Does India has weakest batting line up in world?

[Trichromatic]

There was a time when I used to see WI and SL team full of batsmen averaging 30s, I used to think how do they manage to come up with line up like this.

 

Now it seems same thing has happened to Indian team. It started with Rahane averaging low 40s to high 30s and then KL mid 30s and now Gill early 30s and 20s.

[Kohlifan]

Its high time for GILL to start performing, for KL I guess his time in Tests are done & he should have been dropped for good from Test team. Rest others are relatively new in the Test side, so we can give them fair chances to excel. d

Edited February 15 by Kohlifan

[Naveed12]

Past Performance:

• ODI and Test cricket: India has a strong track record in these formats, often boasting powerful and well-balanced batting line-ups. They were runners-up in the 2023 World Cup and consistently rank among the top teams in Test cricket.
• T20 cricket: While India has produced world-class T20 batsmen, their team performance in recent years hasn't always been dominant. Some argue their batting line-up might not be the strongest compared to other top T20 teams.

Overall:

• It's important to consider the context when making such comparisons. While concerns exist about specific areas of the Indian batting line-up, labelling them as the "weakest" in the world is a strong statement that requires deeper analysis and consideration of various factors.

[Texan]

Yes

[Vickydev]

16 minutes ago, Naveed12 said:

Past Performance:

• ODI and Test cricket: India has a strong track record in these formats, often boasting powerful and well-balanced batting line-ups. They were runners-up in the 2023 World Cup and consistently rank among the top teams in Test cricket.
• T20 cricket: While India has produced world-class T20 batsmen, their team performance in recent years hasn't always been dominant. Some argue their batting line-up might not be the strongest compared to other top T20 teams.

Overall:

• It's important to consider the context when making such comparisons. While concerns exist about specific areas of the Indian batting line-up, labelling them as the "weakest" in the world is a strong statement that requires deeper analysis and consideration of various factors.

Nice work bot

[SRT100]

Australia is going to tear us apart next summer.

[Norman]

48 minutes ago, Naveed12 said:

Past Performance:

• ODI and Test cricket: India has a strong track record in these formats, often boasting powerful and well-balanced batting line-ups. They were runners-up in the 2023 World Cup and consistently rank among the top teams in Test cricket.
• T20 cricket: While India has produced world-class T20 batsmen, their team performance in recent years hasn't always been dominant. Some argue their batting line-up might not be the strongest compared to other top T20 teams.

Overall:

• It's important to consider the context when making such comparisons. While concerns exist about specific areas of the Indian batting line-up, labelling them as the "weakest" in the world is a strong statement that requires deeper analysis and consideration of various factors.

 

 

 

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[New guy]

2 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

There was a time when I used to see WI and SL team full of batsmen averaging 30s, I used to think how do they manage to come up with line up like this.

 

Now it seems same thing has happened to Indian team. It started with Rahane averaging low 40s to high 30s and then KL mid 30s and now Gill early 30s and 20s.

 

It also doesn't help that stalwarts like Kohli has been averaging 35 or lower on last 4 years. 

[express bowling]

Apart from Jaiswal, most of our other younger batsmen give me the feel that they are not serious about test cricket. Some of them are not interested in international cricket as a whole. 

 

Till the time this changes, we will have batters averaging in the 30s.

[Lone Wolf]

36 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

Australia is going to tear us apart next summer.

Aussies themselves have a ageing batting line up which was exposed by WI and almost by Poyzz too.  They are into transition as well.  Except Head & Marnus everyone >30

Expect India to put up a better fight.  

 

Poms will win the Ashes down under in 2025 under BaZ & Stokes. 

Edited February 15 by Lone Wolf

[Sandz]

19 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Apart from Jaiswal, most of our other younger batsmen give me the feel that they are not serious about test cricket. Some of them are not interested in international cricket as a whole. 

 

Till the time this changes, we will have batters averaging in the 30s.

I have hope in Sarfraz 

[Soldier]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Aussies themselves have a ageing batting line up which was exposed by WI and almost by Poyzz too.  They are into transition as well.  Except Head & Marnus everyone >30

Expect India to put up a better fight.  

 

Poms will win the Ashes down under in 2025 under BaZ & Stokes. 

Poms will never beat Aussies in australia

[Vijy]

6 hours ago, express bowling said:

Apart from Jaiswal, most of our other younger batsmen give me the feel that they are not serious about test cricket. Some of them are not interested in international cricket as a whole. 

 

Till the time this changes, we will have batters averaging in the 30s.

I disagree. Gill will average in the 20s to prove you wrong.

 

on a more serious note, I think the ones who have that hunger for test cricket are few. Here, I am not talking about ability (e.g., technique), but their temperament: the ones who come to mind are Jaiswal, Sarfaraz (fitness is, however, an issue), Bawne (too old sadly), maybe sudharsan/ranjan paul

[tapandrun]

In Red ball -

This was suppose to happen when u had a pure batter paying as V.captain and averaging below 40s.

Since Sehwag and Gambhir left Ind is still looking for an opening pair, lower middle order and lower order batters have done all the rescue jobs in last 4/5 years.

In test you need a solid reliable and kind of permanent batting order.

 

White ball :

Game has moved on too fast Ind batting is not able to catch-up especially in T20s. Ind never had T20 batting order/batters.

Batting these days have been about power and innovation and Ind batting lacks both in white ball, newer batter were suppose to bring that but neither they are technically strong nor they have higher SR. Still Rohit and Kolhi are Ind's best batters in T20Is and ODis. No new player has the power game nor they have reverse/lab/ramp shots.

 

Eng has both power and Innovation, Aus is going all power, we saw SA in this WC they are going all power. Ind still does not have a power hitter. Ind has been getting to just par or below par scores that Ind bowling  has been unable to defend 

 

 

[Vijy]

47 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

In Red ball -

This was suppose to happen when u had a pure batter paying as V.captain and averaging below 40s.

Since Sehwag and Gambhir left Ind is still looking for an opening pair, lower middle order and lower order batters have done all the rescue jobs in last 4/5 years.

In test you need a solid reliable and kind of permanent batting order.

 

White ball :

Game has moved on too fast Ind batting is not able to catch-up especially in T20s. Ind never had T20 batting order/batters.

Batting these days have been about power and innovation and Ind batting lacks both in white ball, newer batter were suppose to bring that but neither they are technically strong nor they have higher SR. Still Rohit and Kolhi are Ind's best batters in T20Is and ODis. No new player has the power game nor they have reverse/lab/ramp shots.

 

Eng has both power and Innovation, Aus is going all power, we saw SA in this WC they are going all power. Ind still does not have a power hitter. Ind has been getting to just par or below par scores that Ind bowling  has been unable to defend 

 

 

we have the super-reliable kela, gill, patidar, bharath

[sensible-indian]

22 hours ago, express bowling said:

Apart from Jaiswal, most of our other younger batsmen give me the feel that they are not serious about test cricket. Some of them are not interested in international cricket as a whole. 

 

Till the time this changes, we will have batters averaging in the 30s.

All the more reason we should mostly pick test players who dont have a career in IPL.

 

Look at how happy Sarfraz was to get a test cap.

[Frustrated]

With the introduction of Sarfaraz and Jurel, this batting line up looks much stronger now.   500 was possible but Jaddu spoiled it with Sarfaraz's run out.  Just replace Gill with Padikkal.  This line up will be the best (at home)

[Vijy]

17 hours ago, Frustrated said:

With the introduction of Sarfaraz and Jurel, this batting line up looks much stronger now.   500 was possible but Jaddu spoiled it with Sarfaraz's run out.  Just replace Gill with Padikkal.  This line up will be the best (at home)

500 is not enough on this pitch. moreover, it's not just Gill that is the weak link but also that useless patidar, who should be renamed as patta-dar

[Frustrated]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

500 is not enough on this pitch. moreover, it's not just Gill that is the weak link but also that useless patidar, who should be renamed as patta-dar

Agree.   But with 500-550 runs on the board, there is higher probability of atleast saving the test.  Not happening now.  This test is gone.  So is the series.  

[jf1gp_1]

I don't understand these thread. At one point everyone wants all veterans to retire. When you play a new look team then every one wants to critize every single person. Virat Kohli was dismissed after his first series in England we all know what happened after. Give gill , Jaiswal etc etc time to settle down. Ofcourse they will work on themselves and come back strong.

 

Every one behaving like typical India parents, upset with there 8 year old cause he couldn't solve IIT entrance question.