Surya kumar Yadav is a national treasure

[cowboysfan]

He doesnt know how to get easy singles and 2s,this is what makes Kohli a ODI great.He is a very good T20 batsmen but he may never be a good ODI player.

[SM2907]

luv de ka national treasure

[Vk1]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He is not a match winner in ODI. In T20 mindset of bowler is different. Also bowlers don't bowl long spells. Just 1 or 2 overs. his job is to upset them before they settle down and move on to next bowler. not the same in ODI. Good bowlers can bowl 5 overs on the trot. f he had done something outstanding at domestic level we would have known. Heck Even Venkatesh iyer had a great season. Jagadeesan scored 800 runs in a single season. Ruturaj has about 6 or 7 centuries in 12 VH matches. There are so many performers. Even Riyan Paraag has great record. All these guys were left out for this guy. very unfair. 

all the above names- most of them bat in top 3.. middle order game changers are rare.. I would agree for someone like rinku

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Vk1 said:

all the above names- most of them bat in top 3.. middle order game changers are rare.. I would agree for someone like rinku

 

That is where guys like Kohli have to start playing down the order. Coming in at 4. Even Rohit down the order can be mighty effective. 

[Frustrated]

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[MediumPacer]

From what i have seen he needs very easy batting tracks.

[Trichromatic]

In the search of intent, team is overlooking batting technique and ability to negotiate bowlers' skills.

[MediumPacer]

3 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

In the search of intent, team is overlooking batting technique and ability to negotiate bowlers' skills.

When England looked to up their batting intent post 2015,they produced some very easy batting pitches.It has to be backed by conditions .Sl pitches can get sluggish ,but sometimes they are very easy paced as well.

[R!TTER]

5 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Symonds was a batting AR.   Took crucial wickets with the ball in almost every match.   His overall value to the side was immense.  While SKY is a specialist batsman whose avg and SR are at par with Shardul (who is our no 9 batter).  

Symonds was a big reason why Oz won 2003 & 2007 WC - Surya is not in the same para when comparing them!

[Frustrated]

9 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Symonds was a big reason why Oz won 2003 & 2007 WC - Surya is not in the same para when comparing them!

+ 1.    Symonds was a game changer for Aus in every dept.  A real match winner.  Single handedly won them many crucial encounters incl the one against Pak in 2003 WC when Aus were struggling early on and were 80/4.  Mentioning both in the same para is laughable.  (I didn't do it though. The other poster did)    

[Trichromatic]

2 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

When England looked to up their batting intent post 2015,they produced some very easy batting pitches.It has to be backed by conditions .Sl pitches can get sluggish ,but sometimes they are very easy paced as well.

 

There batsmen have out batted others on difficult tracks also.

[Suhaan]

59 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

+ 1.    Symonds was a game changer for Aus in every dept.  A real match winner.  Single handedly won them many crucial encounters incl the one against Pak in 2003 WC when Aus were struggling early on and were 80/4.  Mentioning both in the same para is laughable.  (I didn't do it though. The other poster did)    

He was a genius,could bowl seamup,off spin

Could consolidate and accelerate,was a true AR

Could do all round thing

 

I have never seen a greater MO player than him+was a tremendous fielder,he was the last piece for that all conquering side

[MediumPacer]

2 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

 

There batsmen have out batted others on difficult tracks also.

Where?And these aren't difficult pitches but not ideal for strokeplay.

[Lord]

The hype this guy has based on just one hit and giggle format

[MediumPacer]

India has never been that great an odi side ,dont see the harm in trying him instead of just pushing and prodding against spin. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

The hype this guy has based on just one hit and giggle format

 

Side effect will be , it will ruin his T20 game as well. He will start being tentative even in that format. He was national treasure until he was picked for ODI.  Now he is national pressure.

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

The hype this guy has based on just one hit and giggle format

I also thought intially he was all hype but whenever I saw him bat in t20s for India and in IPL.He batted with such freedom and lack of fear of failure, I was sold on his ability.

 

He has not replicated any of his t20 battting.I feel he is trying to change his style in odis.He needs to go after bowling from ball one and if he gets out so be it.

 

Sehwag is prime example, he did not change his style much in any format and was fairly successful in all formats.

 

Yuvi tried to change his style in test so never could do well.

 

[AKane]

19 minutes ago, putrevus said:

He has not replicated any of his t20 battting.I feel he is trying to change his style in odis.He needs to go after bowling from ball one and if he gets out so be it.

Well then he will get out.

 

Issue is this - he comes in at no 6. On a good track the top order will do well and he gets to bat at over 35-40. This is when the closing bowlers for opposition start operating and they try to shut down runs by say bowling yorkers etc. Not easy to hit out all the time. Need 1s and 2s with occasional 4.

 

On the other hand when the track has life and 4 wickets fall inside 100 runs, it is not a T20 track. Now this fellow cannot bat on a juicy track for the bowlers because one needs to milk singles and 2s with the even less occasional 4.

 

50 overs on the trot is not easy - it is more intense than test cricket. Where T20 is about half a session, 50 overs is 1.5 sessions with no lunch or tea break in between. That matters too.

[vvvslaxman]

15 minutes ago, AKane said:

Well then he will get out.

 

Issue is this - he comes in at no 6. On a good track the top order will do well and he gets to bat at over 35-40. This is when the closing bowlers for opposition start operating and they try to shut down runs by say bowling yorkers etc. Not easy to hit out all the time. Need 1s and 2s with occasional 4.

 

On the other hand when the track has life and 4 wickets fall inside 100 runs, it is not a T20 track. Now this fellow cannot bat on a juicy track for the bowlers because one needs to milk singles and 2s with the even less occasional 4.

 

50 overs on the trot is not easy - it is more intense than test cricket. Where T20 is about half a session, 50 overs is 1.5 sessions with no lunch or tea break in between. That matters too.

 

If your basics are good you will not hav eproblem adapting to each format. Harry Brook has done it. SKy 85% relies on fancy shots in T20. In ODIs conventional stroke play is the key. He doesn't have the basics. Honestly even a sarfraz khan, prithvi shaw would do better than him.

[vvvslaxman]

The real reason SKY is backed so much is ....

 

The demand for Yadav, who works with companies such as Royal Stag, Forma Helmets, FanCraze's Faze NFT, Maxima Smartwatches, Dream11, Pintola peanut butter, and Boult Audio, has surpassed that of peers such as K.L. Rahul and Rishabh Pant. Yadav also endorses SS cricket equipment, owned by Sareen Sports Industries