Indian Players Mentally Very Weak

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Seeing the Ashes, it further emphasis how mentally weak Indian players are.

 

It is like warrior Karna, you can have all the skill in the world but if you can't use it when needed the most it is pointless.

 

As mentioned previously, talent without temperament is nothing.

 

India need Pant like players asap, unfortunately not many of them in Indian Cricket.

[R!TTER]

You're disrespecting Karna by comparing him with these assholes, he was almost forced by the Gods (Krishna & Indra) to give up his kavach/weapon & by extension his life!

[Prabhdeep Singh]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You're disrespecting Karna by comparing him with these assholes, he was almost forced by the Gods (Krishna & Indra) to give up his kavach/weapon & by extension his life!

 

I agree Karan was great and was cursed, I was just using example of Indian Players in important matches Vs Karna in his most important final duel against Arjun.

 

Indian players always fail.

[tweaker]

The seniors have made this mess.They have become bigger than the game.If they are not performing and dropped than it would have keep them on toes.

 

The dropping of Kishan after 200,selection of Rahane and Pujara,seniors playing in top three in every match,have been worst decision.

 

Pant,Shardul,Ashwin,Jadeja have made the batting look ok but its worse if we look the perfomane of top  consistently. 

 

[tweaker]

15 hours ago, R!TTER said:

You're disrespecting Karna by comparing him with these assholes, he was almost forced by the Gods (Krishna & Indra) to give up his kavach/weapon & by extension his life!

They should be compared with Shikandi ,standing before young players.

Edited July 3, 2023 by tweaker

[Bublu Bhuyan]

16 hours ago, R!TTER said:

You're disrespecting Karna by comparing him with these assholes, he was almost forced by the Gods (Krishna & Indra) to give up his kavach/weapon & by extension his life!

The only reason Karna died in place of Arjun is because of Krishna's politics. It's an insult to compare him to our mental midgets.

[Bublu Bhuyan]

30 minutes ago, tweaker said:

They should be compared with Shikandi ,standing before young players.

What an example

[Nikhil_cric]

Mental strength comes later. Physically, they are not as athletic as some other teams. They wouldn't physically be able to execute that consistent short ball barrage for as long and with the accuracy we saw in this Test match.

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Mental strength comes later. Physically, they are not as athletic as some other teams. They wouldn't physically be able to execute that consistent short ball barrage for as long and with the accuracy we saw in this Test match.

 

To execute the " short ball barrage " strategy, one needs multiple tall, hit the deck quicks. While India is hell bent on choosing either short skiddy pacers or floaty pacers.

 

I have seen Harshit Rana and Sandeep Warrier bowl short ball barrages throughout the day in FC cricket. Seen Prasidh and Kuldeep Sen do it too.

 

But we don't pick such pacers. 

 

Cricket has been dominated by bounce. That is the key factor in cricket. But India is the only cointty that does not understand this basic fact. 

 

I  rate someone like Unadkat much higher than many ahort seamers because he is tall and gets bounce.

Edited July 3, 2023 by express bowling

[Nikhil_cric]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

To execute the " short ball barrage " strategy, one needs multiple tall, hit the deck quicks. While India is he'll bent on choosing either short skiddy pacers or floaty pacers.

 

I have seen Harshit Rana and Sandeep Warrier bowl short ball barrages throughout the day in FC cricket. Seen Prasidh and Kuldeep Sen do it too.

 

But we don't pick such pacers. 

 

Cricket has been dominated by bounce. That is the key factor in cricket. But India is the only cointty that does not understand this basic fact. 

 

I  rate someone like Unadkat much higher than many ahort seamers because he is tall and gets bounce.

Height is not a prerequisite. Wagner is not that tall but he is a machine who can run in all day and bowl that short ball. Steyn used to occassionally go short and bully batsmen as well. 

 

Height would be advantageous for good length bowling. But for short stuff, Skiddy short bowlers who execute short ball tactics can be lethal. Their bouncers are very difficult to avoid/ to control while pulling and it skids on while losing every little pace off the deck.

 

Siraj in particular could do that to devastating effect. Just does not have the accuracy or stamina to do it for long periods

 

 

[express bowling]

35 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Height is not a prerequisite. Wagner is not that tall but he is a machine who can run in all day and bowl that short ball. Steyn used to occassionally go short and bully batsmen as well. 

 

Height would be advantageous for good length bowling. But for short stuff, Skiddy short bowlers who execute short ball tactics can be lethal. Their bouncers are very difficult to avoid/ to control while pulling and it skids on while losing every little pace off the deck.

 

Siraj in particular could do that to devastating effect. Just does not have the accuracy or stamina to do it for long periods

 

 

 

Wagner is an exception. And I don't find his bouncers to be that lethal. Steyn bowled some short balls but not a high percentage.

 

Short pacers need to put in much more effort than tall pacer, to get the ball to bounce as high.  It is always better to take the easier route to bounce ... tall hit the deck quicks.

 

P.S ....  Medium height Indiam quicks like Bumrah and Siraj get nasty and lethal bounce too. But their natural tendency will always be to go fuller compared to taller hit the deck quicks like Harshit, Prasidh, Sen etc.

Edited July 3, 2023 by express bowling

[Nikhil_cric]

29 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Wagner is an exception. And I don't find his bouncers to be that lethal. Steyn bowled some short balls but not a high percentage.

 

Short pacers need to put in much more effort than tall pacer, to get the ball to bounce as high.  It is always better to take the easier route to bounce ... tall hit the deck quicks.

 

P.S ....  Medium height Indiam quicks like Bumrah and Siraj get nasty and lethal bounce too. But their natural tendency will always be to go fuller compared to taller hit the deck quicks like Harshit, Prasidh, Sen etc.

That is not true. Steyn bowled a high percentage of short balls .  In his entire career, only a couple of OZ quicks and Wagner have bowled a higher percentage. 

 

Wagner may not be visually lethal because of his lack of airspeed but his impact is unbelievable especially considering that he bowled primarily with boult and southee who were bad on flat decks .

 

[wazza]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Mental strength comes later. Physically, they are not as athletic as some other teams. They wouldn't physically be able to execute that consistent short ball barrage for as long and with the accuracy we saw in this Test match.

They can and they have in the past. Again. The bowling is very good. Our tactics, coach and captain are mediocre. 

 

We are lacking one tall bowler like ishant for balance. Before our attack was deadly with bumrah shami and ishant. Now we need new young guns. Harshit tyagi prasidh and Sen will come in. 

 

We can have a deadly attack. We just don't picn the players. Fast bowlers have a short life span. 

 

Aussie bowlers barely play ipl with intensity. They pick and choose odi and t20 games. Our idiots play all useless games. 

 

No wonder they get fatigued or injured in crucial games. 

 

Also you are forgetting one aspect. Take Smith out of aus and they would lose 9 times out of 10 vs us. He boosts their bowling attack's morale. We have pant but their batting unit have 4 quality batsmen. We only have or had one. Batsmen fatiguing opponent bowlers is key to victory. Longer they are forced to bowl, the lower the opponent bowlers' ability to impact the game in a meaningful way.  

Edited July 3, 2023 by wazza

[Trichromatic]

This Indian team has beaten Australian team in 4 consecutive bilateral series.

[wazza]

43 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Wagner is an exception. And I don't find his bouncers to be that lethal. Steyn bowled some short balls but not a high percentage.

 

Short pacers need to put in much more effort than tall pacer, to get the ball to bounce as high.  It is always better to take the easier route to bounce ... tall hit the deck quicks.

 

P.S ....  Medium height Indiam quicks like Bumrah and Siraj get nasty and lethal bounce too. But their natural tendency will always be to go fuller compared to taller hit the deck quicks like Harshit, Prasidh, Sen etc.

We need a balanced attack. That's it. 

 

Bumrah - complete bowler. Fast bouncy and accurate 

Siraj - complete bowler - medium fast and can swing. Has nasty bouncer

Harshit - tall hit the deck bounce based bowler or Sen or tyagi

 

Last one for now will be undacutra who can swing and hit the deck hard but medium pacer. He can be replaced by hangerakr or bava depending on the pitch. 

[wazza]

3 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

This Indian team has beaten Australian team in 4 consecutive bilateral series.

Yes but now the players are old. We need to replace soon.

[SRT100]

19 hours ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

Seeing the Ashes, it further emphasis how mentally weak Indian players are.

 

It is like warrior Karna, you can have all the skill in the world but if you can't use it when needed the most it is pointless.

 

As mentioned previously, talent without temperament is nothing.

 

India need Pant like players asap, unfortunately not many of them in Indian Cricket.

 

When Dhoni was at his peak, India had a very mentally strong team under him.

 

Dhoni's captaincy during those prime years of his, he had every other team covered.

 

Unfortunately with him, he got older and so did his ability, like every player eventually.

[Gollum]

Most Indian sportspersons are mentally weak, not just a cricket problem. Very few exceptions like Neeraj, Sindhu, Sreejesh, Gambo etc. We are massively underachieving in sports just because we can't hold our **** together in crunch moments, big occasions.....

Edited July 3, 2023 by Gollum

[ThirtyD.]

Nominating Rahane as a vice captain on the basis of IPL and a scratchy innings in WTC final tells us all how short sighted these dimwits are. There is absolutely no planning whatsoever and they refuse to see into the future. There is no way India contests a test match or for that matter, any format similar to Aussies and England. BCCI can make claims of how many $$ they rake in but morally and competency wise they’re bankrupt. They’re failing to realize that they make money because they happen to be a board of a country with largest population; there is absolutely nothing they do that attracts the sponsors.

[Trichromatic]

1 hour ago, wazza said:

Yes but now the players are old. We need to replace soon.

Are players old or are players mentally weak?