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Pak tour of SA discussion thread | 3 T20I, 3 ODI & 2 Tests | 12 Dec - 3 Jan

Nikhil_cric

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Fakhar seems to be out of form, se we might have to stick with Abdullah. 

 

But bigger problem is Babar Azam's lack of runs - if he can get some runs as well alongaide Saim who has had a decent run in Australia and has started off with a ton against SAF - we can have a huge chance to retain CT2025.

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43 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

True but Saim and Agha played brilliantly. Very good partnership. Played out Rabada well. Pak has the capability to chase anything below 250-260 as it's their game. SA lost wickets to Agha..lol. They are bunch of chokers and idiots.  They left out Bavuma,the only good ODI batsman they have in form.

Agree.  Having said that, I would always be grateful to SA, for ensuring our ICC title win after 11 yrs.  Especially the way they choked while needing 30 from 5 overs, with 6 wickets left. :p:

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9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Saffer wickets like these are not straightforward flat pitches. 

 

Credit to Saim Ayub. Kohli would've failed on this pitch. 

 

Kohli would fail everywhere. Nothing special about SA pitches. Take that retiree anywhere and he'll find a way to get dismissed cheaply.

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1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Kohli would fail everywhere. Nothing special about SA pitches. Take that retiree anywhere and he'll find a way to get dismissed cheaply.

His record in ODIs from 2020 is solid on Indian pitches but on away/neutral pitches he has been strictly average.

 

Some were clamouring for him to stay on till 2027 CWC

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Kind of a low scoring venue, pitch was tough but not that tough. Both teams batted poorly at various stages of the game lost wkts in cluster.

Saim and Agha played old style of chasing. They didnt take any risk until a certain bowler and certain time. But lost wkt in the end to set some panic but were able to cross the line.

 

Pak batters approach in the beginning was v.poor, they were going under 4 till a v.long time even when they were only 1 wkt down. Could have been costly which looked like at one stage as the RR was getting up and there was some panic and 3 wkts fell in short time.

 

Saim has played some decent innings in recent time in all 3 formats 

 

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3 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

His record in ODIs from 2020 is solid on Indian pitches but on away/neutral pitches he has been strictly average.

 

Some were clamouring for him to stay on till 2027 CWC

 

Doesn't deserve to be in any team. He'll cost us another WC if he sticks around. Bumrah may play 2027 WC and deserves to get better support. He can't keep on carrying these useless passengers forever.

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Now that I see the records etc I realize the greatest BLEMISH against Pakistan as a test playing nation is that they have NEVER won an away series against a STRONG team (say top 3 for the period/decade).

Their wins against:

England came in the 80s (6th best) and 90s (7th best)
New Zealand in the 90s (8th best) and 00s (7th best)
Ind in 80s (5th best)
WI in the 2010s (8th best)

SL/Bang have never been a top 4 team ever (SL's peak was in the 00s when they were 5th). Never won in SA/Aus.

Ind on the other hand have a few:

Eng in 71 (1 in the 60s and 70s)
WI in 71 (3 in the 60s and 2 in the 70s)
Eng in 07 (3 in the 00s)
Aus in 18-19* (3 in the 10s but okay Smith-Warner were missing so you can discount this if you want)
Aus in 20-21 (1 in the 20s)

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What happened to Jansen? Doesnt do well with the bat or ball anymore. He was a beast against India. Have we unearthed another India basher? 

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26 minutes ago, Andy said:

What happened to Jansen? Doesnt do well with the bat or ball anymore. He was a beast against India. Have we unearthed another India basher? 

 

He got absolutely smashed when it mattered the most in the WT20 final and was one of the main reasons SA lost on that day. Even Kohli toyed around with him

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