Rajat Patidar v Sarfaraz Khan

[Lone Wolf]

Both are currently in a great run in domestic cricket. 

Patidar just scored a ton in the Finals now at a brisk rate &,  we saw he was rather explosive for RCB in IPL & clutch as well in the century he scored vs LSG in eliminator. 

 

In my opinion Patidar has a solid backfoot game  & great range of strokes than Sarfaraz something we can really use in ODI & Test cricket.  Watch out for this guy

[Adamant]

Sarfaraz is a country mile ahead of Patidar. 

[Lone Wolf]

4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Sarfaraz is a country mile ahead of Patidar. 

How so??  Patidar has proved himself in IPl against some superior bowling.  Averaging 89 in this Ranji season.  2nd highest run scorer behind Sarfraz. 

[Vijy]

9 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

How so??  Patidar has proved himself in IPl against some superior bowling.  Averaging 89 in this Ranji season.  2nd highest run scorer behind Sarfraz. 

as far as tests are concerned, patidar's IPL record does not mean much - it acquires relevance for T20s. moreover, patidar has had one good (but not bumper, which is > 800 IMO) season, whereas sarfaraz has had 2 bumper ones in a row. moreover, in the first FC match against SA A on a challenging pitch with decent bowlers, sarfaraz made a 70-odd not out.

 

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by Vijy

[Majestic]

Fill in the blanks :-

 

1. Rohit

2. Shaw

3.

4.

5. Sarfaraz

6. Pant

7.

8. Shardul

 

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Fill in the blanks :-

 

1. Rohit

2. Shaw

3.

4.

5. Sarfaraz

6. Pant

7.

8. Shardul

 

why is rohit there? his fitness is much poorer than sarfaraz or pant; rohit has a very dodgy hamstring that is getting worse. currently, the best we can do is as follows:

 

1. ??

2. ??

3. ??

4. ??

5. ??

6. Pant

7. Jadeja/Ashwin

8. ??

and 3 bowlers from shami, prasidh, bumrah, umesh.

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Vijy said:

as far as tests are concerned, patidar's IPL record does not mean much - it acquires relevance for T20s. moreover, patidar has had one good (but not bumper, which is > 800 IMO) season, whereas sarfaraz has had 2 bumper ones in a row. moreover, in the first FC match against SA A on a challenging pitch with decent bowlers, sarfaraz made a 70-odd not out.

 

 

I think there's something about Patidar O noticed that in IPl as well.  Kohli Faf continued to provide poor starts yet Patidar was the one that carried them as soon as he was brought in.  Even some of his strokes in this Final inns look much superior than Sarfraz.  Might be a purple patch but yeah let's wait till next IPl or VHT.   Our batting stocks are very dry right now.  He is showing some great promise across formats which is rare. 

[Norman]

2 hours ago, Majestic said:

Fill in the blanks :-

 

1. Rohit

2. Shaw

3.

4.

5. Sarfaraz

6. Pant

7.

8. Shardul

 

 

Rohit is done. He'll definitely retire after the home tests against Australia unless we reach the wtc final. Shaw should be nowhere near the test side with that horrible technique against the incoming ball and has issues too against short ball. 

 

Ideally, I'd like a test lineup like this post the wtc 2023 cycle ends 

 

Rahul

Easwaran/Jaiswal

Gaikwad

Gill

Iyer (H) / Sundar (A) 

Pant

Jadeja

Axar/Shardul

Bumrah

Prasiddh

Siraj

 

[Vijy]

50 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I think there's something about Patidar O noticed that in IPl as well.  Kohli Faf continued to provide poor starts yet Patidar was the one that carried them as soon as he was brought in.  Even some of his strokes in this Final inns look much superior than Sarfraz.  Might be a purple patch but yeah let's wait till next IPl or VHT.   Our batting stocks are very dry right now.  He is showing some great promise across formats which is rare. 

patidar is a good strokemaker and also looks attractive when scoring them.

 

sarfaraz is more like ranatunga, boon, etc. type of batters (also in physique) but with more scoring ability. boon had a very good avg in a challenging period despite a somewhat limited repertoire of shots. sarfaraz has a lot of shots but his shot selection in LOIs is not yet on point. his FC SR (not just avg) is more indicative of his strengths.

[zen]

Have seen both the players bat so we are beyond the point where they are judged based on Ranji … Both have their pros, however, not sure anyone of them will get an opportunity in the near future 

[Jay]

13 hours ago, Vijy said:

why is rohit there? his fitness is much poorer than sarfaraz or pant; rohit has a very dodgy hamstring that is getting worse. currently, the best we can do is as follows:

 

1. ??

2. ??

3. ??

4. ??

5. ??

6. Pant

7. Jadeja/Ashwin

8. ??

and 3 bowlers from shami, prasidh, bumrah, umesh.

 

Jaiswal

Eeswaran

Shaw

Gilly

Pant Pure batsman

Sundar If fit or sarfraz

Bharat pure keeper bat

 

I am liking this what about you? 

 

Thayer Saddam iyer only for Asia and maybe england/new Zealand if he learns to counter swing.

 

For australia and s.africa he is an absolute no. 

Edited June 25, 2022 by Jay

[Majestic]

20 hours ago, Vijy said:

why is rohit there? his fitness is much poorer than sarfaraz or pant; rohit has a very dodgy hamstring that is getting worse. currently, the best we can do is as follows:

 

1. ??

2. ??

3. ??

4. ??

5. ??

6. Pant

7. Jadeja/Ashwin

8. ??

and 3 bowlers from shami, prasidh, bumrah, umesh.

The rule is that you cannot fit in a fat unfit player in the team who is still to merit a place in Indian team.

 

However, those who are integral part of the team can be dropped only depending on what they are bringing as overall package. Rohit seems to be the most assured batsman overseas on current form (when fit). So, he cannot be dropped. That's the first important factor for selection (overseas performance) and in that regard, Rohit is the most assured we are having on current form.

 

Shaw and Sarfaraz can only be picked if they pass the fitness test successfully. Once you merit a place in Indian team, then marginal differences can be ignored depending on your overall output.

[Lord]

Sarfaraz is younger,done better for longer and has been earmarked as prodigy for long.

[Lord]

9 hours ago, Majestic said:

The rule is that you cannot fit in a fat unfit player in the team who is still to merit a place in Indian team.

 

However, those who are integral part of the team can be dropped only depending on what they are bringing as overall package. Rohit seems to be the most assured batsman overseas on current form (when fit). So, he cannot be dropped. That's the first important factor for selection (overseas performance) and in that regard, Rohit is the most assured we are having on current form.

 

Shaw and Sarfaraz can only be picked if they pass the fitness test successfully. Once you merit a place in Indian team, then marginal differences can be ignored depending on your overall output.

 

Pant was fat when he was picked too. Cant have different rules for different people anyway

[Majestic]

30 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Pant was fat when he was picked too. Cant have different rules for different people anyway

He was picked after he passed the fitness test.

[maniac]

Sarfaraz has earned a shot. Patidar lol just based on IPL? Let him work more, there is a bigger line in front of him and Sarfaraz is at the start of the queue right now.

 

I feel he will be more exciting and attacking in tests than T20 which is not his game. Kind of like Sehwag/Slater and also what a refreshing change from Pu-Rane.

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Majestic said:

He was picked after he passed the fitness test.

so was Shaw. Then dropped because he failed them.

 

I'm not sure Pant passes fitness test these days. Unlikely

[R!TTER]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

has been earmarked as prodigy for long.

That doesn't mean anything, WTF has that baldy achieved who lead Mumbai to a humbling defeat in the finals?

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

That doesn't mean anything, WTF has that baldy achieved who lead Mumbai to a humbling defeat in the finals?

 

Equating team performances with players'

 

Check who's the MOTS and highest scorer with 2nd highest 300+ runs behind.

 

And its not even his first great season

[R!TTER]

You're talking about Shaw? Because last I checked Sarfraz hasn't had a hair implant (transplant?) recently