singhvivek141 Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Varun Aaron, the former India quick bowler, has announced his retirement from "representative cricket". Aaron, 35, had retired from red-ball cricket at the end of the 2023-24 Indian domestic season, and has now finished up altogether after his team, Jharkhand, were knocked out of the 50-over Vijay Hazare Trophy, in which he played four games and picked up three wickets at an average of 53.33. more at https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/india-quick-varun-aaron-retires-from-all-representative-cricket-1468426 tweaker, Mosher, Sandz and 2 others 5
singhvivek141 Posted January 10, 2025 Author Posted January 10, 2025 (edited) Had a very short career, once looked at a promising fast bowler, injuries and stress fracture abrupted his career growth. Then with the newly modified action, he could never achieve the accuracy and control which he had. Still remember him for below moments 1. Debut match vs England in 2011, took 3 wkts (all bowled) to Bresnan, Swann and one more. 2. Batting partnership with Umesh for the last wicket against WI. 3. His first 5 or 7 wickets in ODI's, were all bowled. 4. Spell vs Srilanka...Umesh was bowling 143-148k and Aaron was hitting 145-151k...Tharanga, Dilshan & Sangakkara all were hopping and somehow dodging his bullet like deliveries. Never seen fastest duo like that in Indian history. Got injured unfortunately after 4.1 overs. 5. Delivery to Moeen Ali 6. Bouncer to Broad...he will never forget it 7. His verbal spat with Warner...the "come on saga". Edited January 10, 2025 by singhvivek141 express bowling, nevada, vishalvirsingh and 3 others 1 5
figo6762 Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 Meanwhile We have Roko… stuck to their seats nitinbwj 1
nevada Posted January 10, 2025 Posted January 10, 2025 5 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Had a very short career, once looked at a promising fast bowler, injuries and stress fracture abrupted his career growth. Then with the newly modified action, he could never achieve the accuracy and control which he had. Still remember him for below moments 1. Debut match vs England in 2011, took 3 wkts (all bowled) to Bresnan, Swann and one more. 2. Batting partnership with Umesh for the last wicket against WI. 3. His first 5 or 7 wickets in ODI's, were all bowled. 4. Spell vs Srilanka...Umesh was bowling 143-148k and Aaron was hitting 145-151k...Tharanga, Dilshan & Sangakkara all were hopping and somehow dodging his bullet like deliveries. Never seen fastest duo like that in Indian history. Got injured unfortunately after 4.1 overs. 5. Delivery to Moeen Ali 6. Bouncer to Broad...he will never forget it 7. His verbal spat with Warner...the "come on saga". I was so excited at the prospect of our own speed twins Umesh and Varun wreaking havoc on the opposition. It's a shame Varun's career for India was too brief. express bowling, singhvivek141 and rollingstoned 2 1
Lord Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 one of the guys who didn't get backed even in Virat=Shastri era. express bowling 1
jf1gp_1 Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 22 minutes ago, Lord said: one of the guys who didn't get backed even in Virat=Shastri era. Yup. He was injury prone and he had to be treated with care. Ofcourse he was wayward, that's the case with all quick bowlers. Saini has been backed even today maybe a bit of backing for Varun would have produced different results. I just hope Mayank and Umran are taken care off else few years from now we will be writing the same about these two.
singhvivek141 Posted January 11, 2025 Author Posted January 11, 2025 11 hours ago, Lord said: one of the guys who didn't get backed even in Virat=Shastri era. His decline in form coincided with rise of Shami & Bhuvi. Aaron lost his accuracy post change in action after the 2 stress fractures.
Lord Posted January 11, 2025 Posted January 11, 2025 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: His decline in form coincided with rise of Shami & Bhuvi. Aaron lost his accuracy post change in action after the 2 stress fractures. rise of Bhuvi?
singhvivek141 Posted January 11, 2025 Author Posted January 11, 2025 23 minutes ago, Lord said: rise of Bhuvi? Bhuvi was talk of the town from his debut till England tour of 2014. His performance nosedived from third test onwards, never to rise back again. tapandrun 1
vishalvirsingh Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 On 1/10/2025 at 3:42 PM, singhvivek141 said: Had a very short career, once looked at a promising fast bowler, injuries and stress fracture abrupted his career growth. Then with the newly modified action, he could never achieve the accuracy and control which he had. Still remember him for below moments 1. Debut match vs England in 2011, took 3 wkts (all bowled) to Bresnan, Swann and one more. 2. Batting partnership with Umesh for the last wicket against WI. 3. His first 5 or 7 wickets in ODI's, were all bowled. 4. Spell vs Srilanka...Umesh was bowling 143-148k and Aaron was hitting 145-151k...Tharanga, Dilshan & Sangakkara all were hopping and somehow dodging his bullet like deliveries. Never seen fastest duo like that in Indian history. Got injured unfortunately after 4.1 overs. 5. Delivery to Moeen Ali 6. Bouncer to Broad...he will never forget it 7. His verbal spat with Warner...the "come on saga". can't believe MS DHONI messed with such a TALENT. he did not play him in an entire series in england (am i correct) and he played all trundlers. thats why i appreciate MAYANK , agarkar and GG at least they are picking Mayank yadav when he is available. MSD was getting hit on his hands as he was a keeper. i have kept myself and against fast bowlers one has to pick up the ball bringing your hands back where as MSD 's keeping style is such that he did not bring his hands back so as soon as a pacer comes , he starts getting hit. you can note this he did not pick fast bowlers ever , he had keeping issues against fast bowlers. there was a time when UMESH was bowling 145k and was accurate ( except for that leg ball once a over) and he was getting dropped after every match. MSD was the reason to ensure that Varun Aroon could not flourish in international cricket. agressive batsman like abhishek /sehwag /jaiswal need a long rope similarly fast bowlers need long ropes , have some patience with them , once they master their pace and line n length they will win you matches OR else play Avesh/Mukesh/akashdeep and enjoy. akash was bowling 136 to 145k in india and getting wickets on PATTA's and had some back issue and he was bowling 130 to 140k in spicy Australian tracks and his LINE and length was as immaculate as possible- perfection in line and length but he hardly had any wickets in the series. SENA batsman can handle under 140K bowling and avoid getting OUT even if it is perfect Line and Length. read this BCCI official on Akash Deep's Test career: 'If he's in and out ... ' | Cricket News - Times of India he bowled as accurate as Bhuvi did and still got 5 wickets in 2 test matches on SPICY wickets. singhvivek141 and tapandrun 2
vishalvirsingh Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 On 1/10/2025 at 3:42 PM, singhvivek141 said: Had a very short career, once looked at a promising fast bowler, injuries and stress fracture abrupted his career growth. Then with the newly modified action, he could never achieve the accuracy and control which he had. Still remember him for below moments 1. Debut match vs England in 2011, took 3 wkts (all bowled) to Bresnan, Swann and one more. 2. Batting partnership with Umesh for the last wicket against WI. 3. His first 5 or 7 wickets in ODI's, were all bowled. 4. Spell vs Srilanka...Umesh was bowling 143-148k and Aaron was hitting 145-151k...Tharanga, Dilshan & Sangakkara all were hopping and somehow dodging his bullet like deliveries. Never seen fastest duo like that in Indian history. Got injured unfortunately after 4.1 overs. 5. Delivery to Moeen Ali 6. Bouncer to Broad...he will never forget it 7. His verbal spat with Warner...the "come on saga". add the ball which Clean BOWLED Warner. he did bowl express in few IPL matches and it was clear he should have played for INDIA much more. he and Umesh , i felt varun was a shade faster than Umesh and umesh had a little career but Varun did not singhvivek141 1
singhvivek141 Posted January 12, 2025 Author Posted January 12, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: add the ball which Clean BOWLED Warner. he did bowl express in few IPL matches and it was clear he should have played for INDIA much more. he and Umesh , i felt varun was a shade faster than Umesh and umesh had a little career but Varun did not Aaron was indeed faster than Umesh, skillset wise though Umesh was better. Aaron was similar to Saini, didnt get much seam or swing but he did had better control and accuracy when new on the scene. Umesh lacked control but he had outswing and ability to reverse the old ball. Plus his habit to bowl jaffa out of nowhere. What made key difference was Umesh remained superfit, hence no one tinkered with his action. NCA couch potatoes choose Aaron as their lab rat and decided to commit all the experiment on him and in process ruined his control. Edited January 12, 2025 by singhvivek141
singhvivek141 Posted January 12, 2025 Author Posted January 12, 2025 22 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: can't believe MS DHONI messed with such a TALENT. he did not play him in an entire series in england (am i correct) and he played all trundlers. thats why i appreciate MAYANK , agarkar and GG at least they are picking Mayank yadav when he is available. MSD was getting hit on his hands as he was a keeper. i have kept myself and against fast bowlers one has to pick up the ball bringing your hands back where as MSD 's keeping style is such that he did not bring his hands back so as soon as a pacer comes , he starts getting hit. you can note this he did not pick fast bowlers ever , he had keeping issues against fast bowlers. there was a time when UMESH was bowling 145k and was accurate ( except for that leg ball once a over) and he was getting dropped after every match. MSD was the reason to ensure that Varun Aroon could not flourish in international cricket. agressive batsman like abhishek /sehwag /jaiswal need a long rope similarly fast bowlers need long ropes , have some patience with them , once they master their pace and line n length they will win you matches OR else play Avesh/Mukesh/akashdeep and enjoy. akash was bowling 136 to 145k in india and getting wickets on PATTA's and had some back issue and he was bowling 130 to 140k in spicy Australian tracks and his LINE and length was as immaculate as possible- perfection in line and length but he hardly had any wickets in the series. SENA batsman can handle under 140K bowling and avoid getting OUT even if it is perfect Line and Length. read this BCCI official on Akash Deep's Test career: 'If he's in and out ... ' | Cricket News - Times of India he bowled as accurate as Bhuvi did and still got 5 wickets in 2 test matches on SPICY wickets. We are the worst enemy of fast bowlers. The sole criteria is if you're new, you shouldn't get injured and also perform immediately from the first game itself. In comparison, batters who are sucking from past 5-6 years are given free ride coz they are batters. A pure batter averaging in 30's is as bad as a pure bowler averaging in 40's....we don't have the latter playing tests but the former are the apple of the eyes.
nitinbwj Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 Pandya is smart and he understood the assignment well. He knows he can bowl and bat and be very good at it BUT he chose not to to prolong his career especially white ball. Had he played regularly in Test Matches would have been finished by now. Our stupid system doesn't support allrounders may be it's the training or genetics.
Lord Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 27 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: Pandya is smart and he understood the assignment well. He knows he can bowl and bat and be very good at it BUT he chose not to to prolong his career especially white ball. Had he played regularly in Test Matches would have been finished by now. Our stupid system doesn't support allrounders may be it's the training or genetics. thats a very selfish approach from Pandu though
nitinbwj Posted January 12, 2025 Posted January 12, 2025 7 hours ago, Lord said: thats a very selfish approach from Pandu though Nothing that we can do. No one has the talent Pandoo has atm in our structure. Lord 1
tapandrun Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 Pandaya know there is no1 like him in the system right now which may give him some leeway. But it equally true that he is injury prone too, if he pushes hard he can easily get injured. So he opted for white-ball cricket. Rt now all fast bowling allrounder either bowls v.few over or not at all, Marsh does not bowl much, Stokes hardly bowls or have opted out from t20s which is not his bst format.
tapandrun Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 (edited) Aaron was a bit quicker than umesh but umesh remained fit. Because of the lack of understanding about fast bowling in ind cricketing system he bowled with injured back and that caused him his entire career. Initially he was accurate for the face he was bowling at, but later he used to drift the ball into the batters pads alot. As mentioned by other posters he was not supported by Dhoni, who liked line and length bowler against whome he does not have dive around much and the pace that does not hurt his fingers much. Edited January 13, 2025 by tapandrun singhvivek141 1
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