MICHAEL VAUGHAN: India are the most under-performing team in white-ball history

[singhvivek141]

21 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

No thank you. 

 

The team needs someone who is tactically strong, can think strategically and install a long-term plan and convince authorities to stick with it, but can also build good rapport with the players and get them to do the needful without being an arse-wipe.  Too much to ask?

I know Greg Chappell's era was tainted due to x,y,z reasons and ego clashes. But that era, also helped us unearth many young fast bowlers.

Sreesanth, RP, Munaf all were found out in his era (Sreesanth was a sensation in that challenger trophy)......he tried his best with Venugopal Rao, JP Yadav but they flopped...however Irfan the batman, MSD the pinch hitter were promoted a lot during his tenure. It was his vision which gave us Suresh Raina, even Kaif had a great stint with the bat whenever he used to be promoted at no 3.

He was flexible with his plans, but to an extreme level which wasn't good. However as our current team is pretty much rigid, a bit of flexibility will do no harm.

 

[coffee_rules]

44 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

... which is why BCCI should designate a group of 30 or so T20 specialists and let them play other leagues so they become all-condition performers, learn from multiple inputs and stay match-fit always.  

They chicken out doing that because they think will lose the golden egg laying goose aka IPL brand value. Brand loyalty over nation’s. 

[vvvslaxman]

We have been banging for years about players with no utility value.

[vvvslaxman]

The word "experience" is a curse in T20. That does more harm than help

[vivek04]

Politics and nepotism is killing Indian cricket 

[figo6762]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

The word "experience" is a curse in T20. That does more harm than help

I don’t think word is a curse .. the type of experience is the problem .. case in point hales , he’s played this brand of cricket across leagues.. selectors just pick players on popularity . 
 

look at the selection committee :

Chetan Sharma , Sunil Joshi, Abey kuruvilla ( has been absent since feb) , harvinder singh , debasis mohanty.. 

 

These guys are known for a brand of cricket , I.e . Lackluster , safe , no ownership cricket .. 

 

they were terrible cricketers as well , maybe Sunil joshi and Sharma can be excused .

 

but imho they have not qualification to pick a t20 squad which should be :

- bashful

- self confident 

- strong / fit 

- fearless 

 

the concept of fearless gets connected to experience in India . Only if you are experienced you become fearless , to an extend I agree but , you cannot change players games and natural flare in format they just don’t fit . With this approach even piñata should pay t20 

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

54 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

I know Greg Chappell's era was tainted due to x,y,z reasons and ego clashes. But that era, also helped us unearth many young fast bowlers.

Sreesanth, RP, Munaf all were found out in his era (Sreesanth was a sensation in that challenger trophy)......he tried his best with Venugopal Rao, JP Yadav but they flopped...however Irfan the batman, MSD the pinch hitter were promoted a lot during his tenure. It was his vision which gave us Suresh Raina, even Kaif had a great stint with the bat whenever he used to be promoted at no 3.

He was flexible with his plans, but to an extreme level which wasn't good. However as our current team is pretty much rigid, a bit of flexibility will do no harm.

 

 

If there is someone with all those qualities minus the uncouth behavior and disrespect for all people, then yes.  There's probably a good reason he hasn't caught on as a prime coaching candidate - his people skills are abysmal. 

[BacktoCricaddict]

27 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

They chicken out doing that because they think will lose the golden egg laying goose aka IPL brand value. Brand loyalty over nation’s. 

Cricketing success does not define a nation in any way, but I see where you are coming from.  For me, the brand I support is Team India. 

[coffee_rules]

1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Cricketing success does not define a nation in any way, but I see where you are coming from.  For me, the brand I support is Team India. 

By Nation’s , I meant National team’s . 

[Lone Wolf]

33 minutes ago, vivek04 said:

Politics and nepotism is killing Indian cricket 

Nepotism flag bearer Jay Shah...  Idol for Hair implant merchants.  So many qualities in one man. 

I'd be tempted to make Mishraji as BCCI president with closest to perfect resume. 

[Gollum]

P4P the worst international sports team of all time, forget cricket. If as many nations took cricket as seriously as football, heck even 25%, light would shine favorably on our football team.

[RajBan]

1 hour ago, sarchasm said:

Looking forward to WC'23 with Indian top 4 that reads - Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, and KL.

I don't see any other player breaking into top 4. Infact in all probability S Iyer who is same mould will be at 5 with Pandya at 6. The marketing tag will be that KL Rahul is the wicketkeeper batsman.

 

None of Gill, Sky, Shaw, will be anywhere close to the team. Pant may be in the squad as a backup keeper and that's about it.

[coffee_rules]

13 minutes ago, RajBan said:

I don't see any other player breaking into top 4. Infact in all probability S Iyer who is same mould will be at 5 with Pandya at 6. The marketing tag will be that KL Rahul is the wicketkeeper batsman.

 

None of Gill, Sky, Shaw, will be anywhere close to the team. Pant may be in the squad as a backup keeper and that's about it.

Who is the first choice keeper? 

[RajBan]

19 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Who is the first choice keeper? 

None other than our graceful KL Rahul. He will be the keeper batsman.

[coffee_rules]

Just now, RajBan said:

None other than our graceful KL Rahul. He will be the keeper batsman.

You are being bitter now. KL is not a first keeper in any format. Checkout our last ODI we played in England. Sky is yet to break into ODI team. Pant is a shoo-in, backup will be Ishan/Samson or KL if need be. 

[cricketfan28]

everyone is waiting for this opportunity, bashing goes on.

[RajBan]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

You are being bitter now. KL is not a first keeper in any format. Checkout our last ODI we played in England. Sky is yet to break into ODI team. Pant is a shoo-in, backup will be Ishan/Samson or KL if need be. 

 Pant may be a shoo in based on keeping credentials but that's all theory as Indian team selection does not really happen on merit. If you don't agree, that's fine, not going to debate with you.

[coffee_rules]

8 minutes ago, RajBan said:

 Pant may be a shoo in based on keeping credentials but that's all theory as Indian team selection does not really happen on merit. If you don't agree, that's fine, not going to debate with you.

Do you want to bet that Pant is not going to be the first choice keeper for ODIs from here on? After the 100 in England, there is no other choice. 

[Vijy]

if we need to try finisher-keeper, might as well as try some other hacks in domestics - prabhsimran, jitesh, etc

[Vijy]

glad that Troll Vaughan wrote a meaningful piece for once