Transgender man ( ??? ) got pregnant by his transgender wife ( ??? ) !!!

[velu]

old news though ..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Real McCoy 

 

 

https://thetalkstoday.com/who-are-roberto-bete-and-erika-feeh-pregnant-transgender-man-on-calvin-klein-ad-draws-controversy/

[coffee_rules]

Heard a tedTalk kind of show on NPR. A gay man trapped  in a woman’s body, she liked men as a man! Get it. started to have sex change operation , takes harmones to have sex change. Does look like a man, retains a part of Uterus.  She/he dates a man and they are a couple now. They think of having a baby. She/he now takes woman’s harmones and restores the uterus. They conceive a baby while he still looks like a man. They had a traumatic pregnancy with people around them cursing she would have a demon baby with 4 arms and legs. Very traumatic pregnancy. She delivers a fine baby and a healthy one.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by coffee_rules

[ravishingravi]

Must say US is great cautionary tale. As people get more affluent and self centered they begin to lose their mind. 

[Vijy]

22 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Heard a tedTalk kind of show on NPR. A gay man trapped  in a woman’s body, she liked men as a man! Get it. started to have sex change operation , takes harmones to have sex change. Does look like a man, retains a part of Uterus.  She/he dates a man and they are a couple now. They think of having a baby. She/he now takes woman’s harmones and restores the uterus. They conceive a baby while he still looks like a man. They had a traumatic pregnancy with people around them cursing she would have a demon baby with 4 arms and legs. Very traumatic pregnancy. She delivers a fine baby and a healthy one.

 

 

 

 

it sounds like something out of a movie

[someone]

14 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

Must say US is great cautionary tale. As people get more affluent and self centered they begin to lose their mind. 

 

Check the video of What is a Woman, BY Matt Walsh.

 

Any Indian perspective of those living in USA, on these gender identities and politics?

[Alam_dar]

All the answers are presented in this video.

Science is already heavily on the side of Left Wing on the Transgender Issues. 

RW is traditional, and it will take a lot more time for them to get rid of their old traditional views, which are going against science and humanity.  

 

 

[coffee_rules]

2 hours ago, someone said:

 

Check the video of What is a Woman, BY Matt Walsh.

 

Any Indian perspective of those living in USA, on these gender identities and politics?

Just identity politics that keeps Dems relevant and they don't have to be bothered about economy or inflation. People with kids have  it difficult now, as they are not letting decide the sex of the kid and can be declared by the kid after 12 without any parental supervision, in some liberal states like CA. It's getting ugly.  This is prevalent among those born after 2000. In a few years, most of them will be gender neutral.

 

I guess there is no end to this marginalized individuals recognition. 

[someone]

3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Just identity politics that keeps Dems relevant and they don't have to be bothered about economy or inflation. People with kids have  it difficult now, as they are not letting decide the sex of the kid and can be declared by the kid after 12 without any parental supervision, in some liberal states like CA. It's getting ugly.  This is prevalent among those born after 2000. In a few years, most of them will be gender neutral.

 

I guess there is no end to this marginalized individuals recognition. 

 

How much is this include the minority population? Indians, Blacks or Latinos? I presume these gender identities is concentrated among white population? But will it eventually affect the Indian families there?

[coffee_rules]

26 minutes ago, someone said:

 

How much is this include the minority population? Indians, Blacks or Latinos? I presume these gender identities is concentrated among white population? But will it eventually affect the Indian families there?

Indian families usually reside in affluent white communities or urban. So, what's good for the goose , is good for the gander. I know one family who have had such issues where the girl kid is confused and parents are at the mercy of the school authorities. There is a conspiracy of indocrination into such groups and it rings true now. Most teachers are liberal and support such measures. A principal in our school district is known to be very much into such campaigns and very popular among kids.

[BacktoCricaddict]

1 hour ago, someone said:

 

How much is this include the minority population? Indians, Blacks or Latinos? I presume these gender identities is concentrated among white population? But will it eventually affect the Indian families there?

 

 

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/

 

• Over 1.6 million adults (ages 18 and older) and youth (ages 13 to 17) identify as transgender in the United States, or 0.6% of those ages 13 and older. 
• Among U.S. adults, 0.5% (about 1.3 million adults) identify as transgender. Among youth ages 13 to 17 in the U.S., 1.4% (about 300,000 youth) identify as transgender. 
• Of the 1.3 million adults who identify as transgender, 38.5% (515,200) are transgender women, 35.9% (480,000) are transgender men, and 25.6% (341,800) reported they are gender nonconforming. 
• Research shows transgender individuals are younger on average than the U.S. population. We find that youth ages 13 to 17 are significantly more likely to identify as transgender (1.4%) than adults ages 65 or older (0.3%). 
• The racial/ethnic distribution of youth and adults who identify as transgender appears generally similar to the U.S. population, though our estimates mirror prior research that found transgender youth and adults are more likely to report being Latinx and less likely to report being White compared to the U.S. population. 

[gattaca]

4 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Just identity politics that keeps Dems relevant and they don't have to be bothered about economy or inflation. People with kids have  it difficult now, as they are not letting decide the sex of the kid and can be declared by the kid after 12 without any parental supervision, in some liberal states like CA. It's getting ugly.  This is prevalent among those born after 2000. In a few years, most of them will be gender neutral.

 

I guess there is no end to this marginalized individuals recognition. 

@BacktoCricaddict 
I don’t know if you guys know about below case. Seems pretty bad for the dad who wanted to complain about the bathrooms. 

 

 

https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/scott-smith-father-loudoun-county-public-schools-student-assaulted-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-board-meeting-arrest-case-title-ix-virginia

[BacktoCricaddict]

Yes, it is all new and confusing and frustrating that our traditional understanding of sex and gender changing.  Perhaps, some individuals are co-opting the transgender discussions for self-promotion. Perhaps, some children get caught up in the moment and identify differently to get attention. So what?

 

Who are we - 99.5% of the population - that has not had these experiences to just disdainfully dismiss what that 0.5% feels just because we cannot feel the same things?  These folks have been ill-treated, marginalized, called all kinds of slurs from a young age etc. ... for centuries. Now, they are coming out in the open and owning their biology. The least we can do is show some compassion. Be good to the child as they figure things out and let them find their way. Eff society.

 

In my job as a professor, I have encountered several transgendered youngsters aged 19 - 24.  All of them absolute gems - academically brilliant and supremely compassionate. They have discussed how they were shunned by their peers and families growing up. Not bitter at all - just fighting their way into college, performing brilliantly while here, getting into medical college or PhD programs, and taking up activism to educate people so others don't go through what they did.

 

Here's something to read on this topic: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-of-biological-sex/

 

To take the position that the gender assigned at birth is completely objective and unambiguous, the beginning and ending of biological sex, is to also believe that external genitalia as manifested at birth are 100% determinative of every other aspect of biological sex. But we know this not to be true. It’s definitely not true for secondary sexual characteristics, which can vary significantly, it’s not true for sexual orientation, and it’s not true for gender identity. 

 

All things considered, I think an objective look at the science of biological sex indicates that humans are sexually dimorphic and bimodal, but that biological sex is much more complicated than it may at first appear and is not strictly binary. While we still need to do a lot more research to fully understand the trans / gender non-binary phenomenon, it seems that variations in gender identity are just one more manifestation of biological sexual variability. There is also no one system to categorize all of biological sex (do we use chromosomes, genes, hormone levels, genitalia, gametes?), and certainly humanity cannot be placed entirely into two categories. The binary system breaks down in the middle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

15 minutes ago, gattaca said:

@BacktoCricaddict 
I don’t know if you guys know about below case. Seems pretty bad for the dad who wanted to complain about the bathrooms. 

 

 

https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/scott-smith-father-loudoun-county-public-schools-student-assaulted-stone-bridge-high-bathroom-board-meeting-arrest-case-title-ix-virginia

Of course it is bad for him as it would be for the father of any girl who was sexually assaulted by any person - transgendered or not - in the bathroom.  As sad as it is, do you feel it is fair to use it as a weapon to dismiss all transgendered people as sexual assaulters?  Certainly not.

Edited July 15, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict

[gattaca]

1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Of course it is bad for him as it would be for the father of any girl who was sexually assaulted by any person - transgendered or not - in the bathroom. 

Don’t know whats happening. There are bad apples who are trying to take advantage of bathroom rule for transgender but a school board doing this is bad. 

[BacktoCricaddict]

3 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Don’t know whats happening. There are bad apples who are trying to take advantage of bathroom rule for transgender but a school board doing this is bad. 

The kid was declared guilty in a court of law. Their gender fluidity excuse was not valid 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/in-case-at-center-of-political-firestorm-judge-finds-teen-committed-sexual-assault-in-virginia-school-bathroom/2021/10/25/42c037da-35cc-11ec-8be3-e14aaacfa8ac_story.html

 

Many studies have shown that sexual assaults in public bathrooms have not gone up when transgendered people are allowed to use the bathroom they want.

 

 

[coffee_rules]

55 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Yes, it is all new and confusing and frustrating that our traditional understanding of sex and gender changing.  Perhaps, some individuals are co-opting the transgender discussions for self-promotion. Perhaps, some children get caught up in the moment and identify differently to get attention. So what?

 

Who are we - 99.5% of the population - that has not had these experiences to just disdainfully dismiss what that 0.5% feels just because we cannot feel the same things?  These folks have been ill-treated, marginalized, called all kinds of slurs from a young age etc. ... for centuries. Now, they are coming out in the open and owning their biology. The least we can do is show some compassion. Be good to the child as they figure things out and let them find their way. Eff society.

 

In my job as a professor, I have encountered several transgendered youngsters aged 19 - 24.  All of them absolute gems - academically brilliant and supremely compassionate. They have discussed how they were shunned by their peers and families growing up. Not bitter at all - just fighting their way into college, performing brilliantly while here, getting into medical college or PhD programs, and taking up activism to educate people so others don't go through what they did.

 

Here's something to read on this topic: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-of-biological-sex/

 

To take the position that the gender assigned at birth is completely objective and unambiguous, the beginning and ending of biological sex, is to also believe that external genitalia as manifested at birth are 100% determinative of every other aspect of biological sex. But we know this not to be true. It’s definitely not true for secondary sexual characteristics, which can vary significantly, it’s not true for sexual orientation, and it’s not true for gender identity. 

 

All things considered, I think an objective look at the science of biological sex indicates that humans are sexually dimorphic and bimodal, but that biological sex is much more complicated than it may at first appear and is not strictly binary. While we still need to do a lot more research to fully understand the trans / gender non-binary phenomenon, it seems that variations in gender identity are just one more manifestation of biological sexual variability. There is also no one system to categorize all of biological sex (do we use chromosomes, genes, hormone levels, genitalia, gametes?), and certainly humanity cannot be placed entirely into two categories. The binary system breaks down in the middle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bhari bharkam bhasha! But why should it be made a policy decision in school districts? Let people decide, just like tobacco and alcohol. they have to be 21 to decide, but at 12 years are they mature enough to decide what sex to orient to? This is getting out of hand. All this language is good when not connected personally. It is good for others in campaigns, but acceptance at a personal family level takes time especially when you feel your 12-year old can be coerced by activist teachers. 

[Alam_dar]

 

While these issues of personality start occurring at this age. 

 

It is the same that kids of 12 years old are given full sex education in the Liberal Left West. Initially, the whole world opposed them, but gradually the whole world started following them. 

 

Liberal Left is not a monster as they are blamed to be. Their only fault is that they try to break the century old traditions in light of science and humanity. 

 

33 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

Let people decide, just like tobacco and alcohol. they have to be 21 to decide, but at 12 years are they mature enough to decide what sex to orient to?

 

My personal opinion is these things (tobacco and alcohol) cannot be compared with issues of sex education and sexual orientation. 

 

33 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

This is getting out of hand. All this language is good when not connected personally. It is good for others in campaigns, but acceptance at a personal family level takes time especially when you feel your 12-year old can be coerced by activist teachers. 

 

Only a few children in the whole class/school had to suffer from these issues, and it is not handled by any activist teacher, but by professional psychologists. And activist teacher may refer the case on the basis of his/her observation, but surely it is handled by professionals. 

 

Please also ponder upon it that we fear the 'influence' of an activist teacher, but why don't we fear the "Extreme Influence" of traditional parents and family upon the small kids? 

 

In short, scientific studies have shown that these new measures have much more positive results upon the children, and indeed the rate of suicide among transgenders and others has gone down due to these new measures. 

 

Gradually, acceptance is indeed increasing in the liberal Western societies for transgenders and other LGBTs and they are indeed enjoying their life much better than living in any traditional or religious society. 

 

The happiness of an individual human being is much  more important than any old tradition or any religion. 

 

 

 

[coffee_rules]

11 hours ago, Vijy said:

it sounds like something out of a movie

No., it was a real story. it felt very real. Was driving at that time, it was really moving (no pun). It is minute handful of cases, but I am still to come to terms with the politics and mainstreaming of it. It is unsettling. In the recent past, how many chars on TV/FILMS have we seen with gender issues. Every one of them. Makes you wonder about how prevalent it is. The politics is affecting personally now.

[Vilander]

On 7/14/2022 at 8:13 AM, coffee_rules said:

Heard a tedTalk kind of show on NPR. A gay man trapped  in a woman’s body, she liked men as a man! Get it. started to have sex change operation , takes harmones to have sex change. Does look like a man, retains a part of Uterus.  She/he dates a man and they are a couple now. They think of having a baby. She/he now takes woman’s harmones and restores the uterus. They conceive a baby while he still looks like a man. They had a traumatic pregnancy with people around them cursing she would have a demon baby with 4 arms and legs. Very traumatic pregnancy. She delivers a fine baby and a healthy one.

 

 

 

 

 

[nevada]

21 minutes ago, Vilander said:

 

Mind blown. Serenity now, serenity now!!!