mishra Posted June 10, 2024 Posted June 10, 2024 Sabaka Saath Sabaka Vikas is key to loss. As a Hindu, I am convinced that Muslim Community will always vote for Islam and religious Jihad. They are unfit for democracy. Any reason given by media other than above is lie to hide fanatic communalism of Muslim Society.
G_B_ Posted June 10, 2024 Posted June 10, 2024 Maharashtra (farmers) Rajasthan (poor Cm selection) and Up (non jatav sc moving towards sp+ for many reasons). Around 60 seats lost in these three states. Overall other places there were losses (wb and haryana) and gains (odisha). Bjp in maharashtra were unlucky. Onion exports were banned in Khandesh (nashik region) and farmers in viderbha and marathwada were hit by drought in mid April. Model code of conducted meant releif was slow in coming. Nda was on course for 35 in March. Mumbai should have been 3-3 but overall in mmr and konkan bjp performed as expected. Congress won the key rural contests. Bjp+ led in 133 segments and cong+ in 150. So it was much closer than the ls results. Up, nda got nearly as many votes as ls 2014 when bjp won 70. The opposition around them changed. Bsp declined as a force. The non yadav pbc and non jatav sc voters are fickle. Eventually incumbancy results in a shift. Sp+ did spook them on reservation and spooked thakurs (yogi being replaced by a brahmin). But I think this was barely worth a few seats change. Rajasthan was total own goal. I think had modi n shah realised that bjp was in trouble in up would not have removed raje. Bjp would have been 22 to 23 a gain of 8 seats. It's a case of old guard impacting newer choices. ravishingravi and coffee_rules 2
G_B_ Posted June 10, 2024 Posted June 10, 2024 Re maharashtra assembly I think seat sharing is going to be an issue for mva. Ut contested 23 and got 9. Cong strike rate much higher. Cong will look to contest 100+. Bjp+ should let ajit contest on his own. Vote transfer from him questionable and is best suited to being a vote cutter. Bjp+ shinde+ smaller local parties needs to be the equation. Even if bjp+ shinde gets 80 seats in assembly there are enough chunks of ut and pawar sr to do business with. The aim should be to keep Cong under 100 and ensure shinde+bjp+ ut/pawar > 150.
coffee_rules Posted June 10, 2024 Author Posted June 10, 2024 2 hours ago, G_B_ said: Re maharashtra assembly I think seat sharing is going to be an issue for mva. Ut contested 23 and got 9. Cong strike rate much higher. Cong will look to contest 100+. Bjp+ should let ajit contest on his own. Vote transfer from him questionable and is best suited to being a vote cutter. Bjp+ shinde+ smaller local parties needs to be the equation. Even if bjp+ shinde gets 80 seats in assembly there are enough chunks of ut and pawar sr to do business with. The aim should be to keep Cong under 100 and ensure shinde+bjp+ ut/pawar > 150. In hindsight, splitting NCP was totally unnecessary in the larger scheme of things esp after calling out corruption of Ajit Pawar, did it gain any votes? It seemed like a 4d chess move from Sr. pawar. Now, they are talking of taking UT back!
G_B_ Posted June 15, 2024 Posted June 15, 2024 On 6/10/2024 at 12:31 PM, coffee_rules said: In hindsight, splitting NCP was totally unnecessary in the larger scheme of things esp after calling out corruption of Ajit Pawar, did it gain any votes? It seemed like a 4d chess move from Sr. pawar. Now, they are talking of taking UT back! Ajit pawar has inidivudial mlas who are strong. But their gains are for assembly and not lok sabha coffee_rules 1
zubinpepsi Posted June 18, 2024 Posted June 18, 2024 what happened in J&K? i thought locals are happy after Art370 has been removed. i have seen videos how locals are happier now.. im shocked to see BJP din't win anything in J&K
mishra Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 19 hours ago, zubinpepsi said: what happened in J&K? i thought locals are happy after Art370 has been removed. i have seen videos how locals are happier now.. im shocked to see BJP din't win anything in J&K BJP won 2 seats in J&K. it also won 1 in Laddakh. So together 3. In Kashmir, it didnt contest. 3 seats went to opposition out of which 1 went to a Convicted terrorist
Gollum Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 21 hours ago, zubinpepsi said: what happened in J&K? i thought locals are happy after Art370 has been removed. i have seen videos how locals are happier now.. im shocked to see BJP din't win anything in J&K Baramulla voters voted for a terrorist, Engineer Rashid.
rkt.india Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 21 hours ago, zubinpepsi said: what happened in J&K? i thought locals are happy after Art370 has been removed. i have seen videos how locals are happier now.. im shocked to see BJP din't win anything in J&K BJP won 2 seats in Jammu. They didnt field anyone in Kashmir.
rkt.india Posted June 19, 2024 Posted June 19, 2024 2 hours ago, mishra said: BJP won 2 seats in J&K. it also won 1 in Laddakh. So together 3. In Kashmir, it didnt contest. 3 seats went to opposition out of which 1 went to a Convicted terrorist Laddakh is one by Indi Alliance. mishra and Lone Wolf 2
mishra Posted June 20, 2024 Posted June 20, 2024 (edited) Finally, Some NDA has started uttering the truth that Muslims are not voting for BJP/NDA despite being beneficiary of equal or major share of governments various public schemes simply because they see BJP as a pro Hindu. Voting by Muslims was not just to any party but very well planned and organised to defeat BJP and nationalism. IMO, Thorough Investigation needs to be done to ascertain, Who was responsible for organising this. Most likely it was the local religious heads which must have been directed by various state and countrywide Muslim Boards, then they need to be convicted for undermining democracy as they used power vested to them by Government and Islamic religion to organise, coax and pressurise Muslims community. This power must be taken away from these people for sake of Indian Democracy. Edited June 20, 2024 by mishra
coffee_rules Posted July 11, 2024 Author Posted July 11, 2024 (edited) https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india/uttar-pradesh-results-bjp-lists-12-reasons-for-lok-sabha-setback-12763479.html/amp Uttar Pradesh results: BJP lists 12 reasons for Lok Sabha setback Internal survey of BJP. #1 reason -fake news spread by thugbandhan that BJP will stop reservations if they are 4 sau paar. Sad that Chanakya lost to see that coming. Edited July 11, 2024 by coffee_rules
Singh bling Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 17 hours ago, coffee_rules said: https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india/uttar-pradesh-results-bjp-lists-12-reasons-for-lok-sabha-setback-12763479.html/amp Uttar Pradesh results: BJP lists 12 reasons for Lok Sabha setback Internal survey of BJP. #1 reason -fake news spread by thugbandhan that BJP will stop reservations if they are 4 sau paar. Sad that Chanakya lost to see that coming. As usual always blaming opposition. Any dalit or OBC can see on social media which party supporters are dead against reservation calling them bhimta etc.
G_B_ Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 3 hours ago, Singh bling said: As usual always blaming opposition. Any dalit or OBC can see on social media which party supporters are dead against reservation calling them bhimta etc. If this was the case they would not have swept neighbouring mp. Obc and sc does not just stop at the borders of up. Tribal voters outside north east who are beneficiaries of reservation voted for the bjp in large numbers. coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2024 Author Posted July 12, 2024 3 hours ago, Singh bling said: As usual always blaming opposition. Any dalit or OBC can see on social media which party supporters are dead against reservation calling them bhimta etc. Nothing came from the party manifesto or leaders. Purely fake news is how oppposition can beat BJP. Supporters also ask for Hindu Rashtra, doesn’t mean that the party is for it
Singh bling Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Nothing came from the party manifesto or leaders. Purely fake news is how oppposition can beat BJP. Supporters also ask for Hindu Rashtra, doesn’t mean that the party is for it Modi and BJP leaders tried level best to convince people that Congress will take wealth from Hindu's and distribute it to Muslims. Was it mentioned in manifesto of Congress? Anyway BJP leaders openly advocate Hindu rashtra in TV debates. It is just they don't have numbers. Quite if BJP got 370 seats they could had declare it.
Singh bling Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 2 hours ago, G_B_ said: If this was the case they would not have swept neighbouring mp. Obc and sc does not just stop at the borders of up. Tribal voters outside north east who are beneficiaries of reservation voted for the bjp in large numbers. Caste based politics is most prominent in UP ,Bihar. In Bihar BJP despite being in comfortable position had to accept an OBC party CM because they don't think they can win majority. In MP hardly any caste based party ever existed .
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2024 Author Posted July 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Singh bling said: Caste based politics is most prominent in UP ,Bihar. In Bihar BJP despite being in comfortable position had to accept an OBC party CM because they don't think they can win majority. In MP hardly any caste based party ever existed . South is riddled with Caste politics esp TN, AP and Karnataka. Sirf naam jata hain UP-Bihar ko. Every state has its version of caste math in politics.
Muloghonto Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 16 hours ago, Singh bling said: As usual always blaming opposition. Any dalit or OBC can see on social media which party supporters are dead against reservation calling them bhimta etc. party supporters != party, idiot.
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