2024-2027 LOI team under Hardik Pandya

[Lord]

Just now, maniac said:

Will be among these 4:Rahul, Iyer, Pant, Gill

 

Iyer and Rahul will also be candidates for Odi captaincy.

 

T20 belongs to Pandya atleast till next to WT20s

on topic: it looks more like a t20 team kind of Pakistan picks 

Sai Sudarshan and Rinku should be in the mix in ODIs though as they have stellar averages in List A. Not sold ok Gaikwad.

 

Jasiwal is for the long haul.

Iyer looks to be best option in terms of attitude. But his own performance specially in SENA is uncertain.

[zen]

3 minutes ago, maniac said:

on topic: it looks more like a t20 team kind of Pakistan picks 

Sai Sudarshan and Rinku should be in the mix in ODIs though as they have stellar averages in List A. Not sold ok Gaikwad.

 

The next ODI world cup is in 2027 so cricket will be more T20 focused now. 3-4 years also allows new players to get their games right for ODIs. 

 

Also since the next WC is in SA, the ability to play pace and bounce becomes important. 

 

Yeah, Sai Sudarshan can be a good pick for ODIs. 

[maniac]

Just now, Lord said:

Iyer looks to be best option in terms of attitude. But his own performance specially in SENA is uncertain.

Ganguly, Inzi, Jayawardena, Dhoni  lot of good captains who were amazing in sc but average overseas. As long as he does enough, he can mask those numbers till form totally abandons him. Captains Mumbai and also has IPL captaincy experience. His captaincy doesn’t excite me tbh but there aren’t too many options. Pandya is good for T20 though.

[Serpico]

11 minutes ago, maniac said:

Ganguly, Inzi, Jayawardena, Dhoni  lot of good captains who were amazing in sc but average overseas. As long as he does enough, he can mask those numbers till form totally abandons him. Captains Mumbai and also has IPL captaincy experience. His captaincy doesn’t excite me tbh but there aren’t too many options. Pandya is good for T20 though.

Iyer is not that guy, sadly. His ipl captaincy was mediocre and forgettable. His ability to command respect from teammates is questionable with that weakness against pace and bounce. Gill is better choice

[The Realist]

F no to Pandya 

 

Representative of the current loser generation. Goes missing on every big occasion and gets injured breaking wind.

 

Need to build under a younger, dynamic player who does not come with baggage of failure.

[zen]

Just now, The Realist said:

 

Representative of the current loser generation. Goes missing on every big occasion and gets injured breaking wind.

 

Need to build under a younger, dynamic player who does not come with baggage of failure.

 

In sports, there is nothing like a loser generation. It is how you learn from failures and come back that counts. For e.g. Messi (and ARG) won a WC after decades. 

 

In sports (or business), failure can be a step to success. Pandya is one of the shining performers in the crunch games (CT final, T20 WC SF, etc.), and he has seen failures and learned from that experience. His captaincy, including the backing of players, is widely appreciated. He can be an instinctive captain who can change plans per the situation rather than wait for things to go from bad to worse. 

[Gollum]

No more SKY, I beg you people, India has some cricket legacy, don't cheapen the national cap. 

[zen]

3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

No more SKY, I beg you people, India has some cricket legacy, don't cheapen the national cap. 

 

I can understand the apprehension against SKY but he is a vital component in T20s, which is where the focus will be over the next few years. By the time the next ODI WC  comes (2027 SA), he could be in the form of his life (has no major issues against pace, bounce, or spin). He plays free-flowing cricket for the team (not milestones). If he is struggling in ODIs, the team can go with someone like a Sudarshan if he continues to develop his game. 

 

This World Cup is like a sunk cost. It should not dictate how we plan for the future unless the players are expected to be past their prime!

Edited November 19, 2023 by zen

[Gollum]

Just now, zen said:

 

I can understand the apprehension for SKY but SKY is a vital component in T20s, which is where the focus will be in the next few years. By the time the next ODI WC  comes (2027 SA), he could be in the form of his life (has no major issues against pace, bounce, or spin), and plays free-flowing cricket for the team (not milestones). 

 

This world cup is like a sunk cost. It should not dictate how we plan for the future unless the players are expected to be past their prime!

Bhai, next T20 WC is in WI. Sluggish pitches, this fool will try his ramps and pick up shots there as well, that too against cutters and slower ones. This one is a gone case. 

[zen]

3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Bhai, next T20 WC is in WI. Sluggish pitches, this fool will try his ramps and pick up shots there as well, that too against cutters and slower ones. This one is a gone case. 

 

How about trying someone like Sudarshan at #3 if he shows good improvement in his game? I know he can be a slow starter in T20s. Other options include Abhishek, Sundar, Tilak, etc. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by zen

[Sooda]

The time for SKY has passed unfortunately 

 

Shami, Virat, Rohit and Jadeja... farewell from LOIs

 

Iyers short ball weakness is getting better, he shows great middle overs intent, and ODIs are KLs best format he too has been good. In terms of skill and technique he is miles ahead SKY and other newbies.

 

We should retain perspective: world cup finalists unbeaten till the final. As disappointing as this is , and as poor as we were on the day, no reason to make change for changes sake

 

Gill, KL, Iyer and Hardik can remain the core of the ODI batting. 

 

For the ODIs in South Africa:

 

Gill

Kishan (big call but he can take over Rohits role as PP intent machine, and be wk)

Jaiswal

KL

Iyer

Hardik

Sundar

Axar

Prasidh

Sen

Kaverappa

 

Tilak, Gaekwad, Jitesh?/Prabsimran?, Mayank Yadav, Kuldeep

 

 

For the meaningless waste of time t20 series vs Aus *next week*

 

Gaekwad

Kishan 

Jaiswal 

Patidar 

Tilak

Rinku

Axar

Atit Sheth (?)

Sen

Prasidh

Bishnoi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Sooda

[Gollum]

Just now, zen said:

 

How about trying someone like Sudarshan at #3 if he shows good improvement in his game? I know he can be a slow starter in T20s. 

Anyone bro. Anyone expect SKY, want someone with basic intelligence.

[Ultimate_Game]

I would go with the following team. Enough of serial losers such as KL Rahul and the oldies. 3 pacers in Bumrah, Harshit (or Kuldip) and Panday, 3 spinners in Bishnoi, Parag, and Jaiswal. If need more spin option, maybe swap Riyan with a specialist spinner but I would prefer with a deep lineup where couple of folks can roll their arm over. It's not as if our specialist spinners have been winning us matches anyway.

 

T20 team:

Jaiswal

Gill (or Ruturaj)

Tilak Varma

SKY

Rinku Singh

Pandya (C)

Riyan Parag

Jitesh Sharma (WK)

Bishnoi

Bumrah

Harshit Rana (or Kuldip Sen)

 

In the squad:

Sai Sudarshan

Pick 2 form Pacers from the latest IPL

Pick a form spinner from the latest IPL to support Bishnoi

[Sooda]

24 minutes ago, zen said:

 

I can understand the apprehension against SKY but he is a vital component in T20s, which is where the focus will be over the next few years. By the time the next ODI WC  comes (2027 SA), he could be in the form of his life (has no major issues against pace, bounce, or spin). He plays free-flowing cricket for the team (not milestones). If he is struggling in ODIs, the team can go with someone like a Sudarshan if he continues to develop his game. 

 

This World Cup is like a sunk cost. It should not dictate how we plan for the future unless the players are expected to be past their prime!

 

Team management trusted Jadeja more than SKY to build innings which is crucial for a no 3. If SKY plays it has to be as finisher but I don't think he should play ODIs anymore 

[coffee_rules]

 @OP  Will he be fit in 2023 for an entire match?

Edited November 19, 2023 by coffee_rules

[Trichromatic]

Fans harping about their favorite no matter what happens.

 

Some things never change in Indian cricket.

[vayuu1]

2 hours ago, zen said:

 

In sports, there is nothing like a loser generation. It is how you learn from failures and come back that counts. For e.g. Messi (and ARG) won a WC after decades. 

 

In sports (or business), failure can be a step to success. Pandya is one of the shining performers in the crunch games (CT final, T20 WC SF, etc.), and he has seen failures and learned from that experience. His captaincy, including the backing of players, is widely appreciated. He can be an instinctive captain who can change plans per the situation rather than wait for things to go from bad to worse. 

Disagree the generation of Kohli sharma jaddu is loser generation add to that we have kl a mental midget and bumrah choker and its every bit of choking and losing generation format koi bhi ho bas haar haar aur haar.

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, vayuu1 said:

Disagree the generation of Kohli sharma jaddu is loser generation add to that we have kl a mental midget and bumrah choker and its every bit of choking and losing generation format koi bhi ho bas haar haar aur haar.

 

Yup. The previous gen with likes of Dhoni, Gambhir, Raina and Yuvraj (before they went down the hill by 2014) were as clutch as they come. Won 3 tourneys from 2007 - 2013, and that too with likes of Nehra, Munaf, Sreesanth, RP Singh, and Zaheer as bowlers. And here we can't win anything even with the "best bowling lineup in our history". Wish we had the 2007-2013 team with today's bowling lineup, we would've f**kn won everything!

[Frustrated]

How can Pandya lead a team in any format if he himself remains injured 6-9 months in a year?   

Edited November 20, 2023 by Frustrated

[Frustrated]

Pandya is the only t20 captain in our history to lose a bilateral series to a team which failed to qualify for T20 WC.  On top of that he remains injured despite being cotton wrapped by the TM for most part of the year.  Easily the worst possible choice for a captain.