AuxiliA Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: BCCI will only expedite the process... I suspect after eventual exit from 2023 WC cricket might see a drastic fall in viewership in India. FIFA WC is catching the attention everywhere & u never know... Urban India is already disinterested nowadays with cricket. Football will never overtake cricket in India unless we have a decent football team. It will stay a metropolitan fad. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Football will never overtake cricket in India unless we have a decent football team. It will stay a metropolitan fad. That's why I said Urban India... It will for sure have a domino effect on other places too. Cricket is irrelevant in North East & will continue to be so in Eastern India. In extreme South we can see lesser interest already. North & Central India is cricket's prime Audience these days & continued failure & IPl getting lesser viewership means interest is fading slowly. WC 2023 could be a make or break for Cricket in India or a inflection point. Vijy, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: That's why I said Urban India... It will for sure have a domino effect on other places too. Cricket is irrelevant in North East & will continue to be so in Eastern India. In extreme South we can see lesser interest already. North & Central India is cricket's prime Audience these days & continued failure & IPl getting lesser viewership means interest is fading slowly. WC 2023 could be a make or break for Cricket in India or a inflection point. Even if India becomes a minnow in cricket, it will still remain the most popular commercial sport in India by a country mile, as long as we stay poor in Football. Sports are not driven by casual fans but by diehard fans. You underestimating Cricket's popularity in India too much. Sure it's 'craze' has gone down but that has happened due to other forms of entertainment taking over like Social Media, OTT, etc. Not because of football or other sports gaining popularity in India. Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Even if India becomes a minnow in cricket, it will still remain the most popular commercial sport in India by a country mile, as long as we stay poor in Football. Sports are not driven by casual fans but by diehard fans. You underestimating Cricket's popularity in India too much. Sure it's 'craze' has gone down but that has happened due to other forms of entertainment taking over like Social Media, OTT, etc. Not because of football or other sports gaining popularity in India. True Bangladesh has been failing for decades but cricket is still popular. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: True Bangladesh has been failing for decades but cricket is still popular. It's football fever in Bangladesh right now... There are rallies going around in favor of Argentina or Brazil around Dhaka & Sylhet... Yesterday's win will be celebrated but nothing will match FIFA fever in BD. Even in cricinfo they said that. Edited December 5, 2022 by Lone Wolf Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Even if India becomes a minnow in cricket, it will still remain the most popular commercial sport in India by a country mile, as long as we stay poor in Football. Sports are not driven by casual fans but by diehard fans. You underestimating Cricket's popularity in India too much. Sure it's 'craze' has gone down but that has happened due to other forms of entertainment taking over like Social Media, OTT, etc. Not because of football or other sports gaining popularity in India. It does not have to be another sport. As you said, people can play video games, watch movies and shows on mobile, spend time using Socia Media or watch something else on TV. And they are doing it. Edited December 5, 2022 by express bowling Vijy, Lone Wolf and SRT100 1 2 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, AuxiliA said: Football will never overtake cricket in India unless we have a decent football team. It will stay a metropolitan fad. Probably will piss off a lot of people with this, but genetically speaking, India does not have the physical prowess to play football and compete with the big teams, let alone the skill and tactical nous. Cricket allows for an average person of physical stature to dominate the game, which is one of many reasons why cricket will be India's only national past time. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 23 hours ago, Mosher said: Rohit and Dravid already have a team in mind so expect the same old team with the same old experienced seniors failing to win yet another wc tournament. He won't experiment much and rock the boat. No planning, he is just waiting for Bumrah and Jadeja to comeback and then all will be sorted. Bumrah Bhuvi and Pandya will be pacers, Chahal and Jadeja as spinners. Deepak/Shardul and Siraj will be in bench along with Washington. Remaining 7 will be Rohit, Kohli, Dhawan, KL, Shreyas, SKY and Pant. Sab kuch narrowed down hai. Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Pollack Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, SRT100 said: Probably will piss off a lot of people with this, but genetically speaking, India does not have the physical prowess to play football and compete with the big teams, let alone the skill and tactical nous. Cricket allows for an average person of physical stature to dominate the game, which is one of many reasons why cricket will be India's only national past time. Genetically Indians aren't suitable for any sports with demanding athleticism. On an unrelated note wonder why Tennis is not so popular in India? I see no reason Indians not to try Tennis. Vijy and SRT100 1 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Texan said: Those people are probably the more knowledgeable among the crowd. There are tons of Indian supporters who just watch games for hero worship, which is very unfortunate. Also, the worst part is that our journalists and even retired cricketers and commentators never question team selection when the same failed guys keep getting picked again and again in the name of "experience". Some of the journalists and retired cricketers are possibly paid PR. express bowling and SRT100 1 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, Pollack said: Genetically Indians aren't suitable for any sports with demanding athleticism. On an unrelated note wonder why Tennis is not so popular in India? I see no reason Indians not to try Tennis. In fairness in cricket, there was a stage we were a decent fielding side, when Jaddu, Kohli, Dhoni at their peaks. Mind you off the back of Ganguly, Laxman and Dravid, anything will look superior in the field. Link to comment
SRT100 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, nevada said: Some of the journalists and retired cricketers are possibly paid PR. Do they have to declare that they are or have a vested interest? In Australia, commentators have to declare this. Link to comment
SRT100 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: WC 2023 could be a make or break for Cricket in India or a inflection point. I have said it before, if we cant win the WC, I pray we get knocked out in the group stages. Its the only way it will lead to dramatic change. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, SRT100 said: I have said it before, if we cant win the WC, I pray we get knocked out in the group stages. Its the only way it will lead to dramatic change. Getting eliminated in the group stage will not bring any dramatic change. We got eliminated in group stage of WT20 2021 in the most embarrassing manner (110 AO). But then the same top order (rohit, kohli, KL) and almost the same middle order played in WT20 2022. Bowlers also were almost the same. Bhuvi & Shami....LOL... I think the only way there would be drastic change is if a larger chunk of our population decide to boycott Indian cricket completely. Drastic reduction in viewership will bring down bcci's revenue. I can already see IPeeL not getting the same attention any more among the youth. Edited December 6, 2022 by Frustrated Vijy 1 Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, SRT100 said: Probably will piss off a lot of people with this, but genetically speaking, India does not have the physical prowess to play football and compete with the big teams, let alone the skill and tactical nous. Cricket allows for an average person of physical stature to dominate the game, which is one of many reasons why cricket will be India's only national past time. Lol what? Hockey is an even more physically demanding sport than football and Indians (& Pakistani too) have completely dominated it. Our dominance ended only because we couldn't keep up with the modern sports infrastructure of the West. With money coming in we rising in Hockey again. South Asia lags behind in sports due to poverty and lack of infrastructure not because of genetics. Clarke, Suhaan, rollingstoned and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, SRT100 said: Probably will piss off a lot of people with this, but genetically speaking, India does not have the physical prowess to play football and compete with the big teams, let alone the skill and tactical nous. Cricket allows for an average person of physical stature to dominate the game, which is one of many reasons why cricket will be India's only national past time. playing footer is bloody hard for sure Link to comment
Arvind32 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, SRT100 said: Probably will piss off a lot of people with this, but genetically speaking, India does not have the physical prowess to play football and compete with the big teams, let alone the skill and tactical nous. Cricket allows for an average person of physical stature to dominate the game, which is one of many reasons why cricket will be India's only national past time. Have you ever been to gym or have play any sport ? If you been and then you should know that muscles are endurance are built putting body under pressure . Any ABCDE can be a force as long they are disciplined and follow practice and diet protocols . Indians or any other nation people are as capable as anyone else . No matter what human body it is . In regard to Football , First of all in india , it will never be so much popular because on a whole it lacks excitement and we Indians want 4and 6 every minute than waiting for a 1 goal in all game . Other thing , in football needs specialise strategy and style of play which takes lot of time to be perfected . Even countries like Chins and USA are struggling to master it . It not psychical power but the power of ball to control Pollack and Suhaan 1 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 14 hours ago, AuxiliA said: Lol what? Hockey is an even more physically demanding sport than football and Indians (& Pakistani too) have completely dominated it. Our dominance ended only because we couldn't keep up with the modern sports infrastructure of the West. With money coming in we rising in Hockey again. South Asia lags behind in sports due to poverty and lack of infrastructure not because of genetics. in some ways, hockey is more demanding, but I would not agree it is more demanding than footer as a whole. SRT100 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 14 hours ago, AuxiliA said: Lol what? Hockey is an even more physically demanding sport than football and Indians (& Pakistani too) have completely dominated it. Our dominance ended only because we couldn't keep up with the modern sports infrastructure of the West. With money coming in we rising in Hockey again. South Asia lags behind in sports due to poverty and lack of infrastructure not because of genetics. This is where you are wrong. Have a look at the era in which India dominated and then also look at the physical stature of their opposition at the time. Now compare that to 2022 its chalk and cheese, how strongly built the opposition is comparison to Indians of today. Indian men have failed to physically advance. Vijy 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 11 hours ago, Arvind32 said: Have you ever been to gym or have play any sport ? If you been and then you should know that muscles are endurance are built putting body under pressure . Any ABCDE can be a force as long they are disciplined and follow practice and diet protocols . Indians or any other nation people are as capable as anyone else . No matter what human body it is . In regard to Football , First of all in india , it will never be so much popular because on a whole it lacks excitement and we Indians want 4and 6 every minute than waiting for a 1 goal in all game . Other thing , in football needs specialise strategy and style of play which takes lot of time to be perfected . Even countries like Chins and USA are struggling to master it . It not psychical power but the power of ball to control Please I will not only undertake in providing you a masterclass on Exercise physiology, nutrition and performance, I will highlight to you the errors in your understanding, all day, every day, 7 days a week. You make it sound so simple how muscles are built and therefore demonstrated to me the clear lack of understanding and comprehension in this area. Building muscle and endurance involves a myriad of variables. It if was that easy, every single person including Indians would be well built with endurance. Your understanding actually amplified and resolved for me why Indians have failed to physically advance and also why Indians in Australia have failed to progress in the gym and almost always invariably fail and give up. So much so, that "Gym Fails In India" is often a source of ridicule and laughter for Westerners. If you dont believe google it and be amazed at the abundance of stupidity by Indians in the gym. Its little no wonder they fail to physically develop, aside from looking pregnant from overeating. Arvind32 1 Link to comment
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