Virat Kohli all set to be dropped from T20WC squad:Reports

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

Somehow, we have short memories of the Shastri/Kohli era. 

 

Shastri and Kohli played the likes of Dhoni and DK in the 2019 World Cup.

 

That was one of the worst squads assembled. 

 

yep it stalled the progress of Pant.  They never backed youngsters themselves.

[putrevus]

Just now, Lord said:

 

yep it stalled the progress of Pant.  They never backed youngsters themselves.

Yes they did play Saha over Pant. But Pant after 66 t20s has not done anything great.

 

Pant is useless in middle order in t20s.Only place Pant might succeed is as an opener.

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Yes they did play Saha over Pant. But Pant after 66 t20s has not done anything great.

 

Pant is useless in middle order in t20s.Only place Pant might succeed is as an opener.

 

Pant still did good in ODIs and Tests. They still played Saha till Aus. We literally went into 2019 WC without a no. 4.

 

Yes Pant should open in T20. Upto TM to take that call but Rohit wants that spot for himself.

[kosingh]

My guess is that at some point in this IPL, RCB are going to drop Virat Slohli. With Agarkar, he has no chance in the T20 World cup. 

[vvvslaxman]

37 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Why didn't he do it in his tenure then? Easy to talk. Thala dragged on for years under him.

He was called out as well. Pant was still getting the hang of T20. It allowed him to carry on along with DK. Now we have way too many options than ever. Yet  pursuing with 30 plus is ridiculous 

[putrevus]

36 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Pant still did good in ODIs and Tests. They still played Saha till Aus. We literally went into 2019 WC without a no. 4.

 

Yes Pant should open in T20. Upto TM to take that call but Rohit wants that spot for himself.

No he is great only in tests. Odis and t20s he is WIP. We went with number 4 in 2023 world cup what the heck did he do in finals.

 

Pant, Pandya along with Dhoni and jadeja could have won that match easily .

 

Pant has not done anything to merit a place over anybody in t20s.

 

 

 

[Adamant]

On 3/23/2024 at 10:35 AM, New guy said:

The boat has constantly failed to reach the destination, so it's already full of holes.

 

People say don't rock the boat when things are fine, not when you have failed to win a single thing in t20 for 17 years. 

 

P.S. Rohit's innings don't hurt the team as much as Kohli, Kohli regularly plays 50 to 70 balls in an innings in a 120 ball innings barely leaving anything for others. Rohit either hits out or gets out, he doesn't waste balls. 

Sachin tendulkar failed to win a single thing in Odis in 22 years when he finally won the world cup.

 

Using your  analogy he should have been thrown out coz boat was already full of holes.

[putrevus]

On 3/23/2024 at 1:05 AM, New guy said:

The boat has constantly failed to reach the destination, so it's already full of holes.

 

People say don't rock the boat when things are fine, not when you have failed to win a single thing in t20 for 17 years. 

 

P.S. Rohit's innings don't hurt the team as much as Kohli, Kohli regularly plays 50 to 70 balls in an innings in a 120 ball innings barely leaving anything for others. Rohit either hits out or gets out, he doesn't waste balls. 

He needs to play like that as he is stuck with bozos like Rohit and Rahul as openers who have done nothing in t20s .He not only has to safe guard wickets as India had no batting after number 3 since 2013 but also take of RR.

 

You are talking as if Rohit has been scoring 20 ball 40s. We all saw Rohit's great batting with SR under 100 on a flat pitch in last t20 semi finals. Not just that we saw his great stinkers in 2014. 2016, 2021 too.

[vvvslaxman]

Comparison of two mediocre players served no purpose. Let us lose with youngsters  rather than sticking with tried and tested loser group each of which has one weakness or other and a lot of baggage.

[putrevus]

This IPL is very important for Kohli. he is still better than most batsmen in the country for number 3 spot and can handle pressure unlike useless idiots like SKY.

 

Jaiswal is one guy who should play as an opener.He has shown power. Rohit and Rahul should have been dropped long time back.

[cricketfan28]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

This IPL is very important for Kohli. he is still better than most batsmen in the country for number 3 spot and can handle pressure unlike useless idiots like SKY.

 

Jaiswal is one guy who should play as an opener.He has shown power. Rohit and Rahul should have been dropped long time back.

Agree with sky statement, overrated

[New guy]

13 hours ago, putrevus said:

He needs to play like that as he is stuck with bozos like Rohit and Rahul as openers who have done nothing in t20s .He not only has to safe guard wickets as India had no batting after number 3 since 2013 but also take of RR.

 

You are talking as if Rohit has been scoring 20 ball 40s. We all saw Rohit's great batting with SR under 100 on a flat pitch in last t20 semi finals. Not just that we saw his great stinkers in 2014. 2016, 2021 too.

You don't need players in top 3-4 to safeguard anything. In t20 the anchors should be late middle order batsmen who can both hit or recover innings if there is a collapse. You cannot play fearfully anticipating collapse from ball 1. 

 

India has no batting after no 3 BECAUSE we have stat padders on top, it's a design not a bug. Any team with stat padders on top will ALWAYS have no batting later as middle order never gets enough balls and never gets enough match practice. The exact same excuse was made for Pakistan with rizwan and babar on top, they had no batting too after top.

 

Ideally rohit and Kohli BOTH should go but Rohit is the captain 

 

I will repeat, having a batsman like Kohli in top 3 will 100% harm any team and no such team will EVER win a t20 cup. No team with stat padders in top 3-4 will ever win a t20 cup

 

[mani sha]

2 hours ago, New guy said:

You don't need players in top 3-4 to safeguard anything. In t20 the anchors should be late middle order batsmen who can both hit or recover innings if there is a collapse. You cannot play fearfully anticipating collapse from ball 1. 

 

India has no batting after no 3 BECAUSE we have stat padders on top, it's a design not a bug. Any team with stat padders on top will ALWAYS have no batting later as middle order never gets enough balls and never gets enough match practice. The exact same excuse was made for Pakistan with rizwan and babar on top, they had no batting too after top.

 

Ideally rohit and Kohli BOTH should go but Rohit is the captain 

 

I will repeat, having a batsman like Kohli in top 3 will 100% harm any team and no such team will EVER win a t20 cup. No team with stat padders in top 3-4 will ever win a t20 cup

 

Totally agreed . 
 

kohli making a 80 off 55 balls as opener does not help much . T20 won based on 6 hitters . 
even in todays match , he hit only two sixes . 
 

our top 8 hitters / impact players / high strike rates in t20 - 

 

sky 

rinku 

rohit ( new avatar , hitman from ball 1 ) 

yashashvi jaiswal 

late order pandya ( yes , he can tonk sixes and his bowling is useful ) 

k l rahul ( back up keeper too ) 

gill in good form - hits more sixes than kohli and is better anchor if u need one 

kishan ( hits out and keeps ) 

 

kohli does not find a place if u take above 8 plus jadeja as allrounder and sundar , chinaman , fast googly bisnoi , bum , Shami , siraj( total 15 ) 

 

if u take kohli in place of Gil , u are obligated to play him which would just upset team balance . Also kohli plays spin poorly . 

 

possible thakur as backup all rounder , yash dayal / mohsin as backup seamers , Dhruv as keeper backup and tewatia / dube as backup batter 

 

 

 

[Gollum]

3 hours ago, New guy said:

I will repeat, having a batsman like Kohli in top 3 will 100% harm any team and no such team will EVER win a t20 cup. No team with stat padders in top 3-4 will ever win a t20 cup

Not Kohli's fault we lost 2014 and '16 WCs.

 

Marlon Samuels was a number 3, low SR player who hovered in the 110-120 SR range. Played a big part in 2 WC victories for WI, his knock in 2012 final was the GOAT T20 knock IMO, and he played an ATG knock in 2016 final as well. 

 

Not all WC KOs have been high scoring, you can check the scorecards. Team can afford one Kohli, especially when his competition is that hackish C grade bilateral bully SKY. 

[Suhaan]

Shastri's on-air counter

Issuing a noteworthy reaction, co-commentator Shastri namedropped MS Dhoni and reminded Pietersen that India lifted the famous trophy with a young side back in 2007. “It’s not about growing the game, it’s about winning the competition. The game will grow wherever it needs to grow. What I’m trying to say is no baggage. And India won in 2007 T20 World Cup with a young side. You want youth. You want flamboyance. You want that dash,” Shastri observed.

 

This guy Bevda is one blantant hypocrite,when he himself singing Yash Chopra romantic songs for his beloved kaptaan then

[diga]

41 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Shastri's on-air counter

Issuing a noteworthy reaction, co-commentator Shastri namedropped MS Dhoni and reminded Pietersen that India lifted the famous trophy with a young side back in 2007. “It’s not about growing the game, it’s about winning the competition. The game will grow wherever it needs to grow. What I’m trying to say is no baggage. And India won in 2007 T20 World Cup with a young side. You want youth. You want flamboyance. You want that dash,” Shastri observed.

 

This guy Bevda is one blantant hypocrite,when he himself singing Yash Chopra romantic songs for his beloved kaptaan then

Yep.. heard that exchange between KP & Bevda..  KP said India needs Kohli in the big match against Pak in Newyork to grow the game in US and the above was Bevda's riposte

[mani sha]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Not Kohli's fault we lost 2014 and '16 WCs.

 

Marlon Samuels was a number 3, low SR player who hovered in the 110-120 SR range. Played a big part in 2 WC victories for WI, his knock in 2012 final was the GOAT T20 knock IMO, and he played an ATG knock in 2016 final as well. 

 

Not all WC KOs have been high scoring, you can check the scorecards. Team can afford one Kohli, especially when his competition is that hackish C grade bilateral bully SKY. 

In t20 margins are small . 10-15 runs 

 

 

the common theme across t20 world cups has been power hitters , allrounders and young teams in general . 

if the wc was in Australia or south Africa , kohli might have been a factor due to his ability to play high pace better than most . 
 

in West Indies , usa etc he will make adil rashid look like Shane warne and will be a walking wicket for spinners . 
 

[putrevus]

7 hours ago, New guy said:

You don't need players in top 3-4 to safeguard anything. In t20 the anchors should be late middle order batsmen who can both hit or recover innings if there is a collapse. You cannot play fearfully anticipating collapse from ball 1. 

 

India has no batting after no 3 BECAUSE we have stat padders on top, it's a design not a bug. Any team with stat padders on top will ALWAYS have no batting later as middle order never gets enough balls and never gets enough match practice. The exact same excuse was made for Pakistan with rizwan and babar on top, they had no batting too after top.

 

Ideally rohit and Kohli BOTH should go but Rohit is the captain 

 

I will repeat, having a batsman like Kohli in top 3 will 100% harm any team and no such team will EVER win a t20 cup. No team with stat padders in top 3-4 will ever win a t20 cup

 

No , you have idiots like Rohit and Rahul as openers who just consume deliveries or get out early.

 

Did Kohli stop these two bozos from scoring like Hales and Butler in 2022 semifinal.

 

Moronic Rohit has done reverse, he bats like t20s in odis in name of giving fast starts but stinks the joint in t20s.

 

Kohli I repeat is perfect number 3 ,I don't see anyone better than him .If I see better I will be first person to say kick him out.

 

India has no batting after number 3 because he is saddled with idiots like SKY and other bozos who cannot bat under pressure.

 

Kohli was and is never a problem for India in whiteball cricket. He is still the best whiteball batsman in the country , let others do something for a change before thinking about dropping Kohli.

 

There is nothing written in stone that this seriel loser Rohit has to be the captain.

Edited March 26 by putrevus

[Vijy]

this is the team we need to play to satisfy the cravings for seniors:

 

1. kela

2. fatman

3. kohli

4. rahane

5. pandu [current tuk-tuk version]

6. DK (wk)

7. jaddu

8. ashwin

9. thakur

10. harshal

11. undercutter/mohit

 

Most people in this thread will be happy at least one of their favs is in the above team.

Edited March 27 by Vijy

[mani sha]

On 3/26/2024 at 5:30 AM, putrevus said:

No , you have idiots like Rohit and Rahul as openers who just consume deliveries or get out early.

 

Did Kohli stop these two bozos from scoring like Hales and Butler in 2022 semifinal.

 

Moronic Rohit has done reverse, he bats like t20s in odis in name of giving fast starts but stinks the joint in t20s.

 

Kohli I repeat is perfect number 3 ,I don't see anyone better than him .If I see better I will be first person to say kick him out.

 

India has no batting after number 3 because he is saddled with idiots like SKY and other bozos who cannot bat under pressure.

 

Kohli was and is never a problem for India in whiteball cricket. He is still the best whiteball batsman in the country , let others do something for a change before thinking about dropping Kohli.

 

There is nothing written in stone that this seriel loser Rohit has to be the captain.

Rohit has not been wasting any deliveries . Nor does jaiswal . 
kohli at no 3 mean we will be 15-20 runs short always.  

 

Why ? 
cos he can’t hit sixes like a rinku or sky or dube . He also is hard to get out . This makes his 50 ball 60 useless . Ideally in t20 if u bat first 10 deliveries , sr should be 80-100 percent . If u play next 10 , ur sr should be 150 to 200 percent Theron . 
U don’t need anchors in t20 . Kohli plays t20 like an odi . 
 

today kkr won against rcb .. why . Sunil naraine outbats no 3 kohli . lol . 

 

I repeat , kohli is most dangerous batsman for India as he will not get out , plays at 120-130 sr and can’t accelerate or innovate like sky . 
He is better bat when he chases as he knows he can’t bat slow and has to hit out . But in t20 him in top 3 is guaranteed to get u short by 15-20 runs in each innings .