick, unleash the mystery bowler this edition, he is our trump card, X factor whatever terminology is in use these days. A wristy like Rahul Chahar/Chahal (Chahal is a much better T20 bowler, his weak format is ODI) and Sundar who can do the Ashwin role in PP maybe 85-90%. But I think we can get so much more out of Sundar batting him as opener, can be an MVP A/R, pity that won't happen under this TM. 

[bowl_out]

With Chahal and Jadeja as sure starters, I don't see a spot for a third spinner. So, Ashwin will likely miss out.

If anything,  they might use Varun C as the surprise package in some games. 

[Bigg Brother]

Ashwin is not going to play in LOIs again, that '17 CT final had major repercussion on his LOI career. Anyway, India have many options in this department.