Playing 2 spinners “overseas” a concern

[zen]

7 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

So he was the batsman, same thing we said all along.

Ind did not play 4 pacers earlier (went with 3+2 v 4+1) 

 

As for Jadeja, he is considered because he can bowl too, where his bowling in relatively unhelpful conditions can be a wash. Ind could look for more consistent option there as well if conditions remain seamer friendly 

[neel roy]

12 minutes ago, zen said:

Ind did not play 4 pacers earlier (went with 3+2 v 4+1) 

 

As for Jadeja, he is considered because he can bowl too, where his bowling in relatively unhelpful conditions can be a wash. Ind could look for more consistent option there as well if conditions remain seamer friendly 

Its sunny in london for the rest of the week. Jadeja in second innings will get lots of help. Lords tend to turn as play goes on

[neel roy]

7 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

So he was the batsman, same thing we said all along.

Thats the sad thing. He was the batsman. All the other accomplished ones were not.. when your no 7 becomes The Batsman it is indeed a big trouble..

[Trichromatic]

1 hour ago, zen said:

Ind did not play 4 pacers earlier (went with 3+2 v 4+1) 

 

As for Jadeja, he is considered because he can bowl too, where his bowling in relatively unhelpful conditions can be a wash. Ind could look for more consistent option there as well if conditions remain seamer friendly 

 

He can get into team with his batting alone. 

Jadeja didn't replace any pacer. It's choice of playing 4 pacers v 3 pacers and 1 spinners. Most of the time teams chose later.

[Lord]

51 minutes ago, neel roy said:

Its sunny in london for the rest of the week. Jadeja in second innings will get lots of help. Lords tend to turn as play goes on

 

if thats the case then Ashwin should get in too.

 

 

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, neel roy said:

Its sunny in london for the rest of the week. Jadeja in second innings will get lots of help. Lords tend to turn as play goes on

It won't be sunny even one day. Chances of rain too 

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

 

if thats the case then Ashwin should get in too.

 

 

Sunny doesn't mean it will help spinners. Lords never spinners much.

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Sunny doesn't mean it will help spinners. Lords never spinners much.

 

bhai sunny me nahi karega toh kya cloudy mein karega?and there wasnt much help for spinners in Aus too where he picked Smith and Labu more than once

 

Sunny will mean less movement for sure.

 

Our last two games at Lords were greentops.But there can be spin there.Moeen Bhai picked 6 here

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/sa-tour-of-england-2017-1031417/england-vs-south-africa-1st-test-1031437/full-scorecard

 

[neel roy]

49 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

It won't be sunny even one day. Chances of rain too 

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcpvhhdht#?nearestTo=St Johns Wood (City of Westminster)&date=2021-08-11
 

its showing more or less clear next 5 days.. today its very sunny here.. 

[rkt.india]

11 hours ago, Lord said:

 

bhai sunny me nahi karega toh kya cloudy mein karega?and there wasnt much help for spinners in Aus too where he picked Smith and Labu more than once

 

Sunny will mean less movement for sure.

 

Our last two games at Lords were greentops.But there can be spin there.Moeen Bhai picked 6 here

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/sa-tour-of-england-2017-1031417/england-vs-south-africa-1st-test-1031437/full-scorecard

 

Lords pitch don't help spinners, sunny or not. It is going to have grass. We have some block against Moeen. Aussie pitches have bounce for spinners. English pitches are soft and slow.

[Gollum]

Only Jaddu for T2, because he is the 3rd/4th best batsman in this squad.

 

Maybe for Oval test we can look at 2 spinners, won't be needed otherwise. But hope we keep rotating the quicks throughout the series. 

[Lone Wolf]

If Shardul is injured..  Ash comes in.  Jaddu doesn't look threatening at all as a spinner in England.  However his batting is big bonus & is better than our front line bats too.  He should play every game

 

[Jay]

Just play shankar at 6

 

6) shankar

7) jaddu

8 shardul

9) siraj

10) bumrah

11) umesh

 

 

[CodeOfWisden]

34 minutes ago, Jay said:

Just play shankar at 6

 

6) shankar

7) jaddu

8 shardul

9) siraj

10) bumrah

11) umesh

 

 

Shankar isn't a part of the test squad! 

How is it so difficult to grasp? 

What do you expect pull him from India and play him at lords without quarantine period? 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Just play shankar at 6

 

6) shankar

7) jaddu

8 shardul

9) siraj

10) bumrah

11) umesh

 

 

How come Shankar can fly out there in the middle of the Pandemic?  It's over for him dude..  Make peace with it

[Jay]

1 hour ago, CodeOfWisden said:

Shankar isn't a part of the test squad! 

How is it so difficult to grasp? 

What do you expect pull him from India and play him at lords without quarantine period? 

It's a blasphemy to not pick such players for English conditions. 

[Lord]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Lords pitch don't help spinners, sunny or not. It is going to have grass. We have some block against Moeen. Aussie pitches have bounce for spinners. English pitches are soft and slow.

 

that was v SA

[SRT100]

19 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

 

He can get into team with his batting alone. 

Jadeja didn't replace any pacer. It's choice of playing 4 pacers v 3 pacers and 1 spinners. Most of the time teams chose later.

 

The irony being, is that if he plays, I am confident he will score more runs that one of our top 6 batsmen.

[zen]

Jadeja still wkt less … Must be dreaming about rank turners

[Trichromatic]

2 hours ago, zen said:

Jadeja still wkt less … Must be dreaming about rank turners

So was Bumrah.