zen Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, neel roy said: I agree but again we cant just for the sake of it go hard at the beginning and lose a match in a tournament just to give middle order a run.. its all about maximising the chances of win.. For the first 50-60 runs, some of these guys bat unnecessarily over cautiously View overall figures Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2018 Runs scored less than or equal to 60 Batting position between 1 and 3 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s MA Agarwal 2020-2020 5 5 0 86 32 17.20 83 103.61 0 0 0 12 1 PP Shaw 2020-2020 3 3 0 84 40 28.00 82 102.43 0 0 0 12 2 S Dhawan 2018-2020 29 28 1 644 51* 23.85 719 89.56 0 1 2 99 5 V Kohli 2018-2020 22 21 3 590 60 32.77 728 81.04 0 2 1 55 5 KL Rahul 2019-2020 8 8 0 204 57 25.50 292 69.86 0 1 1 17 2 Shubman Gill 2019-2020 3 3 0 49 33 16.33 71 69.01 0 0 0 5 1 RG Sharma 2018-2020 28 27 0 507 57 18.77 738 68.69 0 3 2 56 10 AT Rayudu 2018-2018 2 2 2 43 31* - 64 67.18 0 0 0 4 0 As I said, I would prefer an improvement in those SR rather than hope that they play like that to score a 200 in one of xyz games Rasgulla, sarchasm, RedFever and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Jamadagni Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 hours ago, zen said: For the first 50-60 runs, some of these guys bat unnecessarily over cautiously View overall figures Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2018 Runs scored less than or equal to 60 Batting position between 1 and 3 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s MA Agarwal 2020-2020 5 5 0 86 32 17.20 83 103.61 0 0 0 12 1 PP Shaw 2020-2020 3 3 0 84 40 28.00 82 102.43 0 0 0 12 2 S Dhawan 2018-2020 29 28 1 644 51* 23.85 719 89.56 0 1 2 99 5 V Kohli 2018-2020 22 21 3 590 60 32.77 728 81.04 0 2 1 55 5 KL Rahul 2019-2020 8 8 0 204 57 25.50 292 69.86 0 1 1 17 2 Shubman Gill 2019-2020 3 3 0 49 33 16.33 71 69.01 0 0 0 5 1 RG Sharma 2018-2020 28 27 0 507 57 18.77 738 68.69 0 3 2 56 10 AT Rayudu 2018-2018 2 2 2 43 31* - 64 67.18 0 0 0 4 0 As I said, I would prefer an improvement in those SR rather than hope that they play like that to score a 200 in one of xyz games Never realised Rohit's strike rate was that poor. I now have to agree with you. Rohit might win make up his low strike rate in one out of 5 matches. For the rest 4, it puts pressure on others and they have to make up for his slow innings. Kohli's is not that bad. But he should be striking at 90+. Link to comment
zen Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jamadagni said: Never realised Rohit's strike rate was that poor. I now have to agree with you. Rohit might win make up his low strike rate in one out of 5 matches. For the rest 4, it puts pressure on others and they have to make up for his slow innings. Kohli's is not that bad. But he should be striking at 90+. Kohli has said that they want to be more aggressive now so let's hope that translates in to some tangible improvement sarchasm and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Bachche ki jaan loge kya? The guy has 3 of the 8 200s scored in LOIs. Thats more than enough However, I would love to see Rohit score a few big 100s in the English summer in WTC finals and Eng tests. Edited March 22, 2021 by ShoonyaSifar Link to comment
Jay Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 52 minutes ago, sarchasm said: That piece of stat is specifically filtered to pick only the matches where Rohit flopped. Its only value - comic value - is to demonstrate if you have a total lack in life and unhealthy obsession, you turn into a retard like @zen If you take the cut-off date from that filter, you can see Rohit has played 45 matches in that time. In 28 of those matches where Rohit failed by his standards is shown in that stat above. So what happened in the rest of 17 matches? RGS average 160 at a SR of 104. I mean, here you have a opener who's practically winning you matches single-handedly in 17 out of 45 matches - 1 out of every 2.5 match. Now show me an opener who has done more......EVER. Warner? But yes not many at all. Rohit is special. Link to comment
sage Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Rohit will get the first ODI triple hundred. Bookmark this post. Link to comment
zen Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, sarchasm said: That piece of stat is specifically filtered to pick only the matches where Rohit flopped. Its only value - comic value - is to demonstrate if you have a total lack in life and unhealthy obsession, you turn into a retard like @zen If you take the cut-off date from that filter, you can see Rohit has played 45 matches in that time. In 28 of those matches where Rohit failed by his standards is shown in that stat above. So what happened in the rest of 17 matches? RGS average 160 at a SR of 104. I mean, here you have a opener who's practically winning you matches single-handedly in 17 out of 45 matches - 1 out of every 2.5 match. Now show me an opener who has done more......EVER. I suppose you are a lawyer? If so, I feel for your clients ... By posting the above, you have further strengthened my point (also batsmen do well post 60 runs is already implied so there is no need to post the above in the first place duh) ... Taking your stats at face value and adding 2 + 2, which you missed: First 50-60 runs, 61 to later (the four batsmen you have listed) Dhawan SR 90 -> then SR 102 Kohli SR 81 -> then SR 103 Rohit SR 69 -> then SR 104 Therefore, Dhawan & Kohli, the other highly experienced batsmen, match Rohit's performances despite starting off relatively quickly. Kohli, who plays relatively faster, has a higher % of converting those 50-60 into 60+ scores ... There is no real need to play extra slowly in most of your games (28 v 17, where he may have got chances too). He does have a higher avg (again received chances too), which is why he is still in the team Thank you! As for trying to make personal attacks, let's just say that likes you of you are probably only capable of that (so not surprised that you used the only skill you posses, like many on streets in Ind) Edited March 22, 2021 by zen Laaloo 1 Link to comment
zen Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Also I see that the blocked poster @Laaloo is still running around trying to gain my attention ... chute nahin hai, try somewhere else @Rasgulla like you said, I am living in his head rent free Edited March 22, 2021 by zen Laaloo and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, zen said: Also I see that the blocked poster @Laaloo is still running around trying to gain my attention ... chute nahin hai, try somewhere else @Rasgulla like you said, I am living in his head rent free It’s simple. I see you trolling, I hit the troll vote. Easy as that. sarchasm 1 Link to comment
zen Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Yeah, you keep doing that. Counting decimals like a panwaadi counts his chawanni at his paan ki dukaan. Want your sherlock holmes medal for figuring out our Gurunath likes to settle in like the royalty he is before he goes medieval on bowlers? Bad news, doofus. Everyone on this forum knows that without any need for your comic statsguru filters. But unlike you, they also know Gurunath is SO good, this is a low risk, high reward strategy for the team. Unlike you, most here can see the bigger picture. Data and stats isn't for you. Stick to making lameass initials like SDP to avoid future KLPDs. Naam Gurnunath and needs tons of balls to settle down as if he is some entitled guy (also gets tons of chances) when everyone gets off quickly Btw, where can I get a law degree w/o going to the college. When I was in Ind, I could do that but am out of touch now Laaloo 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Yes, most likely in this series itself. raki05 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Rohit is the best opener in world since past 10 years. He is GOAT opener in odi along with Sachin. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, zen said: I suppose you are a lawyer? If so, I feel for your clients ... By posting the above, you have further strengthened my point (also batsmen do well post 60 runs is already implied so there is no need to post the above in the first place duh) ... Taking your stats at face value and adding 2 + 2, which you missed: First 50-60 runs, 61 to later (the four batsmen you have listed) Dhawan SR 90 -> then SR 102 Kohli SR 81 -> then SR 103 Rohit SR 69 -> then SR 104 Therefore, Dhawan & Kohli, the other highly experienced batsmen, match Rohit's performances despite starting off relatively quickly. Kohli, who plays relatively faster, has a higher % of converting those 50-60 into 60+ scores ... There is no real need to play extra slowly in most of your games (28 v 17, where he may have got chances too). He does have a higher avg (again received chances too), which is why he is still in the team Thank you! As for trying to make personal attacks, let's just say that likes you of you are probably only capable of that (so not surprised that you used the only skill you posses, like many on streets in Ind) This manchild is shamelessly still stuck at those filtered cherry picked stats. Went into a hiding for a few months after the humiliation in the WC but refuses to learn. raki05, Nikola, sorak and 1 other 4 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 hours ago, sarchasm said: That piece of stat is specifically filtered to pick only the matches where Rohit flopped. Its only value - comic value - is to demonstrate if you have a total lack in life and unhealthy obsession, you turn into a retard like @zen If you take the cut-off date from that filter, you can see Rohit has played 45 matches in that time. In 28 of those matches where Rohit failed by his standards is shown in that stat above. So what happened in the rest of 17 matches? RGS average 160 at a SR of 104. I mean, here you have a opener who's practically winning you matches single-handedly in 17 out of 45 matches - 1 out of every 2.5 match. Now show me an opener who has done more......EVER. I schooled him enough on similar stats before the WC, when he went on a spree opening multiple threads a day to show his wizardry with StatsGuru filters. Thought he had learnt his lessons but then he refuses to learn raki05, Nikola and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 18 hours ago, zen said: For the first 50-60 runs, some of these guys bat unnecessarily over cautiously View overall figures Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2018 Runs scored less than or equal to 60 Batting position between 1 and 3 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s MA Agarwal 2020-2020 5 5 0 86 32 17.20 83 103.61 0 0 0 12 1 PP Shaw 2020-2020 3 3 0 84 40 28.00 82 102.43 0 0 0 12 2 S Dhawan 2018-2020 29 28 1 644 51* 23.85 719 89.56 0 1 2 99 5 V Kohli 2018-2020 22 21 3 590 60 32.77 728 81.04 0 2 1 55 5 KL Rahul 2019-2020 8 8 0 204 57 25.50 292 69.86 0 1 1 17 2 Shubman Gill 2019-2020 3 3 0 49 33 16.33 71 69.01 0 0 0 5 1 RG Sharma 2018-2020 28 27 0 507 57 18.77 738 68.69 0 3 2 56 10 AT Rayudu 2018-2018 2 2 2 43 31* - 64 67.18 0 0 0 4 0 As I said, I would prefer an improvement in those SR rather than hope that they play like that to score a 200 in one of xyz games Feel like being in April of 2019 again. Despite getting schooled, you are back at it. So here we go again. You missed some of the best filters on Statsguru like when the windspeed was 5 kmph, on ground temperature was 30 degrees or more, when Kohli skipped his breakfast and lastly on days when you missed your grade 3 maths lessons. Nikola and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
raki05 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I am not even sure why people looked in to stats when we have seen all these batsmen live . There can be difference of opinion on one's batting style but no body can question Rohit's match winning ability in Odis. And as if it's halwa to make 200 by playing slow in odi , many of the legendry batsmen considered great by stats pandit couldn't able to make one even against zim/bd and here we have someone who has scored it 3 times and still people question his batting ability. Someone spoke about drop catches in wc to undermine his centuries , go and check Lara's 153 on which people get orgasm not just catches were dropped but there were so many plumb lbw not given by wi umpires. There is only one loophole in Rohit's performance so far is his 50 over wc final /sf performance but in that regards all Indian batsmen are choker. Link to comment
zen Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Cricinfo probably took my cue and exposed how Rohit is able to get those runs: By not taking his catches, the opposition messed Ind up. The middle order remained relatively undercooked and the guy went missing when it counted (and finally catch taken) The guy is playing like 2-3 innings in one knock at times ... I wonder how many chances will he need to hit a 200 if he can probably on a small ground v some minnow More than tuk tuk (when the need is to be proactive), it could be about how many chances he gets ... even in the last T20, where he played his only decent inning in the series, he was dropped by Wood for e.g. Edited March 22, 2021 by zen Laaloo 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Thank god catches were dropped or else India would have gone out in 3-4 straight defeats in wc, wasn't there a match where we were about to loose against Afg. Thanks to Rohit centuries that we reached till semi..... one match he failed and entire phony middle order collapsed like no tomorrow. That sows greatness of Rohit other batsmen catches were dropped as well but they couln't even capitalize look at others though there catches were dropped but they are so far behind in run tally. Edited March 22, 2021 by raki05 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, zen said: Cricinfo probably took my cue and exposed how Rohit is able to get those runs: By not taking his catches, the opposition messed Ind up. The middle order remained relatively undercooked and the guy went missing when it counted (and finally catch taken) The guy is playing like 2-3 innings in one knock at times Manchild, this is the reason why you should watch matches and not rely on Statsguru or cricinfo for your cricket analysis. But then that takes some effort and grown up grey cells. Here is another lesson for you Vs SA, Rohit 122* in a chase of 228, no one else scored a 50 Vs Aus Rohit 57(70), out in 23rd over, India 352/5 Vs Pakistani Rohit 140(113), out in 39th over, India 336/5 vs Afg, Rohit 1(10), India 224/8 Vs WI, Rohit 18(23), India 243/8 Vs Eng Rohit 102(109), out in 37th over, Ind 306/5 Vs BD - Rohit 104(92), out in 30th over, Ind 314/9 Vs SL - Rohit 103(93), out in 31st over, India 265/3 Vs NZ Rohit 1(4), India failed to chase 239 Conclusion by the manchild "Rohit hogged the strike which left the middle order undercooked" Go back to your grade 3 maths lessons sorak, raki05 and sage 3 Link to comment
zen Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) besides Wood's in the last T20 from what I recall, Archer dropped him too in one of the games No honey drops on this occasion ... Eng should have dropped one more to help the poor guy get going and shore up his SR Edited March 22, 2021 by zen Laaloo 1 Link to comment
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