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Gollum Grand Master

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19 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

 

Iranians best wrestlers also.

Do well in freestyle as well as greco. And always rich medal hauls despite no participation from their women. In quite a few categories they have GOAT wrestlers. Big part of their culture.

 

Russia, USA, Japan, Iran are the Big 4 in this sport IMO. Then only you have Cuba, Sweden, Turkey.......

kepler37b Grand Master

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7 hours ago, Gollum said:

I have interacted with many Iranian researchers/scientists based in US and Europe. High achievers, and overrepresented in STEM, especially their women. Turkish origin folks also but Iranians more common. Sky is the limit for what they can achieve as a nation with better leadership. 

What you see are the elite human resources. They cannot be equated to rest of Jantaa.

 

It is like seeing the accomplished NRI's and concluding that entire India is brimming with above 110 IQ talent. 

ravishingravi Grand Master

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27 minutes ago, SinNombre said:

So outside of isf members' speculation, what are you all seeing in terms of potential Iranian response. 

 

Hitting US allies. Don't anticipate a direct attack. 

coffee_rules Grand Master

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I am not sold on siding with Israel on this war. Iran having close to acquiring a nuclear weapon would have kept Israel and hence USA in check  and maintain a status quo. Now, It is Deep State all over the world. They can force a narrative on any country esp India vis-a-vis Kashmir, force insurgents and hurt India grow further

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Gollum Grand Master

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19 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

I am not sold on siding with Israel on this war. Iran having close to acquiring a nuclear weapon would have kept Israel and hence USA in check  and maintain a status quo. Now, It is Deep State all over the world. They can force a narrative on any country esp India vis-a-vis Kashmir, force insurgents and hurt India grow further

Maqbool dialogue by Om Puri and Naseer, the two cops

 

शक्ति का संतुलन बहुत जरूरी है संसार में

आग के लिए पानी का डर बने रहना चाहिए

crictime Mentor

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10 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Glad that we have our nuclear weapons and delivery systems in place already.

 

:isalute:

Thanks to both Congress and BJP that India did Pokhran 2, the second nuclear test in 1998. The first was done in 1974. Also India took the right move by not being part of Nonproliferatiom treat (NPT) which was formed in 1970 by other nations and NSG few years later. Although later US gave India a waiver in some aspect of NSG but still India is not in the top NSG member nations. We also saw prior to operation Sindhoor when India destroyed Pakistans bases and terrorist camps deep inside Pakistan,  the all-party meeting put asides their political divide atleast during that crucial month which enabled the mission Sindhoor to be a success.

 

Initially the second test details, somewhere during 1995 were leaked due to American spy satellites and as a result of international pressure the nuclear tests did not go through.

 

 

Then when American spy satellites and other intelligence agencies could not get a clue, the second test was carried out in 1998 when Atal Ji came to power for second time.  Great Abdul Kalam, Chidambaram and Dr. Anil Kakodkar used dummy names. Dr. Kalam stayed in Jaisalmer for two months under dummy name to maintain utmost secrecy but still being actively involved in the tests. Atomic bombs made at BARC in Mumbai were transported to Jaisalmer as apples. So the information was secret during logistics part of the tests as well. No intelligence agencies or spy satellites could get a clue and the Pokhran 2 was finally done with grand success. 

 

Even last decade many Pakistani spies were caught while trying to  get the soil at test site. US never wants any other nation to have nukes. They delayed Indias nuclear trst, but thankfully not as long as they have delayed Iran tests with help of Mossad.

 

MOSSAD has 7000 people working for it. Due to extraordinary skills and die hard passion to defend Israel from surrounding hostile nations, their spies are one of the best. As such they are in of great use for US and other nations who have intelligence sharing partnerships. Helps US have a complete tap on what happens in middle east. Israel in later part of 20th century had spoiled the Irans nuclear program and killed their top scientists that time and manged to delay Irans goals. This time too they seem to have gathered information that Iran is now close again and shared information with US and attacked Iran again. Israel will be most worried once Iran has nuclear bomb as Iran us alligned with Houthis and Palestine. US  too won't like if Iran who is now aligned with Russia, China axis has nukes. Every card will be played until Iran comes back to negotiation table and agrees to a nuclear treaty.

 

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velu Grand Master

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

I am not sold on siding with Israel on this war. Iran having close to acquiring a nuclear weapon would have kept Israel and hence USA in check  and maintain a status quo. Now, It is Deep State all over the world. They can force a narrative on any country esp India vis-a-vis Kashmir, force insurgents and hurt India grow further

 

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kepler37b Grand Master

kepler37b

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Why would US attack India? :dontknow:. 

 

There is no hate towards uncle Sam among the aam jantaa. Many of their elites have economic interests here.  And our elites have interests in amreeka. 

 

Also, there is lot of trade.

 

 

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kepler37b Grand Master

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Ummah ko zahreela chumma de diya Bakis

Pakistani are a condom for United States. They are a cover for them to mess with the islamic world.

 

The in bred fools think that as achievement.

kepler37b Grand Master

kepler37b

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36 minutes ago, velu said:

 

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This guy literally fed his uncle to dogs and is running a terror state. He has armed pakistan and pakistan has helped them in their nuclear ambitions. 

 

A very wrong example to consider.

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BacktoCricaddict Grand Master

BacktoCricaddict

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28 minutes ago, Lord said:

India is with Iran 

 

 

What a complex world

 

Iraq is US enemy. Iran is Iraq enemy. But Iran is US enemy. Israel is US friend. Pak is US friend. Pak is Israel enemy. India is Israel friend. India is Russia friend. India is Iran friend. Iran is Russia friend. Iran is Israel enemy. 

randomGuy Grand Master

randomGuy

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Many people are saying Iran will soon become nuclear power officially 

 

After US strike, Iran turns to Russia; Medvedev hints at nuclear warhead support: ‘Number of countries are ready to supply Iran'

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/after-us-strike-iran-turns-to-russia-medvedev-hints-at-nuclear-warhead-support-number-of-countries-are-ready-to-supply-iran/articleshow/122006429.cms

 

 

This case maybe rules out regime change

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