rollingstoned Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 50 minutes ago, lemsip said: Gambhir has a toxic personality and ends up picking a fight in any environment he spends time in. Nothing has changed on that front. To see a manager throw young players under the bus as he did with Pant and Sarfaraz is an instant sacking offence as far as I am concerned. On top of this toxic persona, he had no coaching credentials whatsoever. If he had been successful with the Indian team it would have had to involve a fluke. As it stands, it seems a significant step backwards from Dravid. Guy will stand by his team no matter what which can be both a +ve and a -ve. He picked a fight with Kohli on the field to protect Naveen ul haq after an ipl match. raki05 1
Number Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 3 hours ago, New guy said: And gambhir gets blamed when he gets over ruled every time. He should resign till Rohit and his pet Agarkar are there. Agarkar+Rohit are always going to be 2 votes vs 1 Gambhir. raki05, Gollum and New guy 1 2
raki05 Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 (edited) Hypocrite Agarkar is teaming up with fatboy to screw us further. Aggy used yo talk big before becoming selectors and when chokli used to be captain . And now doing same politics by joining up with fat boy which shastri+chokli used to do. Whatever may it sounds like Bandya would have been better choice for VC than this politician Gill, Gill is another politician who for his self glory clip the wing of his peers. Now if we loose CT which we will hope lodu Gavaskar dont put blame on coaching staff when selection itself is shite and done by mumbai lobby.. Edited January 19, 2025 by raki05 rollingstoned, Gollum and Norman 3
raki05 Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 (edited) Gavashkar is saying its best team and should win CT. Now once we will loose he witll not criticise the failed players rather coaching staffs like bgt but somehow if we luckily win it he will give all credit to selector Aggy and captain Fatty, such a chameleon this old man is. Edited January 19, 2025 by raki05 rollingstoned, Adamant, singhvivek141 and 1 other 1 3
goose Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 shubman gill gets the vice captaincy for his hair raki05 1
Chaos Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 17 minutes ago, Lord said: lord i reserved a fish expedition trip for u and nri. Tell me how he fishes!
Gollum Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 As someone on SM said, Samson will be dropped from T20Is and picked for ODIs as we near the 2026 T20 WC. Lord, Master_better, raki05 and 2 others 5
Gollum Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 6 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Another news is that Gauti did not want Gill to be Vice captain. Agarkar and Rohit insisted on Gill being VC Idea seems to be to keep Jaiswal out. For some reason the southpaw with a humble origin story scares these big names. raki05 and singhvivek141 1 1
goose Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 gill is being groomed by his hairdresser to be next captain of India raki05 1
singhvivek141 Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 3 hours ago, raki05 said: Gavashkar is saying its best team and should win CT. Now once we will loose he witll not criticise the failed players rather coaching staffs like bgt but somehow if we luckily win it he will give all credit to selector Aggy and captain Fatty, such a chameleon this old man is. Has Gavaskar ever criticized team selection. He always seems happy with the team selected. So much experience & legacy, yet can't even raise voice and speak truth. raki05 1
singhvivek141 Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Idea seems to be to keep Jaiswal out. For some reason the southpaw with a humble origin story scares these big names. 40 minutes ago, goose said: gill is being groomed by his hairdresser to be next captain of India We are unfortunate that BCCI runs the Indian Cricket on superstars and not on team's performance. Gill is a talented batter, but there is no doubt Jaiswal is leagues above him at the moment. Plus Gill's ability to captain his team is questionable. Seems BCCI has earmarked Gill as the next superstar of Indian Cricket and are doing every bit possible to ensure he gets all the media attention and focus, and they won't let anyone take attention from him until project Gill fails badly (BCCI is always a reactive board and never proactive). raki05 and Norman 1 1
Ultimate_Game Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 7 hours ago, New guy said: And gambhir gets blamed when he gets over ruled every time. Yup. He wanted Harshit earlier but was overruled. He wanted Samson and denied again. Didn't want Gill as VC but Agarkar-Rohit duo thought otherwise. Don't think Gambhir wants over the hill has beens like Rohit and Kohli as well but can't do anything. Unless the selection process is revamped, there's not much a coach can do. Don't think Rohit should be able to overrule a coach else what's the point of the coach? Maybe a captain can have a say in 1 or at max 2 decisions but for the captain to overrule coach for every selection and decision is idiotic. Agarkar is Rohit's stooge and will do what Rohit asks him to do so that effectively means Gambhir has no say in the selection process. And some folks here expect Gambhir to drop likes of Rohit and Kohli New guy and raki05 1 1
Lord Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 18 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Yup. He wanted Harshit earlier but was overruled. He wanted Samson and denied again. Didn't want Gill as VC but Agarkar-Rohit duo thought otherwise. Don't think Gambhir wants over the hill has beens like Rohit and Kohli as well but can't do anything. Unless the selection process is revamped, there's not much a coach can do. Don't think Rohit should be able to overrule a coach else what's the point of the coach? Maybe a captain can have a say in 1 or at max 2 decisions but for the captain to overrule coach for every selection and decision is idiotic. Agarkar is Rohit's stooge and will do what Rohit asks him to do so that effectively means Gambhir has no say in the selection process. And some folks here expect Gambhir to drop likes of Rohit and Kohli so Gambhir is just there to collect paychecks?
Adamant Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 I know Iyer has his problems against quality pace attacks on difficult pitches but he might do well in UAE, he is not an unworthy selection, did better than Gill in 2023 wc.
vvvslaxman Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 I have a theory about samson's exclusion. Samson recently did well as opener in ODIs. Essentially a potential threat for Rohit as opener. Kishan lost his contract. Never backed in this ODI format. Another threat for Rohit's spot. But Pant is not a threat. If Pant were an opener he probably would have been dropped. raki05 1
Ultimate_Game Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 1 minute ago, Lord said: so Gambhir is just there to collect paychecks? If the coach-captain duo keep on overruling the coach, every coach will be there to simply collect a paycheck. Coach should be in charge off the field decisions, and the captain should have his say on the field. But currently that's not the case. Rohit has absolute power and no coach can do anything. Looks like BCCI wants a "yes man" instead of a coach. New guy and raki05 2
Lord Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 14 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: If the coach-captain duo keep on overruling the coach, every coach will be there to simply collect a paycheck. Coach should be in charge off the field decisions, and the captain should have his say on the field. But currently that's not the case. Rohit has absolute power and no coach can do anything. Looks like BCCI wants a "yes man" instead of a coach. So why doesn't Gambhir resign and tell all this openly? If he's ready to be a yes man for the money he's equally responsible. He's not some damsel in distress. lemsip 1
lemsip Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 33 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Yup. He wanted Harshit earlier but was overruled. He wanted Samson and denied again. Didn't want Gill as VC but Agarkar-Rohit duo thought otherwise. Don't think Gambhir wants over the hill has beens like Rohit and Kohli as well but can't do anything. Unless the selection process is revamped, there's not much a coach can do. Don't think Rohit should be able to overrule a coach else what's the point of the coach? Maybe a captain can have a say in 1 or at max 2 decisions but for the captain to overrule coach for every selection and decision is idiotic. Agarkar is Rohit's stooge and will do what Rohit asks him to do so that effectively means Gambhir has no say in the selection process. And some folks here expect Gambhir to drop likes of Rohit and Kohli The coach's role is not to demand certain players so there is no question of him being overruled. His role is to manage the team he is given and also manage the staff of coaches to produce performances. Team selection is the selector's job and the selecting the playing XI is the captain's responsibility. If that were not the case, every coach would have an easy get out..blame any lack of performance on not getting specific players and there would be no mechanism to hold them accountable. A good coach should be able to produce performances out of any team he is provided from the talent pool available in India. Under Gambhir, the performance has taken a sudden and alarming dip and you'd have to put your head in the sand to pretend the reason is simply because XYZ player was not provided when the new coach asked for him.
tapandrun Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 (edited) 25 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I have a theory about samson's exclusion. Samson recently did well as opener in ODIs. Essentially a potential threat for Rohit as opener. Kishan lost his contract. Never backed in this ODI format. Another threat for Rohit's spot. But Pant is not a threat. If Pant were an opener he probably would have been dropped. Only genuine challenge to rohit's spot is jaiswal, thats the reason he did get his debut till now. If he plays and gets some runs will directly challenge rohit's spot. jaiswal right now does nt challenge gill's spot because bcci has been looking at gill as all format captain. the thing that derailed it is abhishek's batting style and his ability to contribute with the bat and ball. and ppl have started noticing that gill is no good in test as well. Assuming sky will be t20i captain till this wc cycle and there are chances that he can even lose that too. During Zim tour was hearing(could be roumors) that they can ask abhishek to play in lower order for his hitting ability and gill to open. The reason for sanju's exclusion from odi is v.simple selectors and bcci is trying to spread out players important to various ipl teams into various formats. Sanju plays t20is, Pant plays test and odi KL plays odis. Its done so that marquee players of various franchises keeps some sort of place in Ind intnl. side. The only guy who seems to be at wrong side of it is pandaya. Edited January 19, 2025 by tapandrun
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