Texan Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 2021, 2023 and even 2025. Why are they hosting all WTC finals? Surely, the venue needs to be rotated between the major teams. putrevus and express bowling 2 Link to comment
sandeep Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 "home of cricket". On a serious note, people don't realize the amount of damage Shashank 'snake' Manohar did. He allowed a complete re-write of the ICC board structure which has placed the ECB and 'independent executives' that it controls firmly at the helm of the ICC. They are just better at camouflaging it. rangeelaraja, express bowling, Lord and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment
sage Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 England has the best time zone and fills up neutral matches the best due to large immigrant population Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 FTP is designed that way.... Cycle ends in April/May... Hence the final in June. Next cycle starts after June. Can't host a final of Cycle 1 in the middle of Cycle of 2... That would be shambles. In June only Eng & WI can host cricket. Favorable time zone means Eng wins it hands down. Revenue + we get good crowds. Link to comment
Texan Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: FTP is designed that way.... Cycle ends in April/May... Hence the final in June. Next cycle starts after June. Can't host a final of Cycle 1 in the middle of Cycle of 2... That would be shambles. In June only Eng & WI can host cricket. Favorable time zone means Eng wins it hands down. Revenue + we get good crowds. That's an interesting take. England does have rain disturbances though duirng this time. 1 full day was lost in the first WTC final to rain. So it is not a perfect location either. I think we could find a venue in India where monsoon has less impact in the month of June to host a final. Australia could probably host it in Darwin or Cairns. I know these aren't traditionally used for hosting Tests, but they have hosted in the past. Or we could pick a neutral venue like Dubai. Giving all WTC finals to England just because of timing makes it unfair. If England reach the final, they gain a home advantage every time they play. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Texan said: That's an interesting take. England does have rain disturbances though duirng this time. 1 full day was lost in the first WTC final to rain. So it is not a perfect location either. I think we could find a venue in India where monsoon has less impact in the month of June to host a final. Australia could probably host it in Darwin or Cairns. I know these aren't traditionally used for hosting Tests, but they have hosted in the past. Or we could pick a neutral venue like Dubai. Giving all WTC finals to England just because of timing makes it unfair. If England reach the final, they gain a home advantage every time they play. Yes only England won't prepare the pitch. It will be ICC. Still a massive advantage. Dharamsala could host a Test match in June. Only place in India. With weather permitting. No huge rain threat in June in North West at least. But not sure ICC or BCCI views it as premier test venue ahead of Eden or Chinnaswamy or Wankhede. No Dubai/Sharjah at this time of the year. Impact of Monsoon in Sri lanka at this time is also unknown or they start late? Cairns or Darwin are not fit enough for this big occasion. They are secondary venues. Terrible pitches as well. Kiwis recently played ODIs there. Link to comment
Lord Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 44 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: FTP is designed that way.... Cycle ends in April/May... Hence the final in June. Next cycle starts after June. Can't host a final of Cycle 1 in the middle of Cycle of 2... That would be shambles. In June only Eng & WI can host cricket. Favorable time zone means Eng wins it hands down. Revenue + we get good crowds. Surely that can be tweaked a bit to hold the final in say September. or May when we hold IPL anyway Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lord said: Surely that can be tweaked a bit to hold the final in say September. or May when we hold IPL anyway Again England won't give up its home summer... BCCI won't give up its precious IPL window. June was all that was left unfortunately. No effort has been made to alter the FTP. Dharmasala is the only option left. Now with three finals fixed we can't do much. BCCI doesn't cares. Lord 1 Link to comment
Texan Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Another option is to make the WTC a 2 1/2 year affair so that finals are alternately held in June and December. If finals are always played in June, then SA, NZ, Aus have virtually no chance of hosting, which is unfair. Link to comment
neel roy Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 3 hours ago, sandeep said: "home of cricket". On a serious note, people don't realize the amount of damage Shashank 'snake' Manohar did. He allowed a complete re-write of the ICC board structure which has placed the ECB and 'independent executives' that it controls firmly at the helm of the ICC. They are just better at camouflaging it. India accepts it due to only one thing AND that is they want money and all England stars in Pan Bahaar t20 series and during IPL. .. you give some you take some.. Aus sends their full t20 and odi squad for a 3 match series flying all the way from melbourne.. India sends their C squad to NZ. India even agreed to play 5 tests against England and Aus away to help their board.. Link to comment
StraightDrive26 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I think it is the timing. Most of the countries don't have cricket season during that time. The only countries where they can play cricket in June/July is the Asian countries, England & WI. SA, Australia, NZ don't play cricket at home during that time due to the weather. Also the western teams wouldn't want to play the finals in Asia. I hope that if two Asian countries make the finals in the future the game is played in Asia instead of England. Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Why should it be held only during June. World Cup 50 over was initially held in England too, we all know what happened next. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, putrevus said: Why should it be held only during June. World Cup 50 over was initially held in England too, we all know what happened next. so that it can take place in "home of cricket". just more of world cricket pandering to english egos Link to comment
ungboysj Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 WTC is just agimmick. its not important only test series against australia nz sa matter Link to comment
First class Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Again England won't give up its home summer... BCCI won't give up its precious IPL window. June was all that was left unfortunately. No effort has been made to alter the FTP. Dharmasala is the only option left. Now with three finals fixed we can't do much. BCCI doesn't cares. In June, England or stunning Dharmasal , makes sense . Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: FTP is designed that way.... Cycle ends in April/May... Hence the final in June. Next cycle starts after June. Can't host a final of Cycle 1 in the middle of Cycle of 2... That would be shambles. In June only Eng & WI can host cricket. Favorable time zone means Eng wins it hands down. Revenue + we get good crowds. Dharmshala or Bangalore can host in June Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Why does it have to be in June ???? Have one WTC cycle for 2.5 years. After that the WTC Finals can be held in December in India, Australia, South Africa or Sri Lanka by rotation. 2 Calender Years for each cycle. 4 options are much better than.1. sarchasm, Lone Wolf and putrevus 3 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 It needs to be rotated, if it wants to become a bigger thing, it will need to marketed properly where other countries get to host it. express bowling 1 Link to comment
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