Trichromatic Posted October 24, 2024 Author Posted October 24, 2024 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Aj I was skeptical about this. Watched it, looks fine. Now I am looking for more content around this from other sources. coffee_rules 1
Mariyam Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 Sikandar ne Porus, se ki thi ladai Jo ki thi ladai, to main kya karun Kaurav ne Pandav, se ke thi hathapai Jo ki thi hathapai, to main kya karun coffee_rules and mishra 2
coffee_rules Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 10 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Aj Just saw who the channel is. Will watch it over the weekend .
coffee_rules Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 2 hours ago, Mariyam said: Sikandar ne Porus, se ki thi ladai Jo ki thi ladai, to main kya karun Kaurav ne Pandav, se ke thi hathapai Jo ki thi hathapai, to main kya karun Historians or History-philes like me will not sing such songs! Mariyam 1
Mariyam Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Historians or History-philes like me will not sing such songs! It’s something I have noticed. We (Indians) unnecessarily get emotionally invested in other peoples’ fights. Cant tell you how cringe it is when Indians (Muslims) tell the people who have lived in Palestine and later moved to the West about how they should feel. The support the Hindu right wing lends to Israel is also very cringe. These two groups have ruined X. It was fun reading about SRK fans vs Sally fans. All this Middle East stuff is an unnecessary fault line of ours that is exposed. Also I never see any Palestinian or Israeli or Egyptian caring to know about our conflicts and their genesis. They only care about Bollywood. I think that is how it should be. vvvslaxman, I6MTW and Vicks57 3
G_B_ Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 @Mariyam Symptom of low self worth. Its the same when youth from Bangladesh and West Bengal wear Argentina t-shirts during football events and celebrate wildly when their "team" wins or go into depression when they lose. Its ok to have a preference. But you have 0 connection. Its the same with the types that support a Europe based football club as if they have skin in the game.
G_B_ Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Coming back to this topic. Truth is unless oil price shoots up nobody should care from an indian pov. Arabs dont seem to care about genocide in sudan. Why should any person in south asia care about issues in west asia. Laaloo 1
coffee_rules Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 On 10/25/2024 at 9:41 AM, G_B_ said: @Mariyam Symptom of low self worth. Its the same when youth from Bangladesh and West Bengal wear Argentina t-shirts during football events and celebrate wildly when their "team" wins or go into depression when they lose. Its ok to have a preference. But you have 0 connection. Its the same with the types that support a Europe based football club as if they have skin in the game. Indians are more connected to the ME crisis since 1948 more due to Congress's policy of granting street veto power to Muslims. They not only didn't recognize Israel , but also kept voting for the UN resolutions against Israel maybe till the 90s. Indians who were oppising it are niffed at the GoI till the late 90s for the FP policy based on the Muslim vote bank. People who have this resentment favor Israel while people who resent the current closeness to Israel are pro-Gaza. The first uprisings in Kashmir valley were inspired by the supposedly resistance of Arabs against Israel. We are more invested in this crisis than MEasterners. The proxy war, the UN resolitions, the terrorist attacks from across the border, is all but similar to Israel for Indians to get connected, I don;t think it is anything to do with self-worth, but merely political and not like following stupid sports of foreign countries. Vicks57 1
Vicks57 Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 On 10/28/2024 at 7:08 PM, coffee_rules said: Indians are more connected to the ME crisis since 1948 more due to Congress's policy of granting street veto power to Muslims. They not only didn't recognize Israel , but also kept voting for the UN resolutions against Israel maybe till the 90s. Indians who were oppising it are niffed at the GoI till the late 90s for the FP policy based on the Muslim vote bank. People who have this resentment favor Israel while people who resent the current closeness to Israel are pro-Gaza. The first uprisings in Kashmir valley were inspired by the supposedly resistance of Arabs against Israel. We are more invested in this crisis than MEasterners. The proxy war, the UN resolitions, the terrorist attacks from across the border, is all but similar to Israel for Indians to get connected, I don;t think it is anything to do with self-worth, but merely political and not like following stupid sports of foreign countries. India has always supported Palestine because they are still being colonised by white men who claim their ancestry on the land based on an imaginary religious book. Israel is a Zionist and apartheid state.
Muloghonto Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Vicks57 said: India has always supported Palestine because they are still being colonised by white men who claim their ancestry on the land based on an imaginary religious book. Israel is a Zionist and apartheid state. Stop peddling arab racist and christian jew-hatred tropes and propaganda. Israel is not a zionist or an apartheid state, its a model state on how to treat traitors and enemies.
vvvslaxman Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 On 10/24/2024 at 9:33 AM, Mariyam said: It’s something I have noticed. We (Indians) unnecessarily get emotionally invested in other peoples’ fights. Cant tell you how cringe it is when Indians (Muslims) tell the people who have lived in Palestine and later moved to the West about how they should feel. The support the Hindu right wing lends to Israel is also very cringe. These two groups have ruined X. It was fun reading about SRK fans vs Sally fans. All this Middle East stuff is an unnecessary fault line of ours that is exposed. Also I never see any Palestinian or Israeli or Egyptian caring to know about our conflicts and their genesis. They only care about Bollywood. I think that is how it should be. Yes. Xenophobia is prevalent among these people. Full of hateful vitriols, utter lies, twisted narratives. These guys just as bad as any other extreme elements Vicks57 1
Muloghonto Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 On 10/24/2024 at 8:33 AM, Mariyam said: It’s something I have noticed. We (Indians) unnecessarily get emotionally invested in other peoples’ fights. Cant tell you how cringe it is when Indians (Muslims) tell the people who have lived in Palestine and later moved to the West about how they should feel. The support the Hindu right wing lends to Israel is also very cringe. These two groups have ruined X. It was fun reading about SRK fans vs Sally fans. All this Middle East stuff is an unnecessary fault line of ours that is exposed. Also I never see any Palestinian or Israeli or Egyptian caring to know about our conflicts and their genesis. They only care about Bollywood. I think that is how it should be. There is nothing 'cringe' about the most basic human axiom at display : enemy of my enemy is my friend. Palestinians and Egyptians DO know of our conflicts from their islamist lens. All they know is evil hindus oppressing muslim kashmiris. Vicks57 and kepler37b 1 1
kepler37b Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 5 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Stop peddling arab racist and christian jew-hatred tropes and propaganda. Israel is not a zionist or an apartheid state, its a model state on how to treat traitors and enemies. This. It is a modern state that has good sense of shatru-bodh. Vicks57 1
Mariyam Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: There is nothing 'cringe' about the most basic human axiom at display : enemy of my enemy is my friend. Palestinians and Egyptians DO know of our conflicts from their islamist lens. All they know is evil hindus oppressing muslim kashmiris. It is cringe. Also you have missed the point. While Egyptians may have a bias because of their 'Islamist lens' as you put it, they aren't all over the internet picking sides during Balakot or the battle of Longewal. Neither does mainstream media give more than a few lines of coverage to India vs Pakistan or India vs China conflicts. A Netflix show on the Israeli Palestinian conflict was trending in the top 3 most watched shows in India in a given window of a few months. An Egyptian or a Kuwaiti would relish romantic/funny Bollywood movies, but would never spend hours reading up or watching shows on Indian conflicts. We are obsessed with this conflict. At an extremely unhealthy level. Vicks57 1
Vicks57 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, kepler37b said: This. It is a modern state that has good sense of shatru-bodh. US has vetoed all resolutions on Israel by member states. So far, they have vetoed 42 times to protect israel from sanctions out of 83 times they have used totally. South Africa, Our ally, has accused Israel of being an "apartheid" state in ICJ. Afterall, SA knows all about being subjugated to apartheid in their own land. https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/south-africa-tells-top-un-court-that-its-accusing-israel-of-apartheid-against-palestinians/article67867987.ece Jewish Rabbi speaking about against Zionism
singhvivek141 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 38 minutes ago, Mariyam said: It is cringe. Also you have missed the point. While Egyptians may have a bias because of their 'Islamist lens' as you put it, they aren't all over the internet picking sides during Balakot or the battle of Longewal. Neither does mainstream media give more than a few lines of coverage to India vs Pakistan or India vs China conflicts. A Netflix show on the Israeli Palestinian conflict was trending in the top 3 most watched shows in India in a given window of a few months. An Egyptian or a Kuwaiti would relish romantic/funny Bollywood movies, but would never spend hours reading up or watching shows on Indian conflicts. We are obsessed with this conflict. At an extremely unhealthy level. Yeah, maybe because we sense what Israel is going through today can happen to us as well. And we're not prepared. There are fringe elements in and around us who has such mentality. They have the support from foreign institutions, we infact have started to see the internal conflicts at certain parts of India. Israel is seen as a hero with the way it has bashed its enemies. We should have done too long back instead of poaching and buttering them hoping they will have a "change of heart". coffee_rules 1
Vicks57 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Stop peddling arab racist and christian jew-hatred tropes and propaganda. Israel is not a zionist or an apartheid state, its a model state on how to treat traitors and enemies. Palestine is the largest open air prison in the world directly under Israeli occupation. Man, go read some history. Edited November 5, 2024 by Vicks57
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