Biden Govt Supports Lifting vaccine patent protections to help produce vaccines globally

[BacktoCricaddict]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/us/politics/covid-vaccine-patent-biden.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

 

Katherine Tai, the United States trade representative, announced the administration’s position in a statement on Wednesday afternoon.

“This is a global health crisis, and the extraordinary circumstances of the Covid-19 pandemic call for extraordinary measures,” she said. “The administration believes strongly in intellectual property protections, but in service of ending this pandemic, supports the waiver of those protections for Covid-19 vaccines.”

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Should India do the same with Covaxin?    

Edited May 5, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict

[coffee_rules]

I was expecting it to happen, wanted it to for so long. Some here had been skeptical, it seems like this is a big win against Big Pharma. It is the ethical thing to do by the scientific community. World is affected, it is not the time to think about IP. 

 

On a side note, maybe, this was the contentious issue between Bill and Melinda, leading to their divorce  Bill had opposed it.

[Yoda-esque]

I was expecting it to happen, wanted it to for so long. Some here had been skeptical, it seems like this is a big win against Big Pharma. It is the ethical thing to do by the scientific community. World is affected, it is not the time to think about IP. 
 
On a side note, maybe, this was the contentious issue between Bill and Melinda, leading to their divorce  Bill had opposed it.

I thought so too as well.Seems entirely plausible.

[BacktoCricaddict]

Tech transfer must be done carefully and highly selectively.  

 

I would be $hit scared if I was the scientist who developed these vaccines - esp the mRNA ones.  Very few countries have the infra, knowhow and regulatory framework to make sure these are manufactured correctly.   Even SII and BB are not set up to do this.  

 

If every Amar Akbar and Anthony starts a vaccine factory now, all hell will break loose.  

[BacktoCricaddict]

BTW, should Bharat Biotech give up their patent, too?  

 

 

[coffee_rules]

9 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

BTW, should Bharat Biotech give up their patent, too?  

 

 

yes, 

[BacktoCricaddict]

40 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

yes, 

What if Lahori Bhaijaan starts duplicate Covaxin factory in the other Hyderabad and makes substandard copy of Covaxin?  It will affect the entire reputation of Covaxin, no?  

 

While the overall idea of patent withdrawal is okay, it has to come with some oversight strings attached - release to specific companies who have the wherewithal to make it correctly.   

[Clarke]

There's been pressure for covaxin patent to be available to Indian manufacturers since Indian govt funded the vaccine development to an extent if not entirely. The question is, who will produce the vaccine ? GoI got some public orgs in line but they need to set up their facility to produce vaccines from scratch, the produce thus being many months away. Vaccine production is very diff from drug production and we've got more of the latter. Maybe that spray could be a savior.

 

The above question applies to all vaccines, who's gonna produce them ? Partnerships will be required to ensure quality, and those are already being set up given the business potential. Patent lifting is fine, partnerships will be the difference on the ground.

 

I reckon China can provide the numbers the same way it's producing Sputnik after its sino-shitshow. 

Edited May 6, 2021 by Clarke

[BacktoCricaddict]

11 minutes ago, Clarke said:

The above question applies to all vaccines, who's gonna produce them ? Partnerships will be required to ensure quality,

This.  A billion times this.  

[Vilander]

2 hours ago, Yoda-esque said:

his was the contentious issue between Bill and Melinda, leading to their divorce

capitalist vs socialist. but there are limits to capitalism, if the people who will buy the service are not existing anymore then its a sure no no for capitalism, this is one of those doomsday scenario. 

[Vilander]

37 minutes ago, Clarke said:

he above question applies to all vaccines, who's gonna produce them ? Partnerships will be required to ensure quality,

and teams that have expertise to help setup vaccine productions facilities in India and Africa  etc.. 

[Vilander]

47 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

it has to come with some oversight strings attached - release to specific companies who have the wherewithal to make it correctly.   

and some timelines. Bill gates was saying that that we should not take away the free enterprise incentive to invent these vaccines.. that's pertinent esp. if these vaccinations have to be repeated every 6 months etc. 

[Jimmy Cliff]

5 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

On a side note, maybe, this was the contentious issue between Bill and Melinda, leading to their divorce  Bill had opposed it.

 

"The couple sited irreconcilable differences on the most appropriate method to achieve depopulation as the primary reason for their split."

[rising]

Its good move but I don't know how it work out we already have lack raw material  as India were requesting US  send RAW materials so now where will Raw materials come from when existing facilities are only not able to work to capacity ? and if the quality is anyway compromised we might risk something else and setting up will take time  We could end of in all sort problems if the new setup doesn't have facility for  research with virus keeps on mutating their Vaccines will get outdated whithour changes. Companies are already talking about boosters now to counter mutations 

[mishra]

7 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

On a side note, maybe, this was the contentious issue between Bill and Melinda, leading to their divorce  Bill had opposed it.

So Modi can’t stay with his own wife, now he broke Bill Gates happy family too.

[diga]

4 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

"The couple sited irreconcilable differences on the most appropriate method to achieve depopulation as the primary reason for their split."

Wow ... where are you quoting this from? If true , then Bill Gates was another meglomaniac 

[Jimmy Cliff]

4 hours ago, diga said:

Wow ... where are you quoting this from? If true , then Bill Gates was another meglomaniac 

 

It was a joke man. Having said that, Gates certainly is a megalomaniac.

[Serpico]

16 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

On a side note, maybe, this was the contentious issue between Bill and Melinda, leading to their divorce  Bill had opposed it.

There must be some other angle, probably saves taxes or something. Bezos and some other billionaire also got divorced recently. It's naive to think they take these decisions because of arguments and differences in opinions like common plebs

[mishra]

Germany at it again. First they said, India has contractual obligation to supply vaccines. Now theses mofos are blocking patent waiver. No wonder world hates Nazis. Its bloodline of same people who gassed enmass. Effin Chinese stooges in EU.

Happy that we are out of EU

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57013096

 

Quote

Germany has voiced opposition to a US-backed proposal to waive patents on Covid-19 vaccines, saying they were not hindering production of the jabs.

Its government said "the protection of intellectual property is a source of innovation and must remain so".

The European Union earlier said it was ready to talk about the proposal, and some states gave it their full backing.

Supporters of the plan say it will allow more manufactures to produce the life-saving vaccines.

They argue that this will increase access to jabs in poorer countries.

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by mishra

[coffee_rules]

2 hours ago, Serpico said:

There must be some other angle, probably saves taxes or something. Bezos and some other billionaire also got divorced recently. It's naive to think they take these decisions because of arguments and differences in opinions like common plebs

I was j/k , who knows why they divorced.