dilliboy Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Just for fun, prepared a list for the top 8 nations. Time Period is 1992-2021. How many of you agree.... Please share your lists as well India - Sachin Tendulkar Pakistan - Wasim Akram Australia - Ricky Ponting England - James Anderson South Africa - Jacques Kallis New Zealand - Kane Williamson Sri Lanka - Muttiah Muralitharan West Indies - Brian Lara
goose Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Agreed apart from Australia - i'd pick McGrath over Ponting AuxiliA 1
Jamadagni Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Agree with all except for Australia..It's Steve Smith hands down. sensible-indian and f20143g70 2
express bowling Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 India .... Dhoni after 2016 ( kept reading that any good thing any of our players did were due to his guidance ) Pakistan .... Bottle Caps Australia .... Warne England .... Clouds and weather ( which make even ordinary seamers like Robinson run through sides ) New Zealand .... Team India ( our repeated losses to them at every critical juncture have made them the team they are ) West Indies .... Lara Texan, Singh bling, AuxiliA and 3 others 1 4 1
dilliboy Posted November 5, 2021 Author Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Jamadagni said: Agree with all except for Australia..It's Steve Smith hands down. If you only include Tests... Have considered all formats. Plus Ponting's captaincy
dilliboy Posted November 5, 2021 Author Posted November 5, 2021 2 hours ago, goose said: Agreed apart from Australia - i'd pick McGrath over Ponting It was a close call but I gave edge to Ponting for leading that dominant side as well
Jamadagni Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, dilliboy said: If you only include Tests... Have considered all formats. Plus Ponting's captaincy I was including odis as well. Smith was exceptional in knockouts.
maniac Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 India: Sachin Tendulkar. Not even a contest WI: Brian Lara: again obvious choice England: Jimmy Anderson Australia: this is a tough one. Toss up between Ponting,Mcgrath and Warne, I will go with Warne. SA: Toss up between AB,Steyn and Kallis. On impact will go with Steyn. Kallis was never a match winner and AB doesn’t have the returns proportional to his talent. Nzl: Kane Williamson. Srilanka: Mutalitharan. Toss up between Murali and Sanga Pakistan: Wasim Akram. Bangladesh: Shakib Zimbabwe: Andy Flower Afghanistan: Rashid Khan. It will take some doing for the next Afghan player to overtake Rashid’s legacy as a superstar from Afghan dilliboy, express bowling, AuxiliA and 1 other 4
dilliboy Posted November 5, 2021 Author Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jamadagni said: I was including odis as well. Smith was exceptional in knockouts. Only one WC though.. And overall as a ODI player Ponting is a far superior player
zen Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Considering multiple formats, different skills, and uniqueness. Australia: Warne … Best leg spinner of AT. Smart cricketer. Great performance in 1999 WC final as well Bangladesh: Sakib England: Pietersen … A batsman who can get into almost any team post 1990. Helped Eng win the 2010 T20 WC India: MSD … No Indian player has combined 3 skills as well as he has. Tournament winning captain of 07 T20WC and 11 WC, along with 2013 CT. New Zealand: Contenders for me include Martin Crowe, mostly a 80s player with some legendary performances versus WI, and Bond, who had a short but impactful career. NZ has not seen such a pace bowler yet (Hadlee was more of an 80s cricketer) … Martin retired in 1994 and his performance as a batsman and captain in 1992 WC was magical … Will go with Martin. Pakistan: Akram. Unique as a left arm pace bowler and considered the sultan of swing. South Africa: Steyn (Donald can be considered too, along with Klusener for uniqueness and impact) Sri Lanka: Murali West Indies: A competition between two magical cricketers - Lara and Ambrose. Tests b/w a declining WI and a rising Aus were stuff of legends and both these cricketers have sone out of the world performances. Lara has a great record versus McGrath-Warne … But will go with Ambrose for pulling off some sensational wins. 4th innings, Ambrose bowling, it is a different ball game. You have to see it to believe. Zimbabwe: Andy Flower Edited November 5, 2021 by zen New guy 1
maniac Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, zen said: New Zealand: Contenders for me include Martin Crowe, mostly a 80s player with some legendary performances versus WI, and Bond, who had a short but impactful career. NZ has not seen such a pace bowler yet (Hadlee was more of an 80s cricketer) … Martin retired in 1994 and his performance as a batsman and captain in 1992 WC was magical … Will go with Martin. Kane Williamson is one of their top run getters and probably will end up their best batsman of all times, won the WTC, should have won the WC if not from all the drama, almost a joint winner, IPL winner and captained a mediocre team well whenever required and potential WT20 contender as well. Martin Crowe retired in 1994 so he only played for 4 years the time frame mentioned of 30 years and after the 92 wc was pretty much done.
zen Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, maniac said: Kane Williamson is one of their top run getters and probably will end up their best batsman of all times, won the WTC, should have won the WC if not from all the drama, almost a joint winner, IPL winner and captained a mediocre team well whenever required and potential WT20 contender as well. Martin Crowe retired in 1994 so he only played for 4 years the time frame mentioned of 30 years and after the 92 wc was pretty much done. As I said, he did retire in 1994 but even in that short period, he gave some magical performances. If ppl actually watched Crowe, there is no competition with Williamson, who is not that great overseas. In fact, as a batsman + captaincy combo, I would pick Crowe over any Indian player as well. Just watch him play reverse swing, which almost everyone struggled against, v Pak. Edited November 5, 2021 by zen
R!TTER Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 2 hours ago, goose said: Agreed apart from Australia - i'd pick McGrath over Ponting I'd pick Gilly or Warne
New guy Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, zen said: Considering multiple formats, different skills, and uniqueness. Australia: Warne … Best leg spinner of AT. Smart cricketer. Great performance in 1999 WC final as well Bangladesh: Sakib England: Pietersen … A batsman who can get into almost any team post 1990. Helped Eng win the 2010 T20 WC India: MSD … No Indian player has combined 3 skills as well as he has. Tournament winning captain of 07 T20WC and 11 WC, along with 2013 CT. New Zealand: Contenders for me include Martin Crowe, mostly a 80s player with some legendary performances versus WI, and Bond, who had a short but impactful career. NZ has not seen such a pace bowler yet (Hadlee was more of an 80s cricketer) … Martin retired in 1994 and his performance as a batsman and captain in 1992 WC was magical … Will go with Martin. Pakistan: Akram. Unique as a left arm pace bowler and considered the sultan of swing. South Africa: Steyn (Donald can be considered too, along with Klusener for uniqueness and impact) Sri Lanka: Murali West Indies: A competition between two magical cricketers - Lara and Ambrose. Tests b/w a declining WI and a rising Aus were stuff of legends and both these cricketers have sone out of the world performances. Lara has a great record versus McGrath-Warne … But will go with Ambrose for pulling off some sensational wins. 4th innings, Ambrose bowling, it is a different ball game. You have to see it to believe. Zimbabwe: Andy Flower You didn't mention Dhoni's RPT express bowling 1
zen Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, New guy said: You didn't mention Dhoni's RPT Don’t be upset if MSD is chosen
New guy Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, zen said: Don’t be upset if MSD is chosen Am sure RPT will add to your case Edited November 5, 2021 by New guy
maniac Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, New guy said: Am sure RPT will add to yout case RPT and FCA don’t apply to a few players, last match a couple of Pandya hoicks were dropped and so was the FCA theory raki05 and New guy 2
New guy Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, maniac said: RPT and FCA don’t apply to a few players, last match a couple of Pandya hoicks were dropped and so was the FCA theory What is FCA now?
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