IPL ... Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners ....

[Jay]

17 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Exactly !

 

If our selectors build the squad based on the perception of those Sydney pitches in late 2020 then we will be in for a tough time.

 

A squad for multi-conditions and choosing the 11 based on the pitch, maybe the key. 

 

 

 

Just stick to standard template. Aussie template not dimwit kohli one. 

2 premium pacers. One fast express type bowler. 

Batting till 8. With 2 pace bowling all rounders. Csn be trundlers too no problem

One and only one spinner.

[express bowling]

Shami working up a lot of pace ... along with bounce, accuracy and seam movement.

 

Quite a few bslls at 143 k and 144 k and hurrying batters visually.

 

Seems to be in good rhythm.

 

One wicket ax a result.

Edited April 17, 2022 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

Ferguson bowled the quickest ball of the IPL at 154

[Vijy]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Ferguson bowled the quickest ball of the IPL at 154

looks like he took over from umran

[Chakdephatte]

Alzarri gets Rayudu caught at deep. Kept bowling wides and he had to throw his bat at one. Good set-up or maybe just missed his lines.

Edited April 17, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

Alzarri gets Rayudu caught at deep. Kept bowling wides and he had to throw his bat at one. Good set-up or maybe just missed his lines.

poor shot from rayudu. those dot balls seem to have exerted pressure on him

[rkt.india]

Mukesh is now bowling how he used to bowl in domestic. Always looked quite sharp in domestic cricket than what he had bowled till now in IPl. Today has bowled in 138-143 range.

[vishalvirsingh]

from my Perspective ( if I am a selector), pacers that I may select for each format in SENA countries ( in pace friendly pitches)

 

Rotation of Pacers is a must keeping them fresh and ready.

 

T20- Nattu , Khaleel , Deepak Chahar , Harshal , Shardul , Hardik , Bumrah , Prasidh , Avesh Khan ,  Arshdeep ( is a smart trundler)

 

ODI- Khaleel , Avesh , Shardul, Hardik , SHAMMI, Umran Malik, Kuldeep Sen , Prasidh , SIRAJ, bumrah , Umesh , Akash deep ( has a good bouncer), kuldeep sen

 

Tests- Umran Malik, Kuldeep Sen, Prasidh , Umesh Yadav, SHAMMI , Bumrah, SIRAJ, avesh Khan and KHALEEL, kuldeep sen and Hardik / Shardul ( not both)

 

Ignoring BHuvi as he is not at his best, also ignoring mavi/nagarkoti/ kartik tyagi as mavi underperformed and others have not played in this IPL.

 

Super fast bowlers DO NOT fit in ideally in a T20 Team as they can gift away some runs in the form of snicks , so in my t20 team , i have not picked kuldeep sen and umran malik. in nd International T20 Match a fast bowler has to try and stop runs and take wickets. 

 

Super fast bowlers are ideal for TESTS and fit in to ODI's.  Super fast bowlers like 4 over Spells and that's what they will get in Tests and ODI.  In Tests they may be required to bowl 16 overs in a day in 4 spells and in ODI , only 10 overs. Super fast bowlers like FREEDOM to bowl. Freedom means they do not want to be told to STOP RUNS , they always want to CLean Bowl  batsman OR get him Out. That happens in TESTS and a bit in ODI's.

 

Venkatesh Iyer can be considered for some T20 and ODI but mainly as batting all rounder so I have not written above. He is not a replacement to Hardik as Hardik can be a 5th bowler but venky can be a 6th bowler only.

 

 

[vishalvirsingh]

22 hours ago, Suhaan said:

When did Avesh bowl 146 this season?did i miss it?

did see in one of the matches...dont really remember which one... but i did see 145.x 

[singhvivek141]

On the topic of Umran Malik, why is everyone comparing his bowling action to Waqar Younis.
I am not able to draw any relation between their bowling actions, infact to me his action is more like Umesh Yadav.

 

Can anyone highlight me, what similarities Waqar and Umran have. Coz, most of the senior players (like Irfan Pathan) are going ga ga over the comparison and I am finding it really difficult to understand.

Edited April 17, 2022 by singhvivek141

[singhvivek141]

48 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

from my Perspective ( if I am a selector), pacers that I may select for each format in SENA countries ( in pace friendly pitches)

 

Rotation of Pacers is a must keeping them fresh and ready.

 

T20- Nattu , Khaleel , Deepak Chahar , Harshal , Shardul , Hardik , Bumrah , Prasidh , Avesh Khan ,  Arshdeep ( is a smart trundler)

 

ODI- Khaleel , Avesh , Shardul, Hardik , SHAMMI, Umran Malik, Kuldeep Sen , Prasidh , SIRAJ, bumrah , Umesh , Akash deep ( has a good bouncer), kuldeep sen

 

Tests- Umran Malik, Kuldeep Sen, Prasidh , Umesh Yadav, SHAMMI , Bumrah, SIRAJ, avesh Khan and KHALEEL, kuldeep sen and Hardik / Shardul ( not both)

 

 

 

 

Personally, I would keep Avesh away from tests, I really doubt he will have the fitness to survive the grills of 5 day test match. He to me looks like Md. Amir who will touch 140 in T20 but in Tests will bowl at 127-130.

Prasidh, Shardul in T20's will be a no-no if they have to bowl in slog overs. Kuldeep Sen has more tools to succeed in T20I as of now.
 

[rkt.india]

Saw Hangargekar in the crowd cheering in CSK jersey. Seems like have no plan of playing him or either he is injured. Otherwise should have been in dugout. Don't see him getting a game this season.

Edited April 17, 2022 by rkt.india

[Vijy]

26 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Saw Hangargekar in the crowd cheering in CSK jersey. Seems like have no plan of playing him or either he is injured. Otherwise should have been in dugout. Don't see him getting a game this season.

yes, CSK will stick to likes of Chris "Dinda" Jordan. no chance for hangu in this old man XI

[rkt.india]

12 minutes ago, Vijy said:

yes, CSK will stick to likes of Chris "Dinda" Jordan. no chance for hangu in this old man XI

With any other franchise had a chance to play. CSK needlessly bid for him when they only wants to play 35 years olds. 

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

With any other franchise had a chance to play. CSK needlessly bid for him when they only wants to play 35 years olds. 

they should release him, and at least some other team who values young pacers could snap him up. Imagine if he was acquired by SRH somehow. would be amazing to see umran, tyagi, and hangu bowling in tandem. I know it won't happen of course

Edited April 17, 2022 by Vijy

[flamy]

4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

On the topic of Umran Malik, why is everyone comparing his bowling action to Waqar Younis.
I am not able to draw any relation between their bowling actions, infact to me his action is more like Umesh Yadav.

 

Can anyone highlight me, what similarities Waqar and Umran have. Coz, most of the senior players (like Irfan Pathan) are going ga ga over the comparison and I am finding it really difficult to understand.

Looks like Umesh Yadav to me also

[DarkProfile]

On 4/10/2022 at 3:33 AM, DarkProfile said:

I've also seen this belief that overwork = success. Many people believe that going to gym daily is in their best interest, when actually it is the other way round. Rest is ESSENTIAL. An athlete should sleep for at least 9 hours daily for muscles memory, anti-ageing and anti-stress benefits. Roger Federer used to sleep 12 hours every day when he was at his peak. People think someone is fat because he eats a lot, when the silent culprit is lack of adequate sleep. All these injuries that befall on our cricketers, I suspect they are mostly from overwork and inadequate rest.

 

Yesterday, I heard the commentators revealing that Umran Malik likes to sleep 10-12 hours everyday. Excellent!

[singhvivek141]

RR has dropped Kuldeep Sen, after one failure.
That's the problem with Indian captains, they don't know how to manage a fast bowler. Luckily for Umran, Kane is there.

[Mosher]

Kuldeep Sen dropped?

[express bowling]

Why the f is Sen dropped after 1 bad game !!!!

 

He won them the game before !!! 

Edited April 18, 2022 by express bowling