Pakistan batsman vs Off spin in last 2 years , Case for Ravi Ashwin

[Ankit_sharma03]

Babar Azam 

 

T20i s/r 

2021 - 77.8

2022- 114

 

overall - 111.5 

 

T20 

2021- 90.9

2022 -78.3 

overall - 110.9 

 

Rizwan

 

T20I

2021- 110.2

2022- 112.3 

 

Overall - 108.9 

 

T20 

2021- 123.1

2022- 82.3

 

overall - 94. 8 

 

Nawaz 

T20i - 104. 2

T20 -  57.7

 

Shadab 

T20i - 154 

T20 - 133

 

Ifthikhar ahmed 

T20i - 75

T20 - 75

 

Shan masood

T20i- 121.9

T20- 133.6

 

Khushdil shah 

T20i - 104.7

T20 - 95.6 

 

Haider Ali 

T20i - 105.9

T20 - 87.5

 

Fakhar Zaman 

T20i- 103 

T20 - 137

 

 

• Apart from shadab none are going strong against Off spin
• Nawaz will be promoted again if we play chahal and shadab n nawaz both play leg spin well
• Need batting depth also in Tail 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

some of the s/r of these batsman are comical - under 100 

[Stan AF]

Please NO..

 

When has ashwin won any game with the ball in ODIs/T20Is?.

He was rightly discarded in ODI's/T20is and hasn't done zilch in this format. He was a total loss in last year wc as well.

[vvvslaxman]

This Bracewell dude is not exactly a spinner in traditional sense. He is a refined version of Kedar Jadhav. Difficult to get under his bowling.  With Ravi Ashwin with that high arm action you have enough time to get under it.

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Babar Azam 

 

T20i s/r 

2021 - 77.8

2022- 114

 

overall - 111.5 

 

T20 

2021- 90.9

2022 -78.3 

overall - 110.9 

 

Rizwan

 

T20I

2021- 110.2

2022- 112.3 

 

Overall - 108.9 

 

T20 

2021- 123.1

2022- 82.3

 

overall - 94. 8 

 

Nawaz 

T20i - 104. 2

T20 -  57.7

 

Shadab 

T20i - 154 

T20 - 133

 

Ifthikhar ahmed 

T20i - 75

T20 - 75

 

Shan masood

T20i- 121.9

T20- 133.6

 

Khushdil shah 

T20i - 104.7

T20 - 95.6 

 

 

• Apart from shadab none are going strong against Off spin
• Nawaz will be promoted again if we play chahal and shadab n nawaz both play leg spin well
• Need batting depth also in Tail 

Interesting. This is worth considering as even their right hand batsmen don't seem to take down off spin very well. 

 

Their spin hitters in the middle will most likely  be Shadab, Nawaz and Haider Ali. 

 

 

[Adamant]

Not sold on Ashwin. 

He would become the first off spinner to get carted by these players. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Interesting. This is worth considering as even their right hand batsmen don't seem to take down off spin very well. 

 

Specially with bigger grounds 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Stan AF said:

Please NO..

 

When has ashwin won any game with the ball in ODIs/T20Is?.

He was rightly discarded in ODI's/T20is and hasn't done zilch in this format. He was a total loss in last year wc as well.

 

He can run out bastman at non striker end lol

[coffee_rules]

They have Fakhar now, who will automatically play. How is his stats against spin?

[Mohan Swamy]

Ashwin is a much better option than Chahal. Can be used very effectively in the powerplays and against left handers in general. In my opinion he should play every game over Chahal.

[vvvslaxman]

Kuldeep would have owned this guys in current form.  He gets more bounce at a place like MCG.  Keeping him completely on the sidelines is bizarre

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

They have Fakhar now, who will automatically play. How is his stats against spin?

let me check 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

They have Fakhar now, who will automatically play. How is his stats against spin?

Fakhar

 

T20i- 103 

T20 - 137

 

International is poor as he hasnt done well in international t20 overall , as far i hve seen him in PSL he actually plays off spin fine 

[the don]

Fakhar, haider, nawaz and shadab will be facing spin. Post the stats of these guys.

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, the don said:

Fakhar, haider, nawaz and shadab will be facing spin. Post the stats of these guys.

Fakhar , Nawaz, Shadab already posted 

Haider ali ill update 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, the don said:

Fakhar, haider, nawaz and shadab will be facing spin. Post the stats of these guys.

posted - only shadab has good numbers and somewhat fakhar but just at domestic level 

[Lone Wolf]

Pakistan is traditionally one of the best players when it comes to off spin.. 

Quality Leg spin & left arm spin troubles them. 

 

They regularly bash Moeen Bhai & struggle vs Maharaj. 

 

[Lone Wolf]

Ashwin has a terrible record vs Pak.  Hasn't forgitten that Afridi phainty since 2014...  Then CT17...  Hell no. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Pakistan is traditionally one of the best players when it comes to off spin.. 

Quality Leg spin & left arm spin troubles them. 

 

They regularly bash Moeen Bhai & struggle vs Maharaj. 

 

in Past they were and playing well vs hitting is where difference has come as u can see s/r among all batsman apart from shadab

Against leggies Shadab-Nawaz are very good , they got in lefties to counter this issue . Their righties apart from shadab are unable to take toll on offies but shadab-nawaz has helped them to play leggies in recent times.  The minute oppositon bowls leggies they promote nawaz like they did against us when chahal came to bowl who now is our only leggie since bishnoi didnt travel 

 

SLA has always been an issue and still is 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Ashwin has a terrible record vs Pak.  Hasn't forgitten that Afridi phainty since 2014...  Then CT17...  Hell no. 

his avg is 33 (not good)

his eco is 5.56 (excellent) 

 

So havent hurt , in t20 if u do thats actually good 

 

U wanna play Chahal ?