Late Cut Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 The masses are up in arms, arguing about who screwed up! There is detailed analysis, arguments and counter arguments, stats geeks spit out all sorts of corner cases….but…. The most important thing is the damn toss of a coin, not talent, not skill. Dumb luck. The only sport where dumb luck is the primary thing that matters. It’s like winning money on a slot machine. Stupidest sport ever. nevada, nitinbwj and Mariyam 2 1
Vk1 Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) agree.. I can't think of any other popular sport where weather, pitch conditions can impact the result to this level.. conditions favor so much that it looks like the opp team is asked to swim with one hand tied to their back Edited September 10, 2022 by Vk1 nitinbwj and nevada 2
Khota Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Late Cut said: The masses are up in arms, arguing about who screwed up! There is detailed analysis, arguments and counter arguments, stats geeks spit out all sorts of corner cases….but…. The most important thing is the damn toss of a coin, not talent, not skill. Dumb luck. The only sport where dumb luck is the primary thing that matters. It’s like winning money on a slot machine. Stupidest sport ever. So you think India lost because of toss?
jf1gp_1 Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Khota said: So you think India lost because of toss? Had we won both the toss, I am sure we would have won at least one of them.
Jay Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Khota said: So you think India lost because of toss? 100%
Late Cut Posted September 10, 2022 Author Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Khota said: So you think India lost because of toss? Think? No. It’s a fact. Same for any team. No need to overanalyze. Edited September 10, 2022 by Late Cut
badmash Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 When your team loses, everything becomes stupid
Khota Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 7 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Had we won both the toss, I am sure we would have won at least one of them. 6 hours ago, Jay said: 100% 5 hours ago, Late Cut said: Think? No. It’s a fact. Same for any team. No need to overanalyze. India lost due to failure of top batting. India lost due to fielding. India lost due to poor spin bowling. India lost due to poor so called allrounders. India lost due to irresponsible shot. India lost due to a low energy coach. Yes, it was the toss. A team like India should overcome a toss disadvantage. Team India will never improve if they blame toss.
Jay Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Khota said: India lost due to failure of top batting. India lost due to fielding. India lost due to poor spin bowling. India lost due to poor so called allrounders. India lost due to irresponsible shot. India lost due to a low energy coach. Yes, it was the toss. A team like India should overcome a toss disadvantage. Team India will never improve if they blame toss. That's true.
Lord Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 Toss wasn't mentioned when India won in first game v Pak Then it was ,' is Hardik better than Klusener' badmash 1
coffee_rules Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Khota said: India lost due to failure of top batting. India lost due to fielding. India lost due to poor spin bowling. India lost due to poor so called allrounders. India lost due to irresponsible shot. India lost due to a low energy coach. Yes, it was the toss. A team like India should overcome a toss disadvantage. Team India will never improve if they blame toss. Arrey, top batting was fairly good. In the one good match we won, they failed, but MO chased a low score. In matches lost, MO batting failed to finish well after great starts, in both matches. Sky, Pant, Pandya, Hooda. India can’t win consistently without such a inconsistent MO. Plus the bowling from Bhuvi, Chahal and Pandya was the key reason
Khota Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Arrey, top batting was fairly good. In the one good match we won, they failed, but MO chased a low score. In matches lost, MO batting failed to finish well after great starts, in both matches. Sky, Pant, Pandya, Hooda. India can’t win consistently without such a inconsistent MO. Plus the bowling from Bhuvi, Chahal and Pandya was the key reason Look at top and see how they did against SL. If Dravid is half decent coach the opening should be a competition between Rahul, Shaw, Gill and Dhawan. No room for Pandya. Sky is a pie in the ???
coffee_rules Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Khota said: Look at top and see how they did against SL. If Dravid is half decent coach the opening should be a competition between Rahul, Shaw, Gill and Dhawan. No room for Pandya. Sky is a pie in the ??? Rohit gave the impetus till he 10th over against SL, 40-ball 70. It was the MO finish that lacked. DL has to come back to this MO for his finishing skills
Late Cut Posted September 10, 2022 Author Posted September 10, 2022 I guess some reading comprehension issues abound over here: The sport is stupid because winning the toss is more critical than talent or skill for EVERY team (not just India). yes, india won because they won the toss and chased yes, Pakistan won because they won the toss and chased yes, Sri Lanka won because they won the toss and chased yes, the same issue existed in the IPL at certain pitches.
Khota Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, Late Cut said: I guess some reading comprehension issues abound over here: The sport is stupid because winning the toss is more critical than talent or skill for EVERY team (not just India). yes, india won because they won the toss and chased yes, Pakistan won because they won the toss and chased yes, Sri Lanka won because they won the toss and chased yes, the same issue existed in the IPL at certain pitches. That is part of sports, tosses, dropped catches bad calls. Need to overcome those.
Need4Speed Posted September 10, 2022 Posted September 10, 2022 We should keep losing the toss..till we start winning consistently without winning the toss
Vijy Posted September 11, 2022 Posted September 11, 2022 yes, it is a pretty stupid sport... and I wonder what that says about those who watch it. Norman 1
Singh bling Posted September 11, 2022 Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 5:24 AM, Late Cut said: The masses are up in arms, arguing about who screwed up! There is detailed analysis, arguments and counter arguments, stats geeks spit out all sorts of corner cases….but…. The most important thing is the damn toss of a coin, not talent, not skill. Dumb luck. The only sport where dumb luck is the primary thing that matters. It’s like winning money on a slot machine. Stupidest sport ever. If toss is problem in T20 then toss along with bidding should be considered. For example if one captain win then plus in multiple of 5 runs should be bid. Khota 1
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